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Old 07-26-2009, 08:54 PM    (permalink
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I'm not going to watch a 10 minute video, but there is no debate. It's Rodgers by a mile.
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We were better off with Rodgers last season
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It's a ten min video but its well worth it. Bring up some great points, a few that I haven't sen mentioned.
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It's a ten min video but its well worth it. Bring up some great points, a few that I haven't sen mentioned.
I don't feel the need to hear any points when I already know the answer.
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This guy does a great job here explaing the whole Favre vs Rodgers debate.
Very good video. I know a lot of fans who honestly believe that losing Favre's "magic" was the reason we did so much worse.
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I'm thinking about making the drive to check it out for a couple days. I've went the last couple years and loved it
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I'm thinking about making the drive to check it out for a couple days. I've went the last couple years and loved it
Now that I don't live super far away from Green Bay, I may just do that this year. Thanks for the great idea.
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I'm going to Vikings training camp... Before someone rips on me for doing so, I may be going to heckle Favre and the Vikings in general.

I'd go to Packers camp if it wasn't a 10 hour drive from where I currently live and I weren't going to the east coast for the rest of the summer.

This means I'm going to miss most of training camp and preseason games. Not cool.
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I'm going to Vikings training camp... Before someone rips on me for doing so, I may be going to heckle Favre and the Vikings in general.

I'd go to Packers camp if it wasn't a 10 hour drive from where I currently live and I weren't going to the east coast for the rest of the summer.

This means I'm going to miss most of training camp and preseason games. Not cool.
I'm actually closer to Vikes camp in Mankato too, but i just can justify making that drive to be around a bunch of fans dressed in the color purple :D
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Aaron Rodgers is a stud in the making. Im a huge fan.

Its not even debatable. Going with Rodgers last year was absolutely the right call.
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And a quick fantasy question.

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He's a major sleeper.
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Im thinking about taking a lot of risks this year. "Reaching" for guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Donnie Avery, Derrick Ward, etc.
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I might go for a few days. I'm in the process of trying to obtain some in the fences passes like I managed to get a few years ago. That was awesome because you're right next to the practice field and players are walking right passed you.
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And a quick fantasy question.

Thoughts on Ryan Grant? I have him as a potential sleeper pick. Yes or no?
I think he'll definetly be better than last year but I don't think he'll get more than 10 TDs.
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hmmm. any reason in particular why youre predicting only 10 TDs?
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hmmm. any reason in particular why youre predicting only 10 TDs?
Well they still plan of using mostly zone blocking schemes again this year but they do want to run more power players. However our goaline and short yardage offense was terrible last year. We drafted a power FB but we'll likely have an entirely different looking right side of the line this year. I don't even know if he'll reach 10, I just think thats his ceiling this year.
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It's a ten min video but its well worth it. Bring up some great points, a few that I haven't sen mentioned.
All it did for me was just remind me of how frustrating it was to watch the Packers last season.

And my thought's on Ryan Grant. I think he is a definite sleeper because I think he is going to come out of the gates a lot hungrier than last year. To me it looked like he was running scared the first part of the season, missing holes, running into tackles, lacked a burst, but then he slowly picked it up as the year went on. Obviously he didn't get as much help from his O-line as the previous year but he was, IMO, a shell of himself for at least half the games.

He got his $ last year, now he needs to prove he's worth it this year or I wouldn't be surprised if we found a replacement for the year after. He has to be thinking the same thing to himself because the NFL is all about what have you done for me lately. That hunger, mixed with most likely an improved o-line and what should be an improved passing game is why I think it should be a good year for him.
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And a quick fantasy question.

Thoughts on Ryan Grant? I have him as a potential sleeper pick. Yes or no?
With Sitton and Babre likely to start on the right side the offensive line is built much better for the Run this season. Not to mention the OC and Mike M said they plan on establishing the run this season ( they do say that every off season though). I think he's a bit of a sleeper, but you have to remember than the Packers love to pass. The real packer to look at in fantasy is Aaron Rodgers.
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I wouldn't, the line looks like its built for the passing game, than the run. Clifton, Colledge, Wells, and Barbre are better pass blockers, while Spitz is the only run blocker we have.
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I wouldn't, the line looks like its built for the passing game, than the run. Clifton, Colledge, Wells, and Barbre are better pass blockers, while Spitz is the only run blocker we have.
Sitton is likely to start at RT and he's a beast in the run game. Colledge is good at run blocking at the second level as well.
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Sitton is likely to start at RT and he's a beast in the run game. Colledge is good at run blocking at the second level as well.
I would rather see someone else start at RT then Sitton. Anyone can be a good run blocker at the second level, linemen outweight them by 100 pounds.

edit: I just dont think Sitton has the feet movement to be a RT as a Pro; he is much more suited as a RG.
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I would rather see someone else start at RT then Sitton. Anyone can be a good run blocker at the second level, linemen outweight them by 100 pounds.

edit: I just dont think Sitton has the feet movement to be a RT as a Pro; he is much more suited as a RG.
That was a mistype by me. Sitton is slated to be RG, not RT.

Blocking at the second level is not easy for a lineman to do, it takes more than 100 pounds. Its takes athleticism, which Colledge has plenty of.


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According to the Associated Press, Bears CB Charles Tillman's back surgery could keep him sidelined up to 10 weeks.
The negative end of the 4-10 week timeline would put Peanut out until the Bears' Week 5 bye. With three interdivision games in the first four weeks, that would be a crippling loss. Tillman will be placed on the camp/PUP list Friday. There appears to be an outside chance that he'll stay there into the season.
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