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Old 02-24-2008, 11:42 AM    (permalink
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N.F.L. Combine News/Rumor Mill, Directly From Indy [Part Five]:

Athletic Penn State linebacker Dan Connor has so far been the hit of interviews. Several teams have said it was the best interview they have seen a linebacker have in the last few years. His film diagnosis and knowledge of the game are precisely why he is a tackling machine. Many have added him to their lists' of must interviews after hearing stellar reports from his first three interviews. The N.E. Patriots and Tampa Bay added him to their lists after the rumors ran in the convention center.

Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long's interviews have been as impressive as his workouts so far. Look for him to get folks in slots 1 to 4 thinking a bit more....Most think the New York Giants victory will lead to a mad rush on defensive lineman early in the draft, but we hear the St. Louis Rams are very pleasantly surprised with what they have seen and what they've heard from Jake Long. The Kansas City Chiefs wont like that news.

Michigan State's 2-way star (TE/DE) Kellen Davis' interview with a 3-4 team was interesting. He was asked defensive questions, even though he is grouped into the tight end group. Apparently this A.F.C. East franchise, which runs the 3-4 base defense, thinks his versatility is a key and they wanted to know if he would do some outside linebacker position workouts at his pro day since he wont be doing them here.

Rutgers' offensive lineman Jeremy Zuttah's interviews have also been going very well. One A.F.C. North G.M. who interviewed him Friday night said he specifically asked him a question right at the beginning to throw this kid off. He questioned his ability to play tackle or guard at the next level and told him several reasons why he felt that way and asked him how he could overcome it to make himself a player? Zuttah, without hesitation, said that no offensive lineman in this draft plays with more effort and "want to" than him and that if this G.M. drafted him he'd work extremely hard to become a pro bowl center. His remarks shocked the G.M. and he went on to say it was one of the better interviews he has seen. He also mentioned that he felt Jeremy's best spot may actually be center.

The best combine so far is between Jake Long and Purdue tight end Dustin Keller. And they've both really impressed with their interviews. But the real talk in the first level of the stands from every G.M. and coach is the offensive line. No team has told us that the offensive line class is weak. The same is true for the running backs....Many scouts and execs, however, think wide receiver is the most overrated position here in Indy.

The running backs that have started to impress before workouts are Jonathan Stewart, Justin Forsett and Mike Hart. Hart, in particular, is described as ready to go right away. His interviews have shown he already knows pass protections and he may be ready to make an impact for his team very quickly....Stewart seems very fluid catching the ball and Arkansas' Darren McFadden seems very defensive about his ability to catch the ball in interviews. Some of this is clearly gamesmanship by the teams hoping to make him work out, but it has rubbed others the wrong way.

Notre Dame safety Tom Zbikowski was apparently challenged on the board by a teams defensive coordinator and ridden real hard. After the questions and answers the DC told him he was not satisfied and was left with questions about his ability to cover the receiver he showed the safey on a film. Tommy Z's response was if he could not cover that particular wide receiver, he would knock the crap out of him to break the ball free. And, Z. said if the coach really did not think he could do it, he would be more than happy to show the other three teams in his division he could and would. Good Stuff by the kid from Chicago.

Texas running back Jamaal Charles had a rough go of it with the interviews. Some teams threw up film of him and asked about protections and he had a lot of trouble. This could be clear evidence that tells you if you draft him, don't expect him to do much until his second season, at least.

Veteran defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is trade bait and many 4-3 teams are lining up. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Atlanta, Buffalo, and the New York Jets are all interested. Best offer so far is a 4th rounder.

Tennesse has tried to shop troubled cornerback Adam Jones here and there is apparently no interested parties, which could mean his N.F.L. career is over. Many have said that they expect him to remain suspended for the entire upcoming season....The other elite cornerback being shopped here is DeAngelo Hall and it appears there are now about 10 suitors for him. Talks between Atlanta and Detroit have heated up in a Rogers for Hall swap.

The New York Jets' front office has denied any possible trades with Jacksonville for Laveranues Coles, but they clearly are shopping young linebacker Jonathan Vilma in Indianapolis. Interest in Vilma has been low, however, due to his troubled knee....Same thing is true with Denver Broncos' wide receiver Javon Walker. Plus, Walker's attitude has also set him back....Arizona is still out looking for trading partners for wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. They've had six teams very interested, with only two having serious cap room to make it possible. It seems the stumbling block is getting Fitz' to pay back some bonus money to make the trade a bit more cap friendly for Arizona, which is in dire need of cap space.

The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

DD.comment: Some have asked us about our sources for these Combine stories. While we can't go into too much detail, we will say this info is coming directly from the Combine and "only" N.F.L. team personnel and the 333 invited prospects are allowed to be present at inside the Combine -- no major media reporters (except NFL Network), fans sites or agents are allowed inside. So this isn't recycled news from other media outlet or web sites. Nor is it info agents are feeding us, hoping we'll hype their players. These are legit news stories and rumors coming directly from the Indianapolis Combine.

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I'd really rather have a first round pick than Rogers, but that's just me. What do you guys think?
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That better not be all. Rodgers is lazy and is being shopped for a second round pick.

But if we can get Rodgers and a second I would be happy.
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we're getting screwed over so bad.
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we're getting screwed over so bad.
Would you be OK with Rodgers and a second round pick?
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6'4" 340 pounds, going on 29.

DT should be able to give us five years, but he is likely passing his prime soon if he is out of shape.
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Rogers for a second would be more like it. I wonder if we can trick them and get a first. Anyways, either way, we'll still need to get a young UT maybe a project UT. Someone like Red Bryant who measures up well with Rogers.
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no i wouldnt be satisfied. his work ethic is crap and the old lions are what the falcons are gonna be like for a couple years. do we want him passing his attributes to our young d-line with potential?

id rather us just get picks in exchange for dhall. every deal is a bad deal cause we are losing a great player but since he wants out we gotta get something back. really sucks.
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