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Old 01-03-2007, 04:55 PM    (permalink
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If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).
He fits the WCO perfectly and thats the only reason why I want him on the team. He's probably my #3 want for possible realistic picks
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Jarrett would be a good fit for the Packers, perhaps even allowing them to go with a three wide-out set if his blocking is decent and get the TEs off the field if we don't bring in someone competent. I personally hope that Ginn falls to the Packers. I don't want Lynch in round 1, but a safety would be OK if one falls. I think 16 is a little high for Olsen/Miller, but I'd like to see TT trade down to 24 or so and take one of those two.

Notice that when the Packers apply an arse-whooping that the Bears fans posting in here dissappear? Chicago had a great year, but after seeing how pathetic their QBs were, against what one poster dubbed "the least-talented team in the NFL", I doubt too many Bears fans are thinking that their opening game is a gimme...

I would like to target Lance Briggs in FA. Adalius might be the best defensive FA, but getting Briggs weakens the Division winner and solidifies the LB corp. Either of them would allow us to go 3-4 if the team wanted that look. We could almost do it now, though we're not that deep, but Hodge next to Barnett doesn't suck.
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Jarrett would be a good fit for the Packers, perhaps even allowing them to go with a three wide-out set if his blocking is decent and get the TEs off the field if we don't bring in someone competent. I personally hope that Ginn falls to the Packers. I don't want Lynch in round 1, but a safety would be OK if one falls. I think 16 is a little high for Olsen/Miller, but I'd like to see TT trade down to 24 or so and take one of those two.

Notice that when the Packers apply an arse-whooping that the Bears fans posting in here dissappear? Chicago had a great year, but after seeing how pathetic their QBs were, against what one poster dubbed "the least-talented team in the NFL", I doubt too many Bears fans are thinking that their opening game is a gimme...

I would like to target Lance Briggs in FA. Adalius might be the best defensive FA, but getting Briggs weakens the Division winner and solidifies the LB corp. Either of them would allow us to go 3-4 if the team wanted that look. We could almost do it now, though we're not that deep, but Hodge next to Barnett doesn't suck.
A couple things I don't agree about. One, Ginn is not the receiver we need. If we take a WR in round one it will be a big possesion guy(Jarret). Two, TE is a need but even if we trade down it's not the right place to spend the first pick. Three, NO way we convert to a 3-4. We would have to make a lot more changes and we are starting to get a very good 4-3.
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Jarrett would be a good fit for the Packers, perhaps even allowing them to go with a three wide-out set if his blocking is decent and get the TEs off the field if we don't bring in someone competent. I personally hope that Ginn falls to the Packers. I don't want Lynch in round 1, but a safety would be OK if one falls. I think 16 is a little high for Olsen/Miller, but I'd like to see TT trade down to 24 or so and take one of those two.

Notice that when the Packers apply an arse-whooping that the Bears fans posting in here dissappear? Chicago had a great year, but after seeing how pathetic their QBs were, against what one poster dubbed "the least-talented team in the NFL", I doubt too many Bears fans are thinking that their opening game is a gimme...

I would like to target Lance Briggs in FA. Adalius might be the best defensive FA, but getting Briggs weakens the Division winner and solidifies the LB corp. Either of them would allow us to go 3-4 if the team wanted that look. We could almost do it now, though we're not that deep, but Hodge next to Barnett doesn't suck.
A couple things I don't agree about. One, Ginn is not the receiver we need. If we take a WR in round one it will be a big possesion guy(Jarret). Two, TE is a need but even if we trade down it's not the right place to spend the first pick. Three, NO way we convert to a 3-4. We would have to make a lot more changes and we are starting to get a very good 4-3.
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If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).
He fits the WCO perfectly and thats the only reason why I want him on the team. He's probably my #3 want for possible realistic picks
If the Packers want a big target they should just trade a draft pick to Detroit for Mike Williams or wait for him to be cut. Jarrett probably is a little better but Mike Williams still has alot of talent he just needs the right coaching and hes a much lower risk and cheaper price.
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If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).
He fits the WCO perfectly and thats the only reason why I want him on the team. He's probably my #3 want for possible realistic picks
If the Packers want a big target they should just trade a draft pick to Detroit for Mike Williams or wait for him to be cut. Jarrett probably is a little better but Mike Williams still has alot of talent he just needs the right coaching and hes a much lower risk and cheaper price.
Mike Williams has proved that he can't make it in the NFL. I don't want to see him signed
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If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).
He fits the WCO perfectly and thats the only reason why I want him on the team. He's probably my #3 want for possible realistic picks
If the Packers want a big target they should just trade a draft pick to Detroit for Mike Williams or wait for him to be cut. Jarrett probably is a little better but Mike Williams still has alot of talent he just needs the right coaching and hes a much lower risk and cheaper price.
I definitely wouldnt mind that, since we could then focus our first round pick on other needs. Since, Driver, Jennings, Robinson (when he comes back), and Williams is better than what we have now.

I guess it would depend on what they would have to give up for him, if anything.

Like you said there would be little to no risk in getting Williams, especially if he was cut.
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If Favre leaves we should take Dwayne Jarrett, A.Rods goanna need another target, plus this guys huge in the redzone (6'5 210).
He fits the WCO perfectly and thats the only reason why I want him on the team. He's probably my #3 want for possible realistic picks
If the Packers want a big target they should just trade a draft pick to Detroit for Mike Williams or wait for him to be cut. Jarrett probably is a little better but Mike Williams still has alot of talent he just needs the right coaching and hes a much lower risk and cheaper price.
Mike Williams has proved that he can't make it in the NFL. I don't want to see him signed
We would basically be giving up nothing for a guy that has a similar skill set to Jarrett. While Jarrett would cost a first round pick.
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we should make bets on how many picks TT will end up with after all the trading down. I'm gunna say he's gunna have a down year and finish with 9.
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call me crasy but I think the packers should trade for shaub. Remember the last QB we got from Atlanta. Happend once it happen again.
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we should make bets on how many picks TT will end up with after all the trading down. I'm gunna say he's gunna have a down year and finish with 9.
I don't think he'll do that as much this year. In previous years, there were a lot of holes that needed to be filled, whereas this year there are fewer, more minor, holes that need to be filled.
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I would really like to see Marshawn Lynch in Green Bay. I think he'd really get a chance to shine up there, especially right now. I think he'd be a PERFECT fit there and would make an absolutely dominant RB in the ZBS that they are installing. I hope he gets the chance to fall that far!
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who other than lynch u see the pack takin if lynch aint there?
i wouldnt mind Ted Ginn :D
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I would. but mostly because I think he's gunna be a bust but thats just me
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At this point my preference would be to take Lynch. If he's gone then I think our most pressing needs that I would address with a first rounder is DB or interior DL that can pressure the QB. Our LB group is fine, if Pop isn't the answer then making due with Hawk, Barnett, and Hodge would still be better than most LB groups in the league. I mean thats 2 studs and 1 potential playmaker. My concern with is that Green isn't gonna want a 1 year deal. At this point in his carrer he is looking for 1 last big payday that will take him into retirement. I would love to keep him around but I don't know that his asking price and # of years will be worth it. I agree with most that we need to do something about our TE, but I don't think spending a 1st rounder this year would be a good idea. If Favre returns then TGonz may consider GB if TT is willing to spend the money but if Favre is gone then Gonzo will go to a potential SB contender. I think we can make due with our current WR's and try to find a good value deeper in the draft. Too many WR busts from 1st round to be worth the risk. Esp Ginn. If we do end up with Jarrett I would be ok with that but not my first, 2nd or third choice.
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we should make bets on how many picks TT will end up with after all the trading down. I'm gunna say he's gunna have a down year and finish with 9.
I don't think he'll do that as much this year. In previous years, there were a lot of holes that needed to be filled, whereas this year there are fewer, more minor, holes that need to be filled.
that is exactly right last year we had many needs, opposed to this year when many of the needs are more specific. I could see them trading up in some rounds and giving away picks this year instead. We are much closer to a playoff contender now.
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LSU RB i think his number is 5 is amazing and would fit perfecly in the ZBS when is he coming out?
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What do you guys think about Amobi Okoye?
I think he's still a little raw but with a little work he can be pretty good he will have some extra time to get better because he is only 19. Right now he is projected as a high first round pick. I'm pretty sure he has received comparisons to Warren Sapp because of his ability to get off the ball quickly.

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http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...mobiokoye.html

I don't really thin the Packers should draft him though, they just have too many other glaring holes than at DT. Where they already have 1 good pretty good starter and a few average ones.
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we have much bigger needs than DT and thats the only reason I'm against him. I think he could be a real good player for a really long time
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So lets forget about Marshawn Lynch for a second, who else would the Packers draft?


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Actually I think a DT would be a very good pick for the pack. Part of the reason the pass defense was terrible in the first half was a weak pass rush. Too many QB's were able to step up in the pocket and buy that extra 1-2 seconds they need to let a WR get open. It might not be the most pressing need but if the right DT is available and Lynch/Jarrett are gone I woulnd't be dissapointed at all. In fact when were looking at a top 10 pick this year I was hoping for Branch if he declared.
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Actually I think a DT would be a very good pick for the pack. Part of the reason the pass defense was terrible in the first half was a weak pass rush. Too many QB's were able to step up in the pocket and buy that extra 1-2 seconds they need to let a WR get open. It might not be the most pressing need but if the right DT is available and Lynch/Jarrett are gone I woulnd't be dissapointed at all. In fact when were looking at a top 10 pick this year I was hoping for Branch if he declared.
Yeah, maybe this would be a good post but the fact of the matter is the packers have a top 5 pass rushing defense. And jenkins had 6.5 sacks, williams has 7, we have enough productivity there at DT
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