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Old 11-30-2010, 04:34 AM    (permalink
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As mentioned in another thread, how likely do you think it may be that the Packers try to cash in on Matt Flynn this offseason considering the needs at QB around the league? I thought and still think as high as a 3rd.
I agree with you completely, we have developed a late round pick and we should trade him for a 3rd or 4th rounder. Then we should trade up in the draft and get Ryan Kerrigan from Purdue in the 1st round. Ahh, dreaming, but I really believe that Flynn will be traded. We will have Graham Harrell in his second year as a packer and probably draft a QB late maybe a guy like Tolzien, someone that is a winner with some accuracy like the QB out of Alabama.
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Nice to see that we got a deal with Tramon locked up. 4yr/$41mil.

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DeShawn Wynn Returns

DeShawn Wynn will be at Lambeau Field this week as he has been promoted.
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Nice to see that we got a deal with Tramon locked up. 4yr/$41mil.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111071544.html
Wow, he's a rich man now.
Too bad that wasn't 5 or 6 years for $41, from the team perspective.
Hopefully he's playing better than ever when that 4 year deal is up.
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As expected, Chillar and Havner were placed on IR today. In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet

inpositive news, glad to see them lock Tramon up. Who is next? James Jones or Cullen Jenkins? I really hope they don't let Jenkins go. You win in the trenches, and it never hurts to have a deep and talented Dline. I want to see Jolly back next year to
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Wow, he's a rich man now.
Too bad that wasn't 5 or 6 years for $41, from the team perspective.
Hopefully he's playing better than ever when that 4 year deal is up.
I think 4 years is perfect. We have him until he's 31. That's a good time to re-evaluate at.
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As expected, Chillar and Havner were placed on IR today. In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet...
Un****ingReal. Our guys are fragile.

So we've now lost our #2, #3, and #4 OLBers coming into the season.

Who's left to pick up out there?
Is Adalius Thomas on anyone's roster?
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Very nice to hear Tramon is locked up.
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James Starks will get a chance to show what he's got.

I can't say I've ever seen him play live, which is pretty rare for a collegiate player.

I don't know if he's a guy who can hit a hole immediately (assuming there are any), or if he's a guy who can get around the edge.
His style and speed are very similar to Ryan Grant, although he probably has better hands and lacks the physicality of Grant. He also runs EXTREMELY upright; more like a WR then a RB. Don't expect amazing things.

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As mentioned in another thread, how likely do you think it may be that the Packers try to cash in on Matt Flynn this offseason considering the needs at QB around the league? I thought and still think as high as a 3rd.
Why would we trade Flynn? I doubt he's shown enough for a 3rd round pick and we'd be leaving ourselves without a good backup despite having a somewhat injury prone and oft-running QB.
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Like with Ryan Grant and Scott Wells the past few years, I've tried to defend Daryn Colledge. But now.... and why are we always running left behind him instead of Sitton on the sneaks and short yardage? WTF....

From Bob McGinn:
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RATING THE OL vs ATLANTA

The Falcons rushed three men as many times as they rushed four (16), and coordinator Brian VanGorder blitzed just 23.8%. DE John Abraham, their only rushing threat, spent the first half over Chad Clifton and most of the second half over Bryan Bulaga. He went nowhere against Clifton and had two marginal hurries against Bulaga.

So the Packers pass-blocked well, but the degree of difficulty wasn't great. The problem was the run game, where Josh Sitton was the only starter not responsible for at least one-half "bad" run.

Aaron Rodgers should have had a freeway into the end zone on the first sneak because the Falcons' front wasn't even lined up. But when Daryn Colledge got way too high against DT Peria Jerry, then didn't work well with Scott Wells against NT Corey Peters on the second, back-to-back sneaks failed.

Colledge finished with two "bad" runs, Bulaga had 1, Wells had one and Clifton had one-half. The embarrassing minus-6 run by Brandon Jackson would have been at least a short gain, but Wells lost his balance and let MLB Curtis Lofton steam in untouched. Colledge and Bulaga had false-start penalties on the last drive. Losing teams commit those kinds of fouls.


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Second quarter, 8 minutes left. Score tied, 3-3. On second and goal from the 2, the Packers line up with four WRs, one TE and no RB. Barking signals, Aaron Rodgers changes the huddle call. He moves up from the shotgun set to under center and takes a quick snap with 3 seconds on the play clock. The Falcons’ defense is spread all across the field.

The Falcons are late lining up; it should be an easy touchdown. DT Peria Jerry isn’t even in his stance when the ball is snapped. Across from Jerry, Daryn Colledge comes off too high and is out-leveraged by Jerry, who plays through the guard and grabs Rodgers around the knees as he surges to the 1. Chad Clifton offers little punch next to Colledge. Then LB Curtis Lofton and DT Jonathan Babineaux pop Rodgers as he topples over at the 1.


On third down, the sneak is called by Mike McCarthy. This time the Packers are in an I formation with three TEs. Arrayed against them are 11 men in the box. Again, Rodgers puts the ball under his left arm and tries to fight his way in behind Colledge. In the A gap, DT Corey Peters gets lower than C Scott Wells and Colledge, submarines and does enough to slow Rodgers’ progress. RG Josh Sitton isn’t helping much, either. As Rodgers leans forward, he is wrapped up by Lofton and the ball comes loose. It bounces about 3 yards into the end zone. LB Mike Peterson is the first man to the ball, just ahead of Brandon Jackson and Wells, and makes the contested recovery for a touchback.


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I find it funny how everyone loves Matt Flynn now. A year ago no one thought he was anything. It wasn't until McCarthy was praising him this preseason that people started liking him. Now all of a sudden he's a starting QB and worth a 3rd round pick.
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I find it funny how everyone loves Matt Flynn now. A year ago no one thought he was anything. It wasn't until McCarthy was praising him this preseason that people started liking him. Now all of a sudden he's a starting QB and worth a 3rd round pick.
I totally get what you're saying but thats a bit of an exageration. Competent packers fans know what they have in Flynn. MF showed me he was a man in the preseason and has earned his roster spot. Hes a legitmate backup with room to improve. Nothing more, nothing less. That said, i dont think the packers could win a playoff game with flynn under center.
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That said, i dont think the packers could win a playoff game with flynn under center.
Have we won a playoff game with Rodgers under center?
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No, hes 0-1, but we came danm close. c'mon jmike, good point, but you knew what i meant. with that said, rodgers gives us a chance to make a deep run into the playoffs.
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Nice to see that we got a deal with Tramon locked up. 4yr/$41mil.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111071544.html
Everything that I've read says that it's just over $33 million, which seems much more reasonable. Maybe there are escalators that can get it to $41 million?

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Flynn to me seemed like a guy who would always be a good backup. Just like back when we had Craig Nall. As to trading him? I highly, highly doubt that. For one we'd have no capable backup and would have to draft and groom someone all over again. Secondly, after the Charlie Whitehurst debacle, I doubt anyone would offer more than a 5th for Flynn. Then you look at this years QBs in the draft and theres a potential of 4 first round picks right there. Re-sign him and keep drafted later round QBs - Ron Wolf 101.
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No, hes 0-1, but we came danm close. c'mon jmike, good point, but you knew what i meant. with that said, rodgers gives us a chance to make a deep run into the playoffs.
You're right obviously. Rodgers is great. And he showed some super clutchness Sunday that I think really meant a lot to Aaron.

Still, I don't think we're dead if Flynn has to play because I think the guy can move the chains. I'm not saying I have the same confidence if he were to go down as I did in the Patriots when Drew Bledsoe went down in the 2000 season and the young Tom Brady had to fill in.
But I don't think Flynn is bad at all and he might do well.

Let's all hope we don't have to find out though, either way.

Nick Collins wasn't at practice today. The Packers only had 2 total safeties and one of them was Jarrett Bush. How dangerously thin are we back there right now with Burnett and Bigby out?
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Didn't even notice Woodson until I read what you wrote. I thought it was Flynn trying to do the Rodgers thing.
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I think Flynn has taken over and tries to get in the back of all the captain photos. Funny to see Woodson there
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odds the Packers finish with a 12-4, or a 11-5 record and not make the playoffs? would that be a first? what time is the protest if it does happen?
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Great piece here about THE DRIVE Rodgers orchestrated on Sunday.
http://packersinsider.com/2010/12/es...ges-forgotten/


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Wow, my predictions would have The 10-6 Bucs edging out the 10-6 Eagles for the #6 seed, based on tiebreaker I guess.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

I have us going 4-1, losing at NE but winning the 3 home games, and at Detroit.

It has us getting the #2 seed and important bye, edging out the Giants.
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I got 3 seed at 11-5 with the Bears missing the playoffs. But change week 17 to a Bears win and we switch places.

It looks like we're going to have to go at least 4-1 and beat the Bears to win the division. And at least 3-2 and beat the Giants for a wildcard.
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odds the Packers finish with a 12-4, or a 11-5 record and not make the playoffs? would that be a first? what time is the protest if it does happen?
Patriots missed the playoffs with 11-5 record two years ago. Pretty sure it's either statistically impossible or astronomically improbably that a team misses the playoffs at 12-4.

If the Packers drop either of these next two games we're very realistically looking at missing the playoffs. Must wins.
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