Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 652

J-Mike88 · 01-08-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cvv84

No, I actually know what he's saying and I don't agree with him. Do you not understand that concept either?

Amazing what happens when you leave a player at one position. Lets hope they keep that going with the offensive line.

I just hope Bulaga proves me wrong, and turns into a good or great NFL offensive lineman, and stops killing us too often this season.

He killed us in the Redskins game, and tried to kill us last week vs the Bears.
And he messed up on the final drive at New England. Not the last play that Flynn was sacked on by BB's guy -that wasn't BB's fault-, but the one on 1st down of that drive that set us back fatally.

Favre4ever · 01-08-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mike88

I just hope Bulaga proves me wrong, and turns into a good or great NFL offensive lineman, and stops killing us too often this season.

He killed us in the Redskins game, and tried to kill us last week vs the Bears.
And he messed up on the final drive at New England. Not the last play that Flynn was sacked on by BB's guy -that wasn't BB's fault-, but the one on 1st down of that drive that set us back fatally.

Bulaga is a LT, we cannot blame him for everything. Hes learning to play RT and shortcomings are to be expected. Remember when we tried Colledge at tackle? It was a disaster. Not eveybody can make a switch and be succesful. Bulaga is very young, and hes doing a good job, a little patience please.

bigboiajhawk · 01-08-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Favre4ever

Bulaga is a LT, we cannot blame him for everything. Hes learning to play RT and shortcomings are to be expected. Remember when we tried Colledge at tackle? It was a disaster. Not eveybody can make a switch and be succesful. Bulaga is very young, and hes doing a good job, a little patience please.

Well Put...The guy is only 21 years old. He has a bright future as an LT for the Pack.

All we need is a guy like Carimi to play RT or LG and move Lang to RT and we have just secured our OL for a long time.

BloodBrother · 01-08-2011, 10:35 PM

Bulaga was playing well for much of the season, but seems to have hit the "rookie wall" I'm not worried about him. He's also playing out of position, and I wish the Packers would STOP moving guys around on the OL

RyanBraun8 · 01-10-2011, 12:06 AM

Little early does anyone think packers should really make a strong play for Aso? He is agruably the most shut down corner in the leage(only 33 targets 13 rec for 205 yards 0 Tds in 10') You put him opposite of a shutdown Williams and let Woodson be Woodson and play everywhere. Sheilds is great depth a would give Packers possibly the best or at least top 5 DB core. Woodson could also move up to SS if need be. Since hearing about the void this has been on my mind. Who would people attack? This would also allow more time for the front 6 or 7 to cause a QB hell.

The question is he worth the money and if TT would even make an attempt but man that would be scary! Aso, Woodson, Williams, Collins, Sheilds, Burnett

BloodBrother · 01-10-2011, 12:15 AM

he is worth th emoney, but I doubt the Pack sign him. They'll be lookin to lock up Jenkins, probably Jackson as well. Say what you want about his running, he's excellent on 3rd downs and is a great blocker. A solid backup.

roughrider30 · 01-10-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

he is worth th emoney, but I doubt the Pack sign him. They'll be lookin to lock up Jenkins, probably Jackson as well. Say what you want about his running, he's excellent on 3rd downs and is a great blocker. A solid backup.

Agree about Jackson. I think he would had an excellent year behind Grant this year as a 3rd down back. He showed he couldn't be a starting back, but I like him a lot in a role behind a #1.

That screen TD was ran beautifully.

Sportsfan486 · 01-10-2011, 01:05 AM

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Agree about Jackson. I think he would had an excellent year behind Grant this year as a 3rd down back. He showed he couldn't be a starting back, but I like him a lot in a role behind a #1.

That screen TD was ran beautifully.

But realistically will they keep Grant, Starks, Jackson, Kuhn?

BloodBrother · 01-10-2011, 03:06 AM

Well, Kuhn is a FB, so they could keep all of them.

RyanBraun8 · 01-10-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

Well, Kuhn is a FB, so they could keep all of them.

Agreed, I don't see why not. They can still do what they do with Kuhn next season, Grant is not the worlds greatest power back. Jackson can still be third down back because he is the best blocker and receiver in our backfield. Then you have Grant and Grant 2.0 (James Starks) who are pretty much the same back (size, running styple)

We got a power back, 2 slashers, and while Jackson a homerun theat 3rd down back he does get the job done, not to forget a bruising fullback. I think Korey Hall will be the odd man out even though he is a great specialist (Havner was better and he got cut)

J-Mike88 · 01-10-2011, 10:54 AM

Starks reminds me of a poor-man's Adrian Peterson now.... big and strong, fast, leans forward at the end of almost every run. Hungry, energetic.

I think all our RB's FBs will be back next year except Korey Hall.
SO: QuinnJ, Kuhn, Starks, Grant, Jackson will be the 5.

senormysterioso · 01-10-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Starks reminds me of a poor-man's Adrian Peterson now.... big and strong, fast, leans forward at the end of almost every run. Hungry, energetic.

I think all our RB's FBs will be back next year except Korey Hall.
SO: QuinnJ, Kuhn, Starks, Grant, Jackson will be the 5.

Based on yesterdays game, that seems like a fair comparison. The only thing he's lacking is the top end speed. I don't think Jackson should be retained. We can get what he gives us out of a rookie, who has the potential to blossom into something more.

J-Mike88 · 01-10-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by senormysterioso

Based on yesterdays game, that seems like a fair comparison. The only thing he's lacking is the top end speed. I don't think Jackson should be retained. We can get what he gives us out of a rookie, who has the potential to blossom into something more.

I'm certainly not in love with B Jackson and could live without him, but I think the coaches feel very good about him on 3rd downs, or 2nd & longs and screens like yesterday.

Still, he offers nothing special as we saw from Lynch to seal that win over the Saints, and Jackson was a 2nd round pick so he should possess something better than just okay.

I think with him, it depends on his contract and I would expect it's pretty minimal, easy to absorb. Not sure though. Look at the Saints though.... sometimes you need 4 RBs to make it through... I think Jackson will stay but who knows.

BloodBrother · 01-10-2011, 12:25 PM

the coaches love Jackson because he is assignment sure, reliable and most importantly, he is a good blocker. Helping to keep Rodgers upright and not take big hits goes a long way with the coaches. We've heard how much they have raved about him before. I see them bringing him back. a Grant/Starks/Jackson trio should be excellent.

Zycho32 · 01-10-2011, 02:54 PM

Assuming Grant recovers fully for next season, should we try placing Starks at KR?

Hear me out; Starks is a one-cut downhill runner in the Grant mold and he plays on a team that is frequently outdoors and has a penchant for playing in weather that is a detriment to those speedy little waterbugs we so zealously covet for the job. So unless we can find a specific Collegate demon on returns with the sort of mental makeup to withstand the cold and outdoor conditions, it might be more worthwhile to play it 'sure and steady' and just fix the blasted blocking.

J-Mike88 · 01-10-2011, 05:45 PM

I want our #5 WR to be a guy like a Jacoby Ford, a KR specialist.
There are some guys like that we can find on day 3 of the draft. I like Swain, but I feel a great KR would be better than what he offers us.

Bottom line is I want to be drafting #32 every round.

Auron · 01-10-2011, 05:57 PM

Well now that the Saints are out of it, I'm rooting for the Packers to make it all the way.

Hopefully they can beat the Falcons.

drowe · 01-11-2011, 11:58 AM

Anybody ever stop and think how strange of a trip it's been for James Starks this year?

-Drafted in the 6th round out of Buffalo. Strange right off the bat since a small school RB is a fringe draftable prospect unless he's a physical freak.

-Add in the injury concern...the dude didn't play at all his senior year...and combine that with the low level of competetion, and this guy is lucky to be a UDFA.

-But, for whatever reason, the Packers drafted him in the 6th round....and what does he do....gets hurt and misses TC and the pre-season.

-Well, we tried. Now he's injured again, so the question is, do we cut ties right away, or stubbornly place the dude on IR thinking maybe he'll be healthy next year. Nope. We'll put him on the PUP list.

-So, half the season comes and goes, and a decision needs to be made. NOW it seems like time to release him or send him to IR. NOPE. added to the roster.

-So, after a couple weeks, he gets some game time...and plays pretty well. So, the assumption is; he'll be a fixture for the rest of the season. NOPE. health scratch for the next few weeks.

-Now, in week 18, he has to be considered the MVP of the Wild Card game.

-But, really, everything about this guy in 2010 has defied all logic.

-But, just another reason to love Ted Thompson.

princefielder28 · 01-11-2011, 12:12 PM

Starks has had quite the ride over the past year or so but it's not like he's come completely out of nowhere...if he had stayed healthy his senior year there was a chance he'd go in the first two rounds of the draft

RockJock07 · 01-11-2011, 02:43 PM

So is Capers still safe from other teams trying to hire him as a HC. I hope so, I think he knows this situation is pretty damn good with a young defense, TT getting him what he needs, and a young superstar QB on the other side of the ball.

I'm just crossing my fingers that he stays.

BloodBrother · 01-11-2011, 03:04 PM

Well, as long as the Pack are in the playoffs, teams can't talk to him. I think Denver has been the only team he's been linked to as a candidate, so far. I'd hope he'd want to stick here considering the situation in Denver is a mess. Here, he's got a defense that is in only their 2nd year in his scheme and is playing well, and has some great young talent to work with.

BloodBrother · 01-11-2011, 03:08 PM

BTW, here is a great read on James Starks. Did you know that he was almost going to be a Bear?

Bears nearly drafted Starks 10 picks before Green Bay took him

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As we got closer to our pick, Angelo made the decision for the Bears to draft Starks. When we drafted a player there was a protocol we followed. After the decision on who to draft was made, Cliff Stein (the Bears contract negotiator) would call the players agent and tell him we were planning on drafting his player. He would tell the agent that the wanted to get a 4-year contract with the player and wanted the contract done by a certain date. If the agent agreed then I would call the player and give him the news that the Bears were going to take him. This is exactly what happened with Starks. I was on the phone for a minute or so with Starks when Angelo walked in my office and told me he had changed his mind and was drafting LeFevour. I put Starks on hold and then said to Angelo that Stein had already talked to the agent and I had the player on the phone…we couldn’t do business like that. He said he was sorry but he decided he wanted LeFevour and the card had been turned in.

I then had to tell the player (a player that I had developed a good relationship with over the previous two years) that in fact we were not drafting him. Hearing a kid go from being extremely excited to silence was not easy. It was the most embarrassing moment I had experienced while scouting.

Gotta love Jerry Angelo

PackerLegend · 01-11-2011, 03:14 PM

Who saw Casey Matthews forced fumble in the 4th quarter last night? That looked so much like his older brother Clay. I think the bloodlines this family has is enough reason to get his brother on our team :D.

GB12 · 01-11-2011, 03:38 PM

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Who saw Casey Matthews forced fumble in the 4th quarter last night? That looked so much like his older brother Clay. I think the bloodlines this family has is enough reason to get his brother on our team :D.

Too bad we have absolutely no need for another ILB.

J-Mike88 · 01-11-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodBrother

BTW, here is a great read on James Starks. Did you know that he was almost going to be a Bear?

Bears nearly drafted Starks 10 picks before Green Bay took him
Gotta love Jerry Angelo

Hopefully he plays extra hard and well every time we face the Bears for about the next 8 years!