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Old 03-01-2008, 03:50 PM    (permalink
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Third and fifth? Good. That's been the status quo for DTs so far, so that's good.

Adios Stroud. It was swell.
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Tripplett was cut yesterday evening.

I'm so happy right now :D :D :D :D
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So McCargo and Stroud eh? Looks like Perry Fewell is looking for the big run stuffer type that Lovie never really cared for.
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this is more than I could have asked for...stroud has injury concerns and is on the downside of his career...I'm glad we got the asking price for premium DT's...
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McCargo and Stroud starting with Kyle Williams rotating in 3rd. A nice UT in the draft and we are sitting pretty.
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Yes :D

We need a pass-rusher, a #4 DT, and a CB, and we are set on defense :)
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Excellent trade for the Bills, obviously they checked Stroud out medically and were confident in making the trade. The Jags were ready to move on, plus they got very good value in Buffalo's picks.

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Plus I think there's been some talk that owner Ralph Wilson has wanted the team to stop the run better.
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Excellent trade for the Bills, obviously they checked Stroud out medically and were confident in making the trade. The Jags were ready to move on, plus they got very good value in Buffalo's picks.


Plus I think there's been some talk that owner Ralph Wilson has wanted the team to stop the run better.
Reportedly the first thing that Wilson said when they sat down to evaluate the team after the 2006-2007 team was "I want to know how we are going to stop the run next year." We definitely improved in that area last year but have a ways to go and obviously Stroud will help. Poz coming back and Mitchell coming in will too.
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Reportedly we signed DT Spencer Johnson from the Vikings as well to a 5 year contract. He would definitely be a UT. Interesting.
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The Bills and DT Spencer Johnson have reportedly agreed to terms on a five-year contract.
Johnson is a versatile player who has been Minnesota's third tackle behind the Williams behemoths the last few years. He could have some untapped potential, and should fit in Buffalo's tackle rotation. This could mean the Bills are dropping out of the Marcus Stroud bidding.

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Great, great signing. Gets a potentially elite player for an up and coming team. If he holds up and avoids injury concerns, a 3rd and a 5th is a steal. Great to get a defensive veteran player to start out the Trent Edwards era; aka young and upcoming team.

edit: D'oh!

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FOR A 3rd AND a 5th!!! Wow- Bills totally ripped them off. That means he was priced the same as Kris Jenkins and I would take Stroud over Jenkins in a second.
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We got both. Johnson is a UT and Stroud is a NT. Looks to be a solid rotation with Stroud, McCargo, Williams and Johnson.
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If you got both you guys made some nice moves. I wish we could have gotten a DT already.
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FOR A 3rd AND a 5th!!! Wow- Bills totally ripped them off. That means he was priced the same as Kris Jenkins and I would take Stroud over Jenkins in a second.
haha...your ignorance on Jaguars players is laughable..

Marcus Stroud is coming off microfracture surgery on his ankle and is on the down side of his career...he got outplayed by a rookie in Tony McDaniel (before McDaniel got injured) and is on the downside of his career...

it was a consensus among Jags fans that we wouldn't get more than a 4th for Stroud if anything at all...hell, there was talk of him being cut....I would say the Jags ripped the Bills off due to them getting the asking price for healthy DT's...
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My favorite Jaguar joining the enemy. :(

Now my jersey is obsolete... and will NOT be replaced by his new one hahaha...

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When healthy, Stroud's a force with better agility than given credit for (relative to the size). If healthy, the Bills get a good deal, giving up slightly less than the other teams. Adding Spencer Johnson is intriuing as well, giving them a 4 deep DT rotation. I would still start McCargo over Spencer, but we'll have to wait and see. McCargo was finally showing some flashes, and having a big boy like Marcus in there could help.

I'm assuming that the Bills felt decently comfortable about the medicals to make such a move.

As for the Jaguars, this point was going to come. That is, they weren't going to keep Stroud/Henderson there as a tandem forever and got solid play from others. They'll have some flexibility in the draft. They could bolt up for a DE and still have the ability to land a 2nd tier DT if they wanted. A lot of options.
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I am about 100% positive that right now with #11 the Bills go with Derrick Harvey or Phillip Merling.
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When healthy, Stroud's a force with better agility than given credit for (relative to the size). If healthy, the Bills get a good deal, giving up slightly less than the other teams. Adding Spencer Johnson is intriuing as well, giving them a 4 deep DT rotation. I would still start McCargo over Spencer, but we'll have to wait and see. McCargo was finally showing some flashes, and having a big boy like Marcus in there could help.

I'm assuming that the Bills felt decently comfortable about the medicals to make such a move.

As for the Jaguars, this point was going to come. That is, they weren't going to keep Stroud/Henderson there as a tandem forever and got solid play from others. They'll have some flexibility in the draft. They could bolt up for a DE and still have the ability to land a 2nd tier DT if they wanted. A lot of options.
the Jaguars now have two 3rds and three 5ths...that's a lot of ammo to work with...
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Originally Posted by Bills2083 View Post
I think we'll go with a CB at #11
I wouldn't rule out Harvey. He's a potentially better fit than anyone else. That said, I'd probably guess a CB like Talib right now, unless a WR shoots their way up.

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