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Old 02-28-2008, 02:33 PM    (permalink
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And it's not who you think (Haynesworth).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3269154

Tommy Kelly re-signed with the Raiders for 7 years and $50.5 million. The plan is for Oakland to permanently move him to 3-tech UT.

Still looking at Dorsey or Ellis? I think with Kelly locked up, Ellis might be a better fit perhaps?
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This comes on the heals of the news that the Raiders will likely re-sign DE Chris Clemons to to "highly lucrative" contract sometime in the next week or so.

That really muddles up what to do with the Raiders' defensive line, and especially the draft. Do you still draft Dorsey or Ellis to pair the rookie with Kelly inside? Or do you wait for the later rounds to draft the player that you really need--a 2-gap DT? Or do you draft a DE even if the Raiders re-sign Clemons? Gholston? Chris Long?
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Is this Oakland trying to make a statement? wow. Dorsey should still be our top option come draft time unless Chris Long is somehow still there.
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Way to overpay for an average player.
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wow I know it's 2 different posistions but if Kelly gets 50.5 how much will Jared Allen get
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Quick thoughts:

1. Interesting deal certainly, topping by a bit Cory Redding last year who the Lions signed to a huge deal. There may be more than one common thread there.

2. Keep in mind that the Raiders signed Terdell Sands to a 4-year, $17M deal before the 07 season.

3. Considering the outrageous money these 3 tech projects are getting, only confirms that a truly elite 3 tech like Tommie Harris is going to command more.
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This comes on the heals of the news that the Raiders will likely re-sign DE Chris Clemons to to "highly lucrative" contract sometime in the next week or so.

That really muddles up what to do with the Raiders' defensive line, and especially the draft. Do you still draft Dorsey or Ellis to pair the rookie with Kelly inside? Or do you wait for the later rounds to draft the player that you really need--a 2-gap DT? Or do you draft a DE even if the Raiders re-sign Clemons? Gholston? Chris Long?
In other news, the FBI has put a warrant out on for the arrest of Tommy Kelly. Charges are highway robbery.
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Kelly and his agent didn't put a gun to the Raiders' head, forcing them to offer the deal.
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wow I know it's 2 different posistions but if Kelly gets 50.5 how much will Jared Allen get
I'm just glad we locked up Justin Tuck for seven years at a little over 30 million.
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Which makes it even worse.
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I said it in the other thread, and I will say it here. Is this a joke? I mean seriously what would compell them to give this guy 50.5 mil?
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If we don't draft Gholston, I sure hope you guys do so NE or NY doesn't get him!
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Dude, stop, let us first lock up Tommie :(
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I think this eliminates the Raiders from using their #4 pick on a DT. I can't see them investing that much at DT. This signing floors me.
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Jake Long is certainly a possibility too if he's on the board. Also fills a great need.
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My initial reaction to this went something like this:

1. Who the hell is Tommy Kelly
2. Wow that's a lot of scratch
3. Who the hell is Tommy Kelly
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Kelly's a solid player, but not at that cost.

Anyhow, I think this rules out DT. Dorsey is likely out. He's the best UT, but you aren't likely to go Dorsey/Kelly in there. I don't think you draft a 4-3 NT this high, so that may rule out Ellis.

It wouldn't surprise me if this move clears their way for

a) McFadden
b) OT

That said, I don't see them looking Otah, and Clady has to work his way up again.

Thus, as of now, my guess at 4 would be Gholston, because, while Clemons is nice, he's not really an everydown end. Even if you believe he can be, Burgess is getting up there, and having Gholston learn and develop would be nice. Certainly fits the physical specimen mold that may intrigue Al.
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All the other DT'S just got alot richer when there contract is up.
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Wow this crazy signing really means the Bears are going to have to break the bank for Tommie Harris.
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Well that sucks. Hopefully that Clemons contract is lucrative enough that DE isn't an option either.
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Wouldn't it have been more prudent to..yanno, give Nmandi some of that money instead? You know, because..he's a lock down corner? Rather than invest it in an average DT?

Meh. Perhaps that's just me. What do Raiders fans think of this deal in general? Worth it? Slightly overpaid? A total steal? I haven't seen any of Tommy Kelly, but I don't see how he could be of more value compared to Nmandi.
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way to set the market
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Lions/Cory Redding last year?
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