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Old 09-14-2008, 04:56 PM    (permalink
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Some (not all) of you Packer fans are so far up your a**. It is so arrogant the way you all go on about Rodgers. I can't wait till the opener to see how he copes with the Vikes pass rush.
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How 'bout that Vikings pass rush. I mean Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, and Jared Allen, no way you can stop all three right? Haha, I've been waiting for so long to do this. We're the arrogant ones? All offseason we kept hearing how great the Vikings DL would be and how their pass rush would be unstoppable or how Minnesota was going to easily take the NFC North and be Super Bowl contenders. Well your DL got shut down against us and you're 0-2

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By the end of the season i realy do see Jackson and Rodgers making strides, but that is just speculation. I am actually a big fan of Rodgers, but Packer fans are so use to having thier QB position being a sure thing that they are realy not paying due respect to game experience and to claim him the best in the division is arrogant
Or maybe we were just right?

Rodgers
Orton
Kitna
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and I don't see it changing throughout the season.
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u need to give it time, Grossman looked like a MVP in 2006 the first 5 games
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u need to give it time, Grossman looked like a MVP in 2006 the first 5 games
that's true. But he looked like a complete amateur later on...
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Hello.

How 'bout that Vikings pass rush. I mean Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, and Jared Allen, no way you can stop all three right? Haha, I've been waiting for so long to do this. We're the arrogant ones? All offseason we kept hearing how great the Vikings DL would be and how their pass rush would be unstoppable or how Minnesota was going to easily take the NFC North and be Super Bowl contenders. Well your DL got shut down against us and you're 0-2

Or maybe we were just right?

Rodgers
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Jackson

and I don't see it changing throughout the season.
Rodgers looked amazing but he still more likely to end the season on IR than not.
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Orton is second? That's probably true, but it doesn't make it any less hilarious.
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Rodgers looked amazing but he still more likely to end the season on IR than not.
Why?......
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Well he has proved himself to be rather injury prone.
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Because he gets hurt a lot.
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Because he gets hurt a lot.
The only significant injury I remember was a broken foot two years ago.
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The only significant injury I remember was a broken foot two years ago.
If he gets injured that often in practice I wouldnt bank on him playing all 16 even if the injuries aren't related.
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If he gets injured that often in practice I wouldnt bank on him playing all 16 even if the injuries aren't related.
That often? He had a broken foot in 3 seasons. I remember another injury but they said he was only being held out as a precaution since there was no reason to risk his health.

Plus the guy hasn't even be hit yet this year.
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I think at this point I might take Jackson over Kitna. Now I might be overreacting, but still...
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Plus the guy hasn't even be hit yet this year.
Which of course means that he never will.
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Rodgers got hit today by White on the fumble. Rodgers moves incredibly well in the pocket though. Very good pocket presence. So far, he is playing mistake free football and at this point is the best in the North hands down. Rodgers has talent and McCarthy is a great coach(heck he made Aaron Brooks look good). Packers have a great start 2-0 in division. Long season thoguh and the Vikes and Bears both have a chance.

Lions and Kitna have regressed if thats even possible.
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If he gets injured that often in practice I wouldnt bank on him playing all 16 even if the injuries aren't related.
He didn't break his foot in practice. It happened in a game. It's ****** to judge a player on what he does coming in cold in the middle of a season.
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Best QB in the North? John David Booty.


BUT 2nd right now would be Rodgers.
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Rodgers hands down. I knew it all offseason, now I can back it up.
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He didn't break his foot in practice. It happened in a game. It's ****** to judge a player on what he does coming in cold in the middle of a season.
Getting hurt is getting hurt. I don't think anyone is judging him on his performance.
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Getting hurt is getting hurt. I don't think anyone is judging him on his performance.
Does the same logic apply to Tommie Harris. Maybe Johnny Jolly should be rated over Harris as Harris is "injury-prone". Not.

Rodgers has taken some hits when he's scrambled and when the very young and playing out of position offensive line has broken down. He's gotten right back up. He wasn't injured in HS or College, and has has a broken foot in the pros. I guess Tom Brady will fall to being the worst QB in his Division next year when he comes back from injury using this logic. And that QB in Philadelphia should just give it up to Kolb due to his injuries.

If Rodgers gets hurt, then he gets hurt. His performance over two games is heads and shoulders above the rest of the stiffs in the NFC North, which is reflected by the W-L records.
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Does the same logic apply to Tommie Harris. Maybe Johnny Jolly should be rated over Harris as Harris is "injury-prone". Not.

Rodgers has taken some hits when he's scrambled and when the very young and playing out of position offensive line has broken down. He's gotten right back up. He wasn't injured in HS or College, and has has a broken foot in the pros. I guess Tom Brady will fall to being the worst QB in his Division next year when he comes back from injury using this logic. And that QB in Philadelphia should just give it up to Kolb due to his injuries.

If Rodgers gets hurt, then he gets hurt. His performance over two games is heads and shoulders above the rest of the stiffs in the NFC North, which is reflected by the W-L records.
I don't think his comment was directed in terms of how he is ranked, it's just a pretty basic concern that Rodgers has a history of injuries. Any argument contrary is a case of protesting out of self interest. In other words, your **** is in a bind for no reason.

As a side note, I'm not really sure beating the Lions is a reflection of one's ability as a QB, or every QB in the NFL would be in the Hall of Fame.
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Rodgers got hit today by White on the fumble. Rodgers moves incredibly well in the pocket though. Very good pocket presence. So far, he is playing mistake free football and at this point is the best in the North hands down. Rodgers has talent and McCarthy is a great coach(heck he made Aaron Brooks look good). Packers have a great start 2-0 in division. Long season thoguh and the Vikes and Bears both have a chance.

Lions and Kitna have regressed if thats even possible.
See, i think kitna is still kitna. and that is everything the lions need to be slightly above mediocre offensively.
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I don't think his comment was directed in terms of how he is ranked, it's just a pretty basic concern that Rodgers has a history of injuries. Any argument contrary is a case of protesting out of self interest. In other words, your **** is in a bind for no reason.

As a side note, I'm not really sure beating the Lions is a reflection of one's ability as a QB, or every QB in the NFL would be in the Hall of Fame.
Is Tom Brady injury prone? What about Tommie Harris? Just because a guy breaks his foot once in 3 years and has one other minor injury doesn't make him injury-prone. It's a physical sport and a lot of it comes down to luck.
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Tommie harris and Tom Brady played alot longer and had less injury concerns. Mike Brown is injury prone. And Rodgers is def easier to get injuried than other QBs
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Tommie harris and Tom Brady played alot longer and had less injury concerns. Mike Brown is injury prone. And Rodgers is def easier to get injuried than other QBs
What are Rodger's injury concerns? That he broke his foot once? How is he "def easier to get injured than other QBs"?
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