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Old 02-16-2008, 01:04 AM    (permalink
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Assuming most of us have a pretty good idea of how good the 09 prospects are, let's do a comparison thread.

Someone starts off by pitting an '08 recruit vs. '09 recruit. Next person replies and puts up another two.

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Manti Te'o vs. Arthur Brown
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Te'o is just as good of an athlete as Brown, if not better. Both big hitters. The thing that puts Manti over the top is he has real LB size.

Marcus Forston vs Jaccobi McDaniel
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Forston. Marcus has the weight to start and dominate right now. McDaniel is listed at 267 and could possibly need a redshirt.

(btw, is Te'o as fast as Brown? I thought that was what made Brown so highly touted)

Dre KirkPatrick vs. Patrick Johnson
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PJ, he is quicker and better cuts. Both very large for CB's, but I give the edge to PJ.


Rueben Randle vs. Julio Jones or even A.J. Green.
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Julio Jones. A 6'4, 214 lbs receiver with 4.45 speed, and his strength do not come by often.

Darrell Scott or Cierre Wood?
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Scott. He's the bigger, faster California back with more burst. Bryce Brown however is a better guy to compare with.

Terrelle Pryor or Matt Barkley (oooohhh).
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Petey Smith or Arthur Brown?
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Hard to compare different styles, but I'd go with Berkley. I'm not too much into the "dual" threat QB's. I'm sure Pryor will be an excellent QB, but I'd rather have a pocket QB than a scrambling QB. Personal preference. Maybe a better comparison would be Dayne Crist vs. Matt Berkley or Terrell Pryor vs. Kevin Newsome?

Devon Kinnard vs DaQuan Bowers
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Bryce Brown vs. Arthur Brown
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Guys as the first post indicates, you must first answer the previously asked comparison, before you ask your own.
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I'm actually going to go with Kennard, although I'm probably in the minority. Kennard and Griffen are the two players I'd say have the most potential at DE (or OLB) in the past 5 years or so coming out of school.

Jamarkus McFarland or Marcus Forston?
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Forston.

Ej Manuel or Morgan Newton?
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Te'o is just as good of an athlete as Brown, if not better. Both big hitters. The thing that puts Manti over the top is he has real LB size.

Marcus Forston vs Jaccobi McDaniel
I'll take Arthur Brown's closing burst for Te'o size. King Arthur closes better then any recruit I've ever seen, period.

Forston hands down better then McDaniel. Forston and Marvin Austin (07 recruit) mite be the two best DTs recruits in the past 10 years.
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Hard to compare different styles, but I'd go with Berkley. I'm not too much into the "dual" threat QB's. I'm sure Pryor will be an excellent QB, but I'd rather have a pocket QB than a scrambling QB. Personal preference. Maybe a better comparison would be Dayne Crist vs. Matt Berkley or Terrell Pryor vs. Kevin Newsome?

Devon Kinnard vs DaQuan Bowers
You gotta go with the dual threat QB in college. It's actually a safer pick at the college level. Much more of the top ranked dual threat guys have panned out than busts.
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o really?

all rankings according to rivals.
2002
Pro Style
1 Ben Olson list
2 Trent Edwards Stanford
3 Justin Zwick Ohio State
4 Anthony Martinez Virginia
5 Matt Gutierrez Michigan
6 Drew Stanton Michigan State
7 Marc Guillon Miami-FL
8 Drew Olson UCLA
9 Brandon Cox Auburn
10 Joe Tereshinski Georgia

Dual Threat
1 Vincent Young Texas
2 Marcus Vick Virginia Tech
3 James Banks Tennessee
4 Gavin Dickey Florida
5 Lester Ricard Jr. LSU
6 Isaiah Stanback Washington
7 Anthony Johnson UAB
8 Tyler Palko Pittsburgh
9 Curt Dukes Nebraska
10 Sam Williams

2003
Pro Style
1. Kyle Wright Oklahoma
2. Chris Leak Florida
3. Tommy Grady Oklahoma
4. Clayton Richard Michigan
5. Kevin McCabe Virgina
6. JaMarcus Russell LSU
7. Andre Woodsen Kentucky
8. Justin Midgett Florida
9. Sam Keller Arizona State
10. Brady Quinn ND

Dual Threat
1. Robert Lane Ole Miss
2. Dennis Dixon Oregon
3. Marcus Stone NC State
4. Tyler Donovan Wisconsin
5. Syvelle Newton South Carolina
6. Omarr Conner Miss State
7. Robert Johnson Arkansas
8. James Battle TCU
9. Tom Zibikowski ND
10. Bernard Jackson Colorado


2004
Pro Style
1. Rhett Bomar Oklahoma
2. Anthony Morelli PSU
3. Chad Henne Michigan
4. Stephen McGee Texas A&M
5. Brian Brohm Louisville
6. Drew Weatherford FSU
7. Graham Harrell Texas Tech
8. Nate Longshore Cal
9. Blake Barnes Georgia
10. Sean Glennon Virginia Tech

Dual Threat
1. Xavier Lee FSU
2. Matthew Tuiasosopo Washington
3. Bobbie Reid OK State
4. Chase Patton Missouri
5. Nick Patton Kansas
6. Kirby Freeman Miami
7. Brent Schaeffer Tennessee
8. Rocky Hinds USC
9. Jordan Steffy Maryland
10. Darrel Jackson Missouri


2005
Pro Style
1. Mark Sanchez USC
2. Jonathan Crompton Tennessee
3. Harrison Beck Nebraska
4. Derek Shaw Arizona State
5. Willie Tuitama Arizona
6. Rob Schoenhoft Ohio State
7. Joe Cox Georgia
8. Arkelon Hall Washington State
9. Domenic Natale Michigan State
10. Sean Canfield Oregon State

Dual Threat
1. Ryan Perrilloux LSU
2. Jake Christensen Iowa
3. Ike Whitaker Virginia Tech
4. Josh Portis Florida
5. Kyle Reed California
6. Chase Daniel Missouri
7. Jimmy Johns Alabama
8. Cameron Sexton North Carolina
9. Michael Greco NC State
10. Zac Robinson Oklahoma State


2006
Pro Style
1. Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. Mitch Mustain Arkansas
3. Isiah Williams Illinois
4. Josh Freeman Kansas State
5. Pat Devlin Penn State
6. Kevin Riley California
7. Neil Caudle Auburn
8. Chris Smelley South Carolina
9. Zach Frazer Notre Dame
10. Tyler Lyon Arizona

Dual Threat
1. Tim Tebow Florida
2. Demetrius Jones Notre Dame
3. Jevan Snead Texas
4. Jake Locker Washington
5. Jeremy Ricker Maryland
6. Austen Arnaud Iowa State
7. Garrett Green USC
8. Sherrod Harris Texas
9. Antonio Henton Ohio State
10. Thaddeus Lewis Duke


2003 and 2004 obviously favor the pro style guys, 2005 maybe a slight advantage to the dual threat guys, 2006 i'd have to say it's basically a toss up, maybe a slight advantage for pro style. I didn't go past that because it's obviously too early to tell with the 2007 and 2008 classes. Really the only thing that these rankings prove is that they are pretty useless...
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Why the hell is Juice Williams listed as Pro-style?
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he was listed as running a 4.77 out of high school... i dunno, guess they didn't think he was fast enough to be a dual threat.
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2002 we had Vince Young, Troy Smith, Marcus Vick, and Omar Jacobs coming in as the running QBs. But the way the college game is evolving the dual threat QBs are the way to go. Jim Tressel has been pretty much trying to get exclusively running QBs the past few years
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actually the reason i didn't add 2002 is i didn't realize rivals had them sorted by position that year... i'll add them now.
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Hey, thanks for Hijacking the thread guys.....

Devon Kennard vs. DaQuan Bowers

I'd take Bowers

EJ Manuel over Morgan Newton

Vontaze Burfict vs. Nigel Bradham anyone?
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Terrelle Pryor or Matt Barkley (oooohhh).
I was gonna say that. I could have played on Barkley's peewee football team but my coach was an idiot and didn't want him so he quit. At least I played soccer with him when I was like 6 years old.
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Willie Downs vs. Will Hill/DJ Shoemate
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