Green Bay Packers Discussion

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by Whistler6

Berry fined for hit on Rodger's in OT

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...it-on-rodgers/

...Um, thanks?

But it wasn't a penalty-able (is that a word) offense/infraction?
Or does Mike Perrerira say it was another judgment call, that went for the home team? Like Woodson falling down?

[J-Mike88]

Who do you all WANT to win this weekend, and THINK will win this weekend?

I want:
-Dallas
-NO-Arizona... no preference really, I like both teams. Saints though would make the Grape Apes have to play a road game, so I'll root for the Saints
-Colts
-Chargers

[princefielder28]

Pretty much who I want to win is who I think will win...

Baltimore
Arizona
Minnesota
San Diego

[johbur]

That's nice. A fine for the late hit, the missed facemask and the two missed offensive pass interferences. And just nine months or so until next season...

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

But it wasn't a penalty-able (is that a word) offense/infraction?
Or does Mike Perrerira say it was another judgment call, that went for the home team? Like Woodson falling down?

Of the 3 fines, 2 were called penalties in the game, which matters way more than a fine.
Which 2 were penalized and which 1 wasn't?

Green Bay — Arizona Cardinals defensive end Bertrand Berry was fined $5,000 by the National Football League for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers in overtime Sunday, a play that did not draw a flag during the Packers' wild-card loss.

It happened on the Packers' second play from scrimmage in OT, when guard Daryn Colledge was flagged for a hold. If Berry were penalized during the game, the second-and-10 play would have been replayed because of off-setting penalties.

For the Packers, safety Atari Bigby (facemask) and end Cullen Jenkins (roughing the passer) each were fined $5,000.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by johbur

That's nice. A fine for the late hit, the missed facemask and the two missed offensive pass interferences. And just nine months or so until next season...

Worse than a 9-month wait, because it's exactly 12 months til our next playoff game gets here when we can make ammends. So much time..... :(

(yes that means I have us earning a bye next year and watching 8 other teams struggle in the wildcard round)

[tjsunstein]

Green Bay - Arizona Cardinals end Bertrand Berry was fined $5,000 by the National Football League for his helmet-to-helmet hit on quarterback Aaron Rodgers in overtime -- a play that did not draw a flag during the Packers' wild-card loss.

It happened on the Packers' second play from scrimmage, when guard Daryn Colledge was flagged for a hold. If Berry were penalized during the game, the 2nd-and-10 play would have been re-played because of off-setting penalties.

Cardinals cornerback Michael Adams was not fined on the final play, when he had a finger in Rodgers' facemask after causing a fumble.

For the Packers, safety Atari Bigby (facemask) and end Cullen Jenkins (roughing the passer) were each fined $5,000.

Someone has some explaining to do.

[cvv84]

Some grades are in on the season:

offense

defense

special teams

coaching

[J-Mike88]

Here's some stuff from McGinn.
http://www.jsonline.com/packerinsider/81902692.html

Check it out. He's found a TON of similarities between the 1995-1996 Packers and the 2009-2010 Packers, which would bode very well for us this year.
Unbelievable parallels! I hope it's a good omen.

In 1992 under new coach Mike Holmgren, the Packers improved slightly each year until they won it all in '96. They missed out on the playoffs on the final day in '92, split a pair of playoff games in '93 and '94 and lost in the NFC Championship Game in '95.
Holmgren's regular-season record in his first four seasons was 38-26.

In 2006 under first-year coach McCarthy, the Packers have ridden a roller coaster. They lost a playoff tiebreaker in 2006, were an overtime interception from making the Super Bowl in '07, sunk to 6-10 in '08 and went one-and-out this year.

McCarthy's regular-season record in his first four seasons is the same as Holmgren's: 38-26.

-The architect, general manager Ron Wolf, turned 58 late in the 1996 Chamnpionship season.
-Thompson, who was trained by Wolf, will be 58 two weeks before the 45th Super Bowl is played in Dallas next year.

-Holmgren was 48 when he won the Super Bowl as a fifth-year coach.
-McCarthy will be 47 late next year as a fifth-year coach.

-Fritz Shurmur, the defensive coordinator under Holmgren, marked his 17th season as a coordinator in '96 when he coached in his first Super Bowl.
-Dom Capers, the defensive coordinator under McCarthy, will enter his 17th season in 2010 as he tries to coach in his first Super Bowl.

-Favre turned 27 that October and was in his sixth season when the Packers won the Super Bowl.
-Rodgers will turn 27 in December as he completes his sixth season.

-Reggie White, the free-agent leader of Holmgren's defense, was 35 and in his 12th season when he raised the Lombardi Trophy.
-Charles Woodson, the free-agent leader of McCarthy's defense, will turn 34 in December as he finishes his 13th season.

How did the Packers move from 11-5 and a point differential of plus-90 in 1995 to 13-3 and a point differential of plus-246 in 1996?

Five players from Wolf's great draft of 1995 - Craig Newsome, William Henderson, Brian Williams, Antonio Freeman and Adam Timmerman - emerged as outstanding players.
In 1996, he either signed, claimed or traded for Desmond Howard, Santana Dotson, Eugene Robinson, Andre Rison, Bruce Wilkerson and Don Beebe.

With every hole plugged and a slew of players elevating their games, the Packers became the first team since the 17-0 Miami Dolphins of 1972 to lead the NFL in points scored and points allowed. No team has done it again.

[Whistler6]

I don't miss this:

Brett Favre almost made it through the week without addressing whether this could be his final game. Almost.

"If you win, you go on. If you lose, you're done -- and for me -- that could very well be my last game,'' Favre told ESPN's Ed Werder.

I look forward to Vikings fans having to sit through an offseason wondering whether or not they have a QB.

[princefielder28]

Originally Posted by Whistler6

I don't miss this:



I look forward to Vikings fans having to sit through an offseason wondering whether or not they have a QB.

I don't think they'll mind it too much

[J-Mike88]

Favre to Rice, TD, TD, TD.... dang.

[Whistler6]

Brett Favre's postgame motivational "pants on the ground" speech in the locker room, smacking Jared Allen's ass, then breaking down the huddle while screaming "Wooooo!" will be a nightmare on an endless reel inside my head.

[cuzifelt1ikeit]

Originally Posted by Whistler6

Brett Favre's postgame motivational "pants on the ground" speech in the locker room, smacking Jared Allen's ass, then breaking down the huddle while screaming "Wooooo!" will be a nightmare on an endless reel inside my head.

whered ya see that at? id love to check it out

[Whistler6]

Originally Posted by cuzifelt1ikeit

whered ya see that at? id love to check it out

Here ya go my friend, but be warned it's tough to swallow...For me atleast, since I was born into the world of Brett Favre and now he's sleeping with my Ex. Jk.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...on_the_gr.html

[Whistler6]

Packerchatters is a scam of a site and should be boycotted. This article points out why perfectly and hopefully it will finally get that out there to people who follow Packerchatters. It's a shame.

http://packerslounge.com/2010/01/17/packer-chatters-sucks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+packersloungeRSS+%28The+Packers+Lounge%2 9&utm_content=Twitter

[Mr.Regular]

If the Vikings go all the way, I'll feel like my childhood idol is personally flipping me off and kicking me in the nuts all in one.

Sure, going to the Jets was bad. And going to Minnesota in the first place was gut wrenching. But if I see Brett Favre's mug on my TV hosting the LOMBARDI trophy I don't know if there is a word to describe how sad/angry/sickened I will be.
He's ruining football for me!

[princefielder28]

Originally Posted by Mr.Regular

If the Vikings go all the way, I'll feel like my childhood idol is personally flipping me off and kicking me in the nuts all in one.

Sure, going to the Jets was bad. And going to Minnesota in the first place was gut wrenching. But if I see Brett Favre's mug on my TV hosting the LOMBARDI trophy I don't know if there is a word to describe how sad/angry/sickened I will be.
He's ruining football for me!

For me, I love Brett Favre and I love to see him play football. I have no problem whatsoever with him as a Viking. Football is a business and the Packers made a business decision to move on and Favre wanted to continue to play. He wanted to play for a winner and in a system he knew; Minnesota was the perfect fit. Does it stink that he plays for a rival? It's not the ideal situation but both sides got what they wanted and I have no problems with how everything has turned out this year.

[RyanBraun8]

I'm hoping he does win the Super Bowl. I love Favre Viking or not. Everyone complains and complains about him playing for the Vikings but the guy still can play at a top QB level. Looking back it was the right move for the Packers, Rodgers has had the best stats of any QB in NFL history during his first 2 years as a starting QB and Brett stills loves the game and can flat out play. What good would it do to have one of those guys riding the pine for us? None what so ever. Can't be mad at Brett for loving football, doesn't matter Viking, Jet, Bear, Cowboy, or any other team. He felt he could still play, Vikings gave him a chance to prove it and guess what he was right, good for him.

[J-Mike88]

Well I don't understand why another team didn't trade us a 1st round pick for the guy. There are 15 teams who could have really used him.
It's just tragic that he had to end up with the grape apes, the evil stepchild to the west.
The Vikings look like the best team left now. But he's been known to choke in the playoffs, crunch time. I hope he at least gets that chance again and they're in a game where they're traling in the 4th quarter against a real defense.

But aside from the Jets, there are no great defenses left in his path.

[cvv84]

I must say I hate Favre with a passion. I hate how I defended the guy in his last years as a Packer only to have him turn his back on the fans and the orgainization that took a chance on trading for him and stood by him during his addiction years.

He didn't want to be a Packer anymore. Plain and simple. I only wish that we were able to deactivate him for the final 2 years he was under contract just to stick it to that pompus premadona ****.

[ImBrotherCain]

I always loved the guy... he played the game the way it was supposed to be played. Loved every minute and was the definition of a gunslinger. To me he retired 2 seasons ago and has done nothing since. I still love the way the guy plays but i think he was a giant piece of **** retiring two times and un-retiring to he can make it to the team he wanted to play for... that just screams scum to me.

[PackerLegend]

I hate Favre as well and hope he and the Vikings fail miserably. Plain and simple.

[tjsunstein]

It was cool to see Favre get this far but enough is enough. He needs to be done and out of the playoffs asap now.

[J-Mike88]

I even hate talking about that bastard. But he bears mentioning here, as this totally illustrates our issue. UNREAL;

Against Favre (twice), Roethlisberger and Warner, the Packers gave up an average of 39 points, 349 passing yards, a 71.7 completion percentage and a passer rating of 140.3.
Against everyone else's QB's, the defense allowed an average of 14.7 points, 169 passing yards, a 51.5 completion percentage and passer rating of 51.9.

The Packers were dominant in 13 games against less-than-stellar quarterbacks -- they picked off a league-high 30 interceptions and allowed 19 touchdown passes. But against Favre, Warner and Roethlisberger, they didn’t have a single interception and gave up 15 TD throws.

This is why I think the Saints might have scored 70 points on us had we won.