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Old 02-01-2009, 01:08 AM    (permalink
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Anyways, with all the Hall of Fame stuff going on I was wondering a few things. Do the Packers have any HOF'ers? I mean C. Woodson as revived his career and has pretty solid stats, but I don't see anyone else who could even be in discussion right now.

As far as the Packer's Hall of Fame, Mr. Driver is a lock..anyone else?
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but if your friend is better then you at this point of your career and has worked harder then you have then yes you should be fired.
But you would still be pissed. At least I would. Favre is a competitor, you can't fault him for this. If you do, you obviously haven't competed at a high level before.
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But you would still be pissed. At least I would. Favre is a competitor, you can't fault him for this. If you do, you obviously haven't competed at a high level before.
Favre has to learn that overtime you have to be mature and move on. Rodgers was a back up for 3 years, you didn't see him acting that way. You think Rodgers enjoyed not playing?

I would have been pissed but I would have moved on. And yes I have competed at a high level before and worked my *** off, that is how I won the starting job for my High School football team. I showed the coaches I was the better player.
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Jennings is on pace, but I would have said the same thing about Ahman Green a few years back. No one on the Packers has a shot, as of now, to make the HOF. The only ones who I can possibly see making the HOF are Jennings, and Barnett. I very highly doubt either of them make it. But they are the only ones near the top of their position right now.
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Favre has to learn that overtime you have to be mature and move on. Rodgers was a back up for 3 years, you didn't see him acting that way. You think Rodgers enjoyed not playing?

I would have been pissed but I would have moved on. And yes I have competed at a high level before and worked my *** off, that is how I won the starting job for my High School football team. I showed the coaches I was the better player.
I would have taken Favre over Rodgers this year. High school is not a high level, sorry, but thats the truth. But that is besides the point. The people with the cut throat mentality are the ones who play beyond high school, the ones that would rather die than lose make the pros(plus they are amazing athletes.) Favre is a competitor, if he wasn't he wouldnt have been in the league for so long(at all really.) Brett Favre is an NFL legend, he is a top 5 QB of all time, he gave the Packers a better chance to win this year than Rodgers did. I think the entire situation was a complete clusterfuck. Favre handled it poorly, but so did TT. I do not fault Favre for not talking to Rodgers, not in the slightest. If I was in the same position I would be pissed off too. I would imagine Favre feels like Rodgers stabbed him in the back.
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I would have taken Favre over Rodgers this year. High school is not a high level, sorry, but thats the truth. But that is besides the point. The people with the cut throat mentality are the ones who play beyond high school, the ones that would rather die than lose make the pros(plus they are amazing athletes.) Favre is a competitor, if he wasn't he wouldnt have been in the league for so long(at all really.) Brett Favre is an NFL legend, he is a top 5 QB of all time, he gave the Packers a better chance to win this year than Rodgers did. I think the entire situation was a complete clusterfuck. Favre handled it poorly, but so did TT. I do not fault Favre for not talking to Rodgers, not in the slightest. If I was in the same position I would be pissed off too. I would imagine Favre feels like Rodgers stabbed him in the back.
What did Rodgers do wrong? is it wrong of him to listen to the coaches and GM when they say he is the starting qb of the Packers...all he did was do his job, if Favre is mad at anyone it should be TT and MM. They are the ones who didn't want Favre back as the Packers QB, not Rodgers. Rodgers got his chance to be the Packers qb and ran with it.
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I thought we were finished with all the finger pointing from this past off-season's ordeal. It was handled poorly by both parties but it's time to move on.
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What did Rodgers do wrong? is it wrong of him to listen to the coaches and GM when they say he is the starting qb of the Packers...all he did was do his job, if Favre is mad at anyone it should be TT and MM. They are the ones who didn't want Favre back as the Packers QB, not Rodgers. Rodgers got his chance to be the Packers qb and ran with it.
Rodgers did nothing wrong, I'm sure Favre is mad at TT and MM also. But seriously think about it, if you got fired and a friend of yours got the job you used to have, would you really be ok with it? I know for damn sure I wouldn't be I would be pissed at my "friend" for betraying me. That is what Favre sees Rodgers having done. Personally, I don't blame him. Rodgers took his place, I would be pissed off too.
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Rodgers did nothing wrong, I'm sure Favre is mad at TT and MM also. But seriously think about it, if you got fired and a friend of yours got the job you used to have, would you really be ok with it? I know for damn sure I wouldn't be I would be pissed at my "friend" for betraying me. That is what Favre sees Rodgers having done. Personally, I don't blame him. Rodgers took his place, I would be pissed off too.
Would you consider Rodgers and Favre true friends? I mean yeah they played on the same team for 3 years but Rodgers said the relationship got better as the years went on, that means they weren't such great friends.

I understand where your coming from but Favre should know this best, its a business, then everything else last. It was a disaster all together and I for one am fed up with this.
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Rodgers did nothing wrong, I'm sure Favre is mad at TT and MM also. But seriously think about it, if you got fired and a friend of yours got the job you used to have, would you really be ok with it? I know for damn sure I wouldn't be I would be pissed at my "friend" for betraying me. That is what Favre sees Rodgers having done. Personally, I don't blame him. Rodgers took his place, I would be pissed off too.
If this "friend" happened to just walk into my job then yeah, I probably would be pissed. If I had been "mentoring" this "friend" over the past 3 years ready for him to eventually take my place, would I pissed? Doubtful.

Favre knew that what happened last off-season was going to happen sooner or later, no matter how much he wants to carry on playing. Favre knew this franchise had a decision to make regarding it's future, I personally feel it was the correct one and we have a QB who I am truly happy to have here, we can build our team around him, if we had kept Favre we would have had the EXACT same problems this off-season to last, we wouldn't have won the superbowl, so why bother delaying it, and start re-building sooner rather than later and delaying the inevitable?

Favre knew it was going to happen, it was a messy situation but I fail to see how Rodgers can be at fault for ANY of what happened. Favre can be pissed at TT/MM sure, but Rodgers, why?

Anyway, I'm fed up with the whole Favre debate. That's my 2 cents worth.

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AZ 40 seconds away from a SB win. Given that team and their weaknesses, I think with Capers on board and some growth on our defense, we should be competing for the Norris Division title and maybe more. Go Pack!
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Interesting, Doug Pederson was just hired by the Eagles to be some sort of offensive coach. Talk about a career backup, what a life.
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Should be a good fit. His second time around in Green Bay he kind of seemed like an extra coach. I've always liked Doug Pederson. We would have been in big trouble if he was ever needed, but he was nice to have as a back up QB. Perfect guy to be behind Favre.
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Wasn't he hired to be a QB coach? He should already be a seasoned vet in that department.
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Yeah I am pretty sure that is it.. But haha your right, he's been a coach for the past however many years he's been in the NFL. Maybe not totally, but close.
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give me draft picks and a young guy rather then trading him for Peppers. We still wouldn't know how well he would do in a 34.

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doesn't seem likely now.
I don't think it was ever likely, but that article does not guarantee he would be moved.
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Ugh, please don't post anything thing from that site here.

It's a terrible site with awful "news" stories and a crappy forum filled with a bunch of casual fans and stupid posters. It also fits under the rival site category which is against the rules, although there's enough reason to not post from there even if it didn't break the rules.

That is a post written by some guy on their forum. He's not even a journalist and has zero credibility. He's not a very informed or intelligent fan at that either. News that Kampman would be a key part of our defense next year came out weeks ago and he's saying that he'll likely be traded. The post overall was crap too. The majority of posters in this thread could and do post better stuff than that.
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I know its pretty pointless now as we've changed defensive schemes but anyone wanna give me some feedback on my efforts in the expansion team forum mock. It was my first go at one of these.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...3&postcount=16

Couple of notes: Poppinga was taken in the expansion draft, Ruvell Martin was traded to the Giants. Salary cap money was spent on extensions to Jennings and Collins - with relatively large cap figures in the first year.
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what up guys"? im new to the forum but not to any of the recent news. i want to talk draft picks all the way through the first day. We need OLB,NT,SS,TE,OT,RB. FA'S peppers, haynsworth, suggs, larry johnson. draft freaks... raji, orakpo, english, mauluga, ian johnson, micheal robinson,.... im down with capers, greene(wish he was playing),trogvoc, etc. slocum it great, i actually sat down and talked with him his very first night in Geebs at margaritas in 06. nice guy and should be a decent sp. teams coach.
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Michael Robinson? I agree with your needs but not RB or TE.
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we need a chris johnson.... someone who can run the edges, screens, west coast routes, and return job.
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