Green Bay Packers Discussion

Originally Posted by jackalope

are you sure it's #15? i asked this question earlier.

thats what scott said

[jackalope]

Originally Posted by 70challenger457

thats what scott said

packers.com says we've got the 16th

[GB12]

Originally Posted by TitleTown088

I want either lynch( i want him the most), jerrett, Ginn if they are avialable. If the packers don;t go RB in round one i hope they snag either booker or bush in the second if they are avialable.

Not Ginn. Jarret would be ok but I definately don't want Ginn and I can't see TT drafting him anyway.

Right now in round 1
1.Lynch
2.Landry
3.Okoye
4.Jarret
5.Nelson

[cuzifelt1ikeit]

Originally Posted by jackalope

packers.com says we've got the 16th

it might be a coin flip thing

[RockJock07]

I think Lynch would be good, but he may go higher then that. I disagree, i think the pack have many major needs.

WR- After driver and jennings they have role players. Robinson is a wild card, if he can be the Koren of old, they will be better off, but they have to get one high in the draft or FA. Holiday has been a nice surprise.

RB- Green was decent, but GB needs a game changer. Lynch would be an ideal fit. maybe Michael bush in the 2nd?

TE- This is by far the most glaring offense need. All the TE's are awful, Franks has been down right sickening. The TE from the U, olsen looks like he could be a 2nd round pick. Tony Gonzales would be amazing but that would a reach. either way, this is the biggest need.

DB- Nickle back is a major need too. I still think will Blackmon would be a better option then pactrick dendy but blackmon can't stay heathy. But in the middle rounds, a DB would be a good pick.

DL- Some sort of DL help is needed, Jenkins and kampman at the ends, but Pickett needs a partner inside.

Even though the packers were 8-8 they need alot of help.

Originally Posted by cuzifelt1ikeit

it might be a coin flip thing

It's not, the only coin flip is the Bucs/Browns, someones wrong :shock:

Originally Posted by RockJock07

I think Lynch would be good, but he may go higher then that. I disagree, i think the pack have many major needs.

WR- After driver and jennings they have role players. Robinson is a wild card, if he can be the Koren of old, they will be better off, but they have to get one high in the draft or FA. Holiday has been a nice surprise.

RB- Green was decent, but GB needs a game changer. Lynch would be an ideal fit. maybe Michael bush in the 2nd?

TE- This is by far the most glaring offense need. All the TE's are awful, Franks has been down right sickening. The TE from the U, olsen looks like he could be a 2nd round pick. Tony Gonzales would be amazing but that would a reach. either way, this is the biggest need.

DB- Nickle back is a major need too. I still think will Blackmon would be a better option then pactrick dendy but blackmon can't stay heathy. But in the middle rounds, a DB would be a good pick.

DL- Some sort of DL help is needed, Jenkins and kampman at the ends, but Pickett needs a partner inside.

Even though the packers were 8-8 they need alot of help.

I disagree that Franks is awful. His pass catching skills definately diminished but he is one of the best blocking TE's in the league. Tell me the last time you saw him laying on the turf trying to block. So comon, he's not "sickening."

[GB12]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9901730

If the official site of the NFL has them at 16 that's what I'm believing.

[Hawk]

If we could get Landry and then Bush in the 2nd, that would be ideal. TE is an issue though, we need someone who can be a big time red zone threat which Franks used to be but hasnt shown lately.

Originally Posted by Hawk

If we could get Landry and then Bush in the 2nd, that would be ideal. TE is an issue though, we need someone who can be a big time red zone threat which Franks used to be but hasnt shown lately.

I'm not sure about all the other TE's in the draft but with the two most talked about TE's Olsen or Miller I dunno if our draft position will allow us to take them. I think it would be too big of a reach in the first round and i'm not sure if they would drop to them in the 2nd. If one of them drops to our 2nd round pick than I don't think there sould be a hesitation to pick one of them up.

Originally Posted by GB12

Not Ginn. Jarret would be ok but I definately don't want Ginn and I can't see TT drafting him anyway.

Right now in round 1
1.Lynch
2.Landry
3.Okoye
4.Jarret
5.Nelson

I don't think Okoye should be that high, I would like to fill the other positions before DT. I think you should put Okoye at 5 and bump up Nelson and Jarret to 3 and 4 respectively.

[RockJock07]

No, I think franks has been sickening, he drops passes alot. The packers aren't paying him for his blocking ability, it's time to produce or get rid of him. He needs to produce TD's or be cut, he was signed to be the red-zone threat he used to be. His "blocking ablilty" cost the packers a TD in the vikings game. It's time for change, he needs to be replaced!

Originally Posted by javon favre

I'm not sure about all the other TE's in the draft but with the two most talked about TE's Olsen or Miller I dunno if our draft position will allow us to take them. I think it would be too big of a reach in the first round and i'm not sure if they would drop to them in the 2nd. If one of them drops to our 2nd round pick than I don't think there sould be a hesitation to pick one of them up.

from what it looks like if olson saying olson is going to fall to us is not much of a strech

Ya know guys, Joe Newton could be a real solid round 3 pick, from what scott says he's got good solid reliable hands, blocks decent just isn't all that fast and has had injuries, I think it was a knee. I think if thew opotunity for Greg Olson doesn't come about in the second I would like to see Newton in the 3rd

[ImBrotherCain]

Well you guys are talking about a safety and i know we could use a upgrade at OLB. How about a guy like Aaron Rouse from Virginia Tech? They say hes a DB/LB Tweener and i think he could sneek in to the first two rounds.

[Jim Jim]

SHORTLIST OF NEEDS.

DB: I'm meshing safety and cornerback together here, because it is our top need. What would happen if Harris forces a holdout or, if him or Charles got hurt? We'd be screwed because we have nothing behind them at all. They're both getting up there, it's better to have a replacement in place now and not later.

WR: I like Holliday, but I don't think he's much more than a fourth wideout. Martin is okay, but has a lot of mental laspes. I think we need a solid guy to come in and who can make plays, stretch the defense, open up the field for Driver and Jennings.

RB: Ahman Green showed some of his old burst at Chicago, but I think that may have been running for the dollars, because he didn't run with that much vigor the entire season. I like Morency and think he could be a solid 1-2 punch with a draft choice.

OLB: Poppinga is decent, but I think we could use some healthy competition here.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

I honestly have no idea what's going to happen for our draft. Last year I was talking AJ Hawk in October/November, it's so much harder picking in the middle of the first round with a far less glaring need. We could go anywhere from Lynch to TE Zach Miller, Ted Ginn, Dwayne Jarrett, Landry, Nelson, or a corner. I think TE is the most galring for a first round pick but the question is whether or not TT will address that in Free Agency. If we do the pick is somebody else. The two biggest keys to our early draft is Ahman Green's status come draft time and if there's any new Tight End's on the roster.

[CARDIAC CAT 7]

Perfect Scenario would be RB first round A.Peterson (maybe get real lucky and he falls, RB is the position that falls the most on draft day), M. Lynch (probable pick). Then in the second round take G.Olson or Z.Miller (probable to come out). Then in the third round get a tough corner of a workout warrior (A.Carroll) or a fast 40 (W.Blackmon, he still has a chance) someone along the lines of an Al Harris because he cant play forever.

Found This List of Free Agents:
Unestricted free agents:
RB Ahman Green (should resign)
TE Donald Lee
TE David Martin
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (if unsigned then this could be 1st Rnd pick)
DT Kendrick Allen
LB Ben Taylor
LB Tracy White
LS Rob Davis
Restricted free agent:
DT Cullen Jenkins

I don't think KGB is a free agent.

Cullen Jenkins is gonna cost us some big $....

[sik wit it]

Originally Posted by SterlingSharpe

I don't think KGB is a free agent.

Cullen Jenkins is gonna cost us some big $....

he wont cost us too much money, nothing we should worry about

[CARDIAC CAT 7]

Originally Posted by SterlingSharpe

I don't think KGB is a free agent.

Cullen Jenkins is gonna cost us some big $....

I wasnt sure KGB was a free agent either. O well last time I go to that site.

[roughrider30]

Originally Posted by Nitschke-Hawk

I honestly have no idea what's going to happen for our draft. Last year I was talking AJ Hawk in October/November, it's so much harder picking in the middle of the first round with a far less glaring need. We could go anywhere from Lynch to TE Zach Miller, Ted Ginn, Dwayne Jarrett, Landry, Nelson, or a corner. I think TE is the most galring for a first round pick but the question is whether or not TT will address that in Free Agency. If we do the pick is somebody else. The two biggest keys to our early draft is Ahman Green's status come draft time and if there's any new Tight End's on the roster.

I would agree with you that TE is probably our most glaring need, but value wise I dont think it will be the best pick in the first round. I think it is clear that our needs on offense are a receiving TE, RB, and a WR. IMO our first round pick will need to be someone who can score TDs other than Driver, whether it is a red zone threat or a playmaker. This could be filled by Lynch, Ginn, and Jarrett. This is key especially if Favre leaves, Rodgers will need another target in order to succeed. We were the second worst team in the NFL, behind the Raiders, in Red Zone scoring.

Originally Posted by roughrider30

I would agree with you that TE is probably our most glaring need, but value wise I dont think it will be the best pick in the first round. I think it is clear that our needs on offense are a receiving TE, RB, and a WR. IMO our first round pick will need to be someone who can score TDs other than Driver, whether it is a red zone threat or a playmaker. This could be filled by Lynch, Ginn, and Jarrett. This is key especially if Favre leaves, Rodgers will need another target in order to succeed. We were the second worst team in the NFL, behind the Raiders, in Red Zone scoring.

You make a good point by saying especially if Favre leaves. I think if he does leave than they must address the offense in the first round. TD's might be tough to come by without him.

[Pack_Attack_4]

If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).

[GB12]

Originally Posted by javon favre

I don't think Okoye should be that high, I would like to fill the other positions before DT. I think you should put Okoye at 5 and bump up Nelson and Jarret to 3 and 4 respectively.

I meant to have Jarret ahead of him but there is just something that makes me want him more than Nelson. This has to be one of the hardests years to decide though.