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Old 10-12-2009, 02:32 PM    (permalink
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Good to see we brought Taush back we really need help along the o line and hopefully hes jus what the packers need to get on a roll.
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I agree. I'm hoping the old horse still has some fire in him.
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yeah, this CAN'T be a bad move. if he plays at a mediocre level for the rest of the season, he'll be a ginormous upgrade over what we've had.
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yeah, this CAN'T be a bad move. if he plays at a mediocre level for the rest of the season, he'll be a ginormous upgrade over what we've had.
Couple this with the fact that Clifton is coming back next week and our O-line might take a step up from abysmal. I just hope Capers knows what he has to do to fix the defense, like, uhhh, listen to whatever Charles "God" Woodson says.
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from the practice reports today...

Clifton practiced. should be good to go.

Atari Bigby might even make a return.

Barbre is still the starting RT...for now.

COULD be back to full strength. that'd be huge.
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I agree. I'm hoping the old horse still has some fire in him.
Glad he is back! Is he not like 2 years younger then Clifton?
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yeah, this CAN'T be a bad move. if he plays at a mediocre level for the rest of the season, he'll be a ginormous upgrade over what we've had.
Exactly, it's hard to imagine him being any worse than Barbre. And if he is, well, we still have Barbre. Clifton back on the left side means everyone can shift back into place and our line will be not terrible.
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Barbre has not been bad aside from week one. It's been blown out of proportion. The pressure has been coming mostly from the left since then, not the right side of the line. I won't be surprised if he holds Tauscher off, he's not as good at pass protection, but he's a hell of a lot better than Tauscher in run blocking.
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Start with a question: Does anyone think Tauscher can play anywhere besides RT?

Now what I want to talk about. Think about this statement for a second:
Sacks are to Aaron Rodgers as interceptions are to Brett Favre

The amount of avoidable sacks he takes are killing our offense. I'm not saying our offensive line is good, but it isn't as terrible as its been made out to be, particularly in the last 2 games (MIN and STL).

Our running game is actually decent and looking up with Brandon Jackson returning. We average 4.2 YPC good for 12th in the NFL, yet we are 29th in the league in attempts/game at 23.5.

So why don't the stats match up? Why don't we run the ball more if we have been relatively effective at it?

The problem is the sacks we take on 1st and 2nd down. How many times can you remember this happening:
1st and 10: Rodgers drops back, skips all his reads, then tries to outrun a safety, DB or LB on a blitz and takes a sack for -7.
2nd and 17: Complete a pass within 5 yards of the LOS and stretch it into a 8 yard gain.
3rd and 9: Now we have to complete a medium-long pass. Rodgers faces the blitz once again and since he is so inept at handling it, our conversion chances are slimmer than ever.

If he just avoids that first down sack it makes all the difference. 2nd and possibly 3rd down are run/pass downs instead of pass. Less blitz to deal with, able to run the ball, everything goes like it should. We can't pound the rock because we are always playing catch up. Not just on the scoreboard but on down and distance. If he could just avoid those negative plays I think our team is built to be very effective converting 3rd and 5 and maybe our drives would stop dying on one stupid play by our quarterback.

I'll finish by saying that aside from the sacks he takes, Rodgers has been playing at a pro bowl level. If he got the 5-7 seconds some quarterbacks got he'd look like Tom Brady but he screws up way too much when all he has to do is drop 3 or 5 steps and throw, and when he tries to get something out of a busted play he does more harm than good.
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Really dude? Our O-line blows... the only reason we have a 4.2 rush average is because o Rodgers 6.1 YPC, Grant has 3.8 and hardly ever has holes. He seems to finally get a decent run in the end of games so his average doesn't look as bad as it really is. There is a reason we dont run because the coaches have no faith in the garbage. Yeah Rodgers sometimes holds the ball a bit to long but most of the time guys are immediately in his face. For him to play the way he has thus far behind that line is amazing. Besides the sacks aren't all his fault like Favre's dumb*** int's he threw. Theres a bigger difference as well, sacks will hurt you but int's will kill you.
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On the subject of old dogs coming home, Allan Rossum was released by the 49ers today:

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Nelson should be able to competently handle the return duties but Rossum was special when we had him. A foolish move in my opinion to let him go in the first place.
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Apparently if Cliffy can't go Lang will start at LT, not Colledge.

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Glad to see Tausch back in a Packers jersey. He always was one of my favorite Packers.
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Really dude? Our O-line blows... the only reason we have a 4.2 rush average is because o Rodgers 6.1 YPC, Grant has 3.8 and hardly ever has holes. He seems to finally get a decent run in the end of games so his average doesn't look as bad as it really is. There is a reason we dont run because the coaches have no faith in the garbage. Yeah Rodgers sometimes holds the ball a bit to long but most of the time guys are immediately in his face. For him to play the way he has thus far behind that line is amazing. Besides the sacks aren't all his fault like Favre's dumb*** int's he threw. .
Theres a bigger difference as well, sacks will hurt you but int's will kill you.

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I am glad to have Tauscher back on the team.
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The Packers vs Vikings Nov 1st game was moved from 12 to 3:15... Something about the Phillies and the playoffs conflicting with I think it was the Eagles vs Giants game got moved up. So the 2 games flip flopped times.
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I'll finish by saying that aside from the sacks he takes, Rodgers has been playing at a pro bowl level. If he got the 5-7 seconds some quarterbacks got he'd look like Tom Brady but he screws up way too much when all he has to do is drop 3 or 5 steps and throw, and when he tries to get something out of a busted play he does more harm than good.
Seriously. Who really gets 7 seconds in the pocket?

Little Leaguers.
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yeah, apparently the coaches were very impressed by him in the Vikings game.


AWESOME to see. i bet they'll let Colledge walk in free agency and Lang will be the new LG in '10.
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AWESOME to see. i bet they'll let Colledge walk in free agency and Lang will be the new LG in '10.
Which would suck, seeing as how Colledge is a good LG and they're impressed with Lang at LT.
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Let the best offensive lineman walk? Child please.


Quinn Johnson to be active this sunday. I'm pretty excited for that. Hammer time.
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One reason I love Aaron Rodgers... Despite being sacked 20 times (league high) in the 1st 4 games, he refuses to bash the o-line. He takes just as much blame as anyone. Stand up teammate.

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One reason I love Aaron Rodgers... Despite being sacked 20 times (league high) in the 1st 4 games, he refuses to bash the o-line. He takes just as much blame as anyone. Stand up teammate.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4561380
You don't prefer the Manning approach " we had protection issues."
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You don't prefer the Manning approach " we had protection issues."
protection issues and an "idiot kicker" hah.
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With the trade deadline looming and people throwing out pretty much crazy rumors... Any chances the Packers offer up three 1st round picks for Brett Favre to return to Green Bay?
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