Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 726

princefielder28 · 03-28-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pack_Attack_4

I remeber last season during a game they said Saine had some of the best hands on the team.

He started his time at Ohio State as a receiver and was converted to a back

PackerFan20 · 03-29-2012, 01:17 PM

Anthony Hargrove signs with the Packers. Haven't seen any contract terms yet, but this is a definite improvement.

Smokey · 03-29-2012, 02:56 PM

Only confirmation I've seen is Hargrove again going mad with his Twitter account. Sigh. Will look for an official word.

TimmG6376 · 03-29-2012, 04:48 PM

I've hit my limit on the JS Blog but the ESPN NFCN blog reported that he signed. His weight is about 290 right now and that is what he intends to play at.

princefielder28 · 03-29-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

I've hit my limit on the JS Blog but the ESPN NFCN blog reported that he signed. His weight is about 290 right now and that is what he intends to play at.

for a player whose game has been predicated more on his athleticism, it'll be interesting to see how that helps/hurts his game

Smokey · 03-30-2012, 08:37 AM

Official transaction posted on nfl.com. I'd have rather gone with Langford as he's a proven 5 technique and very strong against the run but lauds to TT for recognizing the need and taking steps in free agency.

TimmG6376 · 03-30-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokey

Official transaction posted on nfl.com. I'd have rather gone with Langford as he's a proven 5 technique and very strong against the run but lauds to TT for recognizing the need and taking steps in free agency.

Seems like the coaches would have preferred Langford as well considering they inquired about him first, but you don't always get what you want. I don't believe the details of the Hargrove contract have been released, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that we signed both Muir and Hargrove for less than what Langford got from the Rams.

TitleTown088 · 03-30-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokey

Official transaction posted on nfl.com. I'd have rather gone with Langford as he's a proven 5 technique and very strong against the run but lauds to TT for recognizing the need and taking steps in free agency.

Langford was also a much more expensive option.

TitleTown088 · 04-02-2012, 12:38 PM

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Hargrove accepted a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum of $825,000. Not only did it not contain any bonus money, it also was structured to protect the team.

At the same time, Hargrove had to sign an injury waiver that would reduce his compensation even further if he suffered an injury to an area of his body in which there was a pre-existing condition. He has had back and other medical issues during a career that began in 2004 with St. Louis.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/145779365.html?

mqtirishfan · 04-02-2012, 01:00 PM

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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/145779365.html?

Does Hargrove even have an agent?

TimmG6376 · 04-02-2012, 01:59 PM

So for ~1.5mil (Muir + Hargrove) they got some veteran competition/depth for the defensive line. The 1 year deals tell me this will not have any impact on whether they look at DE early in the draft.

Nice tidbit about the new salary cap rules for veteran players on minimum contracts. I was not aware of that new rule and I like it.

tjsunstein · 04-02-2012, 02:05 PM

I agree that these signings have absolutely no indication what TT will do in the draft. The only one that may is Saturday and what was discussed behind closed doors about his future beyond this year, if they even touched on that. But the only way I see us going C in the first is Konz. If he isn't there then I see a 4th or later spent on a developmental C. But that's strictly speculation on my part.

TitleTown088 · 04-02-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mqtirishfan

Does Hargrove even have an agent?

Would it have made a difference?

princefielder28 · 04-03-2012, 10:01 AM

Nick Collins will not meet with the team until next week. He's probably gotta due some serious thinking about his future following his appointment this week. I'm guessing he will never play football again.

Pack_Attack_4 · 04-03-2012, 11:43 AM

if nick cant come back this will be a huge blow to our def

Sportsfan486 · 04-03-2012, 12:39 PM

Sounds like retirement to me..

Smokey · 04-04-2012, 01:02 PM

Bell signed with the Eagles:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...on-peters-void

Marshall Newhouse or bust!!

TimmG6376 · 04-04-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokey

Bell signed with the Eagles:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...on-peters-void

Marshall Newhouse or bust!!

Well there was no way Thompson was giving him a 5-year deal with both Newhouse and Sherrod in development. Especially with his injury history. Eagles were desperate and he cashed in.

Sportsfan486 · 04-06-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

Well there was no way Thompson was giving him a 5-year deal with both Newhouse and Sherrod in development. Especially with his injury history. Eagles were desperate and he cashed in.

Yeah. Sherrod is supposedly coming along nicely from what seemed like a baaaad injury.

Newhouse is at least okay. Bell really isn't better than Newhouse and definitely not worth what he got.

TimmG6376 · 04-17-2012, 09:42 AM

Newhouse made a jump last season without an offseason really. Based on how the coaches keep saying he gets better the more reps he takes, I expect another jump from him. Even 100% healthy Sherrod might have trouble overtaking him this season...IMO

princefielder28 · 04-17-2012, 05:02 PM

Rumors have it that the Packers will play the opening Sunday against San Fran and then that next Thursday they'll play the Bears (both games at home)

princefielder28 · 04-17-2012, 05:08 PM

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The player rep for Nick Collins (neck surgery) isn't expecting a decision on the safety's playing career until after the draft.

"All the opinions aren't in," said Herman, "and I think he's getting another [specialist] opinion." Although Collins is reportedly optimistic about resuming his career, the agent insists he doesn't yet have a better feel for whether he will be cleared to play.

just more to suggest that Collins will never play another down for the Packers

Sportsfan486 · 04-17-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Rumors have it that the Packers will play the opening Sunday against San Fran and then that next Thursday they'll play the Bears (both games at home)

Gotta love we got the Niners at home. That should be a win, although Gore will likely be fully healthy and should have a big game.

I still can't believe our schedule..

Home: Bears (Win), Lions (Win), Vikings (Win), Cardinals (Win), Niners (Win), Saints (Toss-up), Jaguars (Win), Titans (Win.)

Away: Bears (Toss-up), Lions (Win), Vikings (Win), Rams (Win), Seahawks (Win), Giants (Toss-up), Texans (Win), Colts (Win.)

That's 13 games I feel strongly that we'll win. And it's not like I feel terribly doubtful about the others. We'll probably drop one or two we should win, that's just football, but I'd bet we'll win 2 out of the 3 toss ups.

Then again, is anyone terribly afraid for this regular season? I think the Niners dip in production and the Saints/Falcons beat each other up to keep both their records right around 10. The Giants are notoriously mediocre in the regular season and that division is so tough. Rodgers is pissed about the loss and we all know how well he plays when he's ticked off.

I think we'll get a bye rather easily.
Then again.. jynx?

bigboiajhawk · 04-17-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

just more to suggest that Collins will never play another down for the Packers

I think this has more to do with TT and the draft than Nick Collins. It does not make "draft" sense for the whole world to know the Packers need a Safety or if they don't. I think Collins will play, and that this opinion he is waiting on is just to add more comfort to Nick Collins and his family.

or....I am completely wrong and he failed his physical with the team doctor and surgeon, and he retires and the Packers end up bringing Marquand Manuel back!!!

Sportsfan486 · 04-17-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

just more to suggest that Collins will never play another down for the Packers

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at it this way.. Collins met with the team doctors. If they said "Nope, we can't clear you." That would have been it. Period. No need for another specialist visit because the team doctors won't clear him.

And I guarantee you if the surgeon that performed the procedure said he wouldn't clear him, then no matter what anyone else says he won't play football again. Period. So really, this MUST mean his surgeon cleared him and the Packers want more comfort before agreeing.

More likely, the team doctors cleared him but TT and McCarthy asked for another opinion just to be absolutely sure.

And frankly, at this point there is absolutely nothing to be gained by announcing he's coming back before the draft. If he IS coming back, we won't draft a safety in the first and would love to see teams take Barron and maybe even Smith ahead of our pick to have more players we ARE interested in fall to us.

If he ISN'T coming back, teams will know we're going to look at safeties and make sure Barron doesn't make it to us.

Lose-Lose situation. I think we'll know the answer by how we draft. Safety in the top 3 rounds? He's gone for sure. Safety anywhere after that is likely just for protection.