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Old 02-13-2008, 10:10 AM    (permalink
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Default Red Bryant, LDE/NT, Texas A&M

Just going to be posting these up for "My" Guys just so everyone gets my views and can ask questions about them.

Don't need to do anyone in first round but Bryant is considered an interesting Pick by some I guess.
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What made you change your opinion on Bryant...i remember a few weeks ago, you said to MikeHop Bryant was a joke. But recently you have been really high on him; have you seen more footage, or got some insider info etc??? I havnt seen allot of footage of him, so i would like to hear your analysis. Thanks Stiller
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What made you change your opinion on Bryant...i remember a few weeks ago, you said to MikeHop Bryant was a joke. But recently you have been really high on him; have you seen more footage, or got some insider info etc??? I havnt seen allot of footage of him, so i would like to hear your analysis. Thanks Stiller
To be honest, and at the sake of Sounding stupid. I kept getting him and Okam mixed up.

Every time someone brought Bryant up I kept thinking of Okam.

So, First off, Mike, I'm sorry.

secondly. Bryant is stronger and quicker than Okam, and he plays with Intensity. I think of him as Casey Hampton in a 6'5 325lb body.

I think he could play LDE his rookie season and do a few things from there.

1) Continue to learn passrushing moves and play LDE the rest of his career (With Aaron Smith he has about 2-3 years to prepare).

2) Play LDE as a Rookie Stopgap and Move to NT. Play behind Hampton for 2-3 years and take over.

He is bull strong, can hold the point. He's probably as fast and athletic as Balmer and has a thin frame that could probably hold 330-340lbs and keep his athleticism.

I think he could be a good strongside passrusher because there's very few that can anchor against his strength. Add that to the fact Woodley will be coming off the edge is beautiful.

I still have to watch a few more games but I really like the kid.
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You still may be thinking of somebody else. He came into the Senior Bowl overweight, he played well but was overweight.

That said, i like Bryant in the 3rd rnd. I liked your idea and have been a proponent of a Jumbo package and using Red Bryant or someone else in a Jumbo package on Running downs (spelling Kiesel) and to keep the starters fresh. He defenitely flashes potential but I keep reading about the motivational issues.

The good news for us is there seems to be a handful of very good DE/DT prospects in the 2nd-4rth rnd area in this draft. Pressley, Sims, Moore & Rubin all seem to have what it takes.
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You still may be thinking of somebody else. He came into the Senior Bowl overweight, he played well but was overweight.

That said, i like Bryant in the 3rd rnd. I liked your idea and have been a proponent of a Jumbo package and using Red Bryant or someone else in a Jumbo package on Running downs (spelling Kiesel) and to keep the starters fresh. He defenitely flashes potential but I keep reading about the motivational issues.

The good news for us is there seems to be a handful of very good DE/DT prospects in the 2nd-4rth rnd area in this draft. Pressley, Sims, Moore & Rubin all seem to have what it takes.
I want Bryant Strongside behind Aaron Smith. Work him as a Run stopper/hold the point giving breathers to Smith, meanwhile, Mitchell trains him up as a passrusher.

Get Dykes/Hayden as a WDE.
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I want Bryant Strongside behind Aaron Smith. Work him as a Run stopper/hold the point giving breathers to Smith, meanwhile, Mitchell trains him up as a passrusher.

Get Dykes/Hayden as a WDE.
Isn't this a bit of a mute point though? Because I know you said the Steelers look at bigger 4-3 DE's to transition to DE in their 3-4 defense, not DT's. I'm pretty Wex said the same thing aswell. Is that where you heard it from, Wex?

Anyways, if what both you and Wex said is true, why are we even talking about Bryant, because realistically, we wouldn't be looking at him, unless of course Tomlin has different idea's and he'd be willing to look at DT's come draft time to shift to 3-4 DE.
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Isn't this a bit of a mute point though? Because I know you said the Steelers look at bigger 4-3 DE's to transition to DE in their 3-4 defense, not DT's. I'm pretty Wex said the same thing aswell. Is that where you heard it from, Wex?

Anyways, if what both you and Wex said is true, why are we even talking about Bryant, because realistically, we wouldn't be looking at him, unless of course Tomlin has different idea's and he'd be willing to look at DT's come draft time to shift to 3-4 DE.
Erm...did Tomlin not draft Ryan McBean - DT - Ok State??? I think they will draft who they think is the best option, be that a DE (Kendall Langford) or a DT (Red Bryant, Dre Moore etc).
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What made you change your opinion on Bryant...i remember a few weeks ago, you said to MikeHop Bryant was a joke. But recently you have been really high on him; have you seen more footage, or got some insider info etc??? I havnt seen allot of footage of him, so i would like to hear your analysis. Thanks Stiller
yeah i was gonna say, i liked bryant in my mock and u wernt at all for him...

but yeah mixing him up with okam i can see why
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Erm...did Tomlin not draft Ryan McBean - DT - Ok State??? I think they will draft who they think is the best option, be that a DE (Kendall Langford) or a DT (Red Bryant, Dre Moore etc).
Hey, I want the Steelers to go for whoever they want, whether it be a college DT or a bigger college 4-3 DE. When Stiller and I believe Wex said the Steelers prefer or only look at bigger 4-3 DE's come draft time, I was actually disappointed because there's always talented DT's come draft time who could easily make the transition to DE in a 3-4, though it's not like when the draft rolls around there's ever a boat load of talented bigger 4-3 DE's who could make the same transition to DE in a 3-4. Like for example, in this years draft, there's Langford, Merling, Dixon and possibly Campbell, and that's about it, though if the Steelers are open to DT's aswell, which it would be silly if they weren't, there'd be many more options available obviously. Also, I don't even know how accurate that info is anyways, or if it was just like a jump to conclusions because of the way they've drafted in the past. And about McBean, I actually posted over at SCI at least a couple of times about McBean and how he was a DT for Ok State and we still drafted him, though I never got a response, so I just left it at that. But yeah, I was just wondering why Stiller went from saying the Steelers prefer or only look at bigger 4-3 DE's to being a big fan of Bryant as a possible Steeler when basically, he's a NT, though there's nothing wrong with that and I have nothing against him. As Stiller said, in time, he could probably make for a beastly SDE in our system, especially considering he'd be working with Mitchell, and being mentored by both Hampton and Smith. But anyways, Stiller's already explained to me why he went with Bryant and why he's back with the DT's for the Steelers now, and I totally agree with him, and you for that matter. As I said, I was just wondering.

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Weaknesses in college are so overrated. If you put him in a 3-4, his weaknesses in a 4-3 do NOT translate over.

Thats like saying because a guy can not stop the run as a DE tweener, he wont be able to do it lineing up as an OLB in a 3-4.

Not to mention weaknesses in college can be corrected and coached at the next level.
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