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Old 01-01-2007, 05:48 AM    (permalink
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just to throw my two cents into the ring on brett.

i think he is 50-50 right now. i mean he brought this team to 8-8 from 4-12 last year. the problem last year was #4 thought he didnt have "it" anymore. now he knows he can still do "it." but now he is stuck between a rock and a hard place to decide whether he wants to come back again, or hang them up and call it a career. Ending with beating his alltime rival the bears, at home.
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Today sucks. Brett could be retiring. If the Giants lost we'd be in the playoffs. If we lost to the Dolphins, but won against the Rams, we'd be in the playoffs. God damn it. We're going to be very good next year, though.

My FA wish list:
Tony Gonzalez
Adalius Thomas
Ken Hamlin
not Michael Turner (he's an RFA and would likely cost us either a 1st rounder or a 1st and 3rd rounder)

My Big Board of players who could be available:
Laron Landry
Marshawn Lynch
Ted Ginn Jr.
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I believe the interviewer just caught Brett in an emotional state after the game. I'm not saying the man won't retire, but anyone who thinks Favre is set in stone of retiring is pretty fickle.

Just give the man a few weeks and he'll tell us...

Personally I think tonight's performance, and the last months, will make him want to come back for another year.
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just to throw my two cents into the ring on brett.

i think he is 50-50 right now. i mean he brought this team to 8-8 from 4-12 last year. the problem last year was #4 thought he didnt have "it" anymore. now he knows he can still do "it." but now he is stuck between a rock and a hard place to decide whether he wants to come back again, or hang them up and call it a career. Ending with beating his alltime rival the bears, at home.
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Season's over now, I would love to see what you guys think and what you think of what I think about what we should do in the off season.

*Trade down to the early twenties to pick up an extra second rounder.


DRAFT.

First Round Selection: Marshawn Lynch, RB, California.

Second Round Selection: Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina.

Second Round Selection: Craig "Buster" Davis, WR, LSU.

Third Round Selection: Aundrea Allison, WR, East Carolina.

Fourth Round Selection: Sabby Piscitelli, DB, Oregon State.

Fifth Round Selection: Marshall Yonda, OG, Iowa.

Sixth Round Selection: Taurean Charles, OLB, Bethune-Cookman.

Free Agency.

*Resign Cullen Jenkins to a four year deal.
*Sign QB Damon Huard to a three year deal.
*Sign Asante Samuel to a six year deal.
*Give Al Harris a bonus.
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if we are going to draft a WR in round 2 or 3 why not
Steve Smith
or Anthony Gonzalez

And how come nobody has brought up the point of signing Nate Clemmens, he is a FA this year
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Because Davis and Allison are better.
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someone PM me if you know why i always get that on the PACKERS FORUM HERE.... it's irritating.

no other threads do this to me.
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that schedule is way wrong.
we don't play the vikings lions or bears anymore?
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Alright, first of all, was it just me, or did anybody else notice how dead that field looked?

I think Poppinga needs to be replaced this offseason. He's not the best in coverage, and over the course of this game, you could see him miss 3, 4, 5, tackles that could have been for a loss, but instead went for ten yards. Other than that, defense was amazing. Special teams was great in containing Hester. We need a return specialist from the draft. A guy like we used to have in Rossum. Overall that was such a great game to watch.
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Hopefully Hodge makes a jump in the off season, and they shift Barnett to the outside.
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COACHING, OFFENSIVE COORINATOR

any chance we get anyone from Atlanta, who has a patent on the ZBS?

many former head coaches end up taking OC or DC positions after being fired. or just positional coaches.

what WAS jim mora jr before being named the HC of atlanta?
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theres a tidbit on profootballtalk.com that says that sharper might be out in minni...would you guys give him a shot or no?

I would love Sharper to come back.... Him and Collins. Now thats a force to be reckoned with....
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For the right price, I'd take Sharper back also, and do it SOON to help entice BRETT to return. Add some veterans like Sharper and Gonzalez, and it reminds me of 1995-96 with Keith Jackson, Eugene Robinson, etc.
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not Michael Turner (he's an RFA and would likely cost us either a 1st rounder or a 1st and 3rd rounder)
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he's unrestricted. If he is a RFA I would change what I had in that write to Lynch in round one and go after Hamlin.
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Hamlin is not that great, especially in coverage. He's a good hitter though.

I think Michael Lewis could be had for half the price, from what I hear.
Also, Asante Samuel, CB, would be a much better addition.
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not Michael Turner (he's an RFA and would likely cost us either a 1st rounder or a 1st and 3rd rounder)
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he's unrestricted. If he is a RFA I would change what I had in that write to Lynch in round one and go after Hamlin.
Turner is a RFA but I highly disagree with trying to get Sharper back. We let him go the first time because he wasn't really worth the money he was asking for. Things really have not changed all that much since then. Ken Hamlin would also be a poor choice because we already have a good young FS in Nick Collins. We don't need another.

I think we only need one big FA signing this year, Tony Gonzalez. That would give Favre another legitimate passing threat. So Favre would have Driver, Gonzalez Jennings, Robinson, Ruvell Martin, and maybe one or two late picks at wide receiver. Not that bad if you ask me. Our WR corps hasn't been all that bad this year, the only problem we've had is a big red zone target. Gonzalez would fill that role perfectly.

I think LaRon Landry would make the best first round choice for the Packers. He would really help shore up the secondary. Some may say Lynch would be a better pick but remember the Broncos have had a ton of success unearthing late round picks at the running back position. I see no reason why the Packers would not be able to do the same.
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Hamlin is not that great, especially in coverage. He's a good hitter though.

I think Michael Lewis could be had for half the price, from what I hear.
Also, Asante Samuel, CB, would be a much better addition.
Why would he come to the Packers knowing he won't be starting. Samuel is out of the question. Michael Lewis isn't even starting for the Eagles and he's terrible in coverage.
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I haven't really had any chances to post anything latley and i know this is late new but man, did the pack look sharp last night
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just got back from up north, had to watch the game on a **** ass tv but, DDDDAAAMMMNNNN. We were straight fire that game. I dont care if the Bears had nothing to play for, we made Rexy look like a guy who has never played football before. If I were a bears fan, thank god thats not true, Id be worried with the play of him. If Collins can play Ed Reed like half the time that would be a dream.The way Martin, and Holiday played I dont think we need to address WR. These guys are raw but look as though their potential is limitless. They both have great size and Holiday could be used as a Randell El type guy.

War signing Gonzo
War Favre coming back for one last campaign
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Alright, first of all, was it just me, or did anybody else notice how dead that field looked?

I think Poppinga needs to be replaced this offseason. He's not the best in coverage, and over the course of this game, you could see him miss 3, 4, 5, tackles that could have been for a loss, but instead went for ten yards. Other than that, defense was amazing. Special teams was great in containing Hester. We need a return specialist from the draft. A guy like we used to have in Rossum. Overall that was such a great game to watch.
we might get a probowl returner back next season though.
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collins played like the stud we need him to every week.
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So Kurt. Fired?
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collins played like the stud we need him to every week.
tottaly, he was awsome, what a hit by Manuel, I was tanked at the time so I was jumpin all over the place
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Here are my thoughts about how we'll look next year.

We were one team away from the playoffs with plenty of winable games that we just didn't pull off. Hopefully Fave and TT see that. 2 weeks ago I was more certain than the past 2 years that he would be back now I'm seriously thinking that was it. Saying he comes back we have a great chance for playoffs and maybe even do something when we are there. TT did a good job with Woodson last year but he needs to go bigger this year. I believe we have close to $30 million in cap space assuming Favre's back. So let's start on offense. TE - I think we're all agreed that Franks isn't cutting it anymore. I know that a lot of you were against going after Gonzalez but I think it would be a good signing. He is still a top five TE and would be a good receiving target. Then WR - Driver and Jennings are obviously 1 and 2 then I think Martin has improved and showed some progress and could be a decent #3. Now going after a guy like Drew Bennet wouldn't be a bad idea but I think with the addition of Gonzalez it lessens the need and we pass on him. This could go either way but I'll say Ferguson's back. Next we got RB - Since Turner is a RFA we don't go after him since he isn't worth a first round pick. Lynch is the pick in round one and we get our back of the future. Green is resigned for the chance that Lynch is gone. Lynch gets most of the time while working Green and Morency in there. Green is signed only to a one year deal and gone after the season. QB- I am assuming that Favre is back for the purpose of this so we are fine here. OL- I believe we have nothing to upgrade here. our interior is young and learning fast and playing well and our Tackles are fine for now. Clifton may be declining but he should certainly be fine for next year and Moll has shown that he is capable of starting when needed.

Now for Defense. DE - While a lot of people are wanting improvement to the position, I don't think we do. There is no FA that will be available to us that is an upgrade and there isn't a first round DE I like either. Maybe addressed in rounds 2-5 but I'm only giving names for FAs and the 1st round as I'm not doing a mock draft. It'll stay with Kampman on one side and Jenkins on the other with KGB on pass downs. DT - I wouldn't be totally opposed to getting a top DT in the draft but we have more pressing needs. Branch will be gone but Okoye intrests me. In the end we stay with Pickett and Corey Williams and the young rotation that we have there. LB - Hawk and Barnett are solid and young no need to change them. Poppinga I think would be fine to start again next year but why not add someone to improve? No, not Briggs I'm talking about Adalius Thomas. It's a lot of money tied up at LB but we'd easily have the best in the league and it would help the DE as they would have 3 great tacklers behind them. CB- Woodson and Harris are the oldest on our defense but are still only 30 and 32 and playing at a probowl level. That means no upgrade this offseason. Behind them is question about but I think we'll be fine. Dendy has played well at nickle and is certainly better than Carrol. I don't think he's the long term answer but he'll be fine. Blackmon has been hurt all season but if he can stay healthy he could even challenge for the Nickleback spot. another will probably be picked up in rounds 3-6 for depth. S - Nick Collins had a bit of a down year compared to last year but he is still a good starter and should improve. Manuel has blown coverages and at times has trouble wrapping up, but is not as bad as we make him out to be and has improved from the beging of the season. We have good young depth behind them with Culver and Underwood. Culver has got some time this season and hasn't made any big mistakes while in. Underwood has been injured but he was challenging to start and I expect he could do so again. I wanted to go S in the first round but went with a RB. We could go after Hamlin but not too strongly as he will get more than he's worth. Underwood or Manuel will be the guy.


Special Teams. K-Rayner stuggled at Chicago but other than that has been good. The hasn't been a time were I wished we still had Longwell. P -Like Rayner, Ryan has a leg. I prefer seeing his long line drives than BJ's floaters that went 20 yards. Once again no need to upgrade. KR/PR - Assuming Blackmon comes back he would probably take over these duties. Morency is alright on KRs but Woodson scares me on PRs. I would hate to see him go down for the season on a return considering his injury history. Drafting a guy wouldn/t be out of the question but after the Corey Rodgers thing this year I think we bank on the fact that Blackmon will do it and if not stick with Morency/Woodson.

So our roster would be

QB-Favre/Rodgers/Martin
RB-Lynch/Morency/Green
WR-Driver/Jennings/Martin/(Ferguson, Holidaye, Francies, drafted wr from round 2-5)
TE-Gonzalez/Franks/Lee
T-Clifton/Moll
G-Colledge
C-Wells
G-Spitz
T-Tauscher
with Moll to fill in when needed

DE-Jenkins/KGB
DT-Pickett
DT-Williams and rest of rotation
DE-Kampman
LB-Thomas
LB-Barnett
LB- Hawk
CB-Harris/Dendy
CB-Woodson/Blackmon
S-Collins/Culver
S-Underwood/Manuel

K-Rayner
P-Ryan
KR-Blackmon/Morency
PR-Blackmon/Woodson

That is definately a playoff team in the NFC and could even contend.
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