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Old 03-05-2008, 12:38 PM    (permalink
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At first I thought for sure they would take Matt Ryan, then they had interest in Jake Long. Now they have little to no depth at DT since they let one of their best DT's go and another DT just got a serious injury.

This pick could go a number of ways. It could be Ryan, Long, Dorsey or Ellis IMO.

Falcons fans or anyone, what are your thoughts?
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i think there need at the Tackle is still way bigger need the Defensive Tackle
LT is one of the most important postion in the game so who ever there
qb will be will need to e protected so i cant see them passing on Long

also Derrick Johnson will never be Derrick Thomas your sig ...
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I have been saying Matt Ryan since November and I am sticking to it. Falcons fans were convinced they'd get McFadden as their "new face of the franchise" which seemed odd in countless fashions (scar) but Ryan simply makes too much sense here.

I don't see either DT going here....it's gonna be Ryan or Long.
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jake long if he's there. they just signed turner to a big contract and they need to give him some help. theyll draft a QB in round 2 so they have to give him some help too. long makes the most sense.

i think the difference in QB talent from round 1 to round 2 is smaller than the difference in OT talent from Long to Nicks/Baker or whoever the best OT available
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With a new OC in Mike Mularkey installing a power running game (Micheal Turner) if Jake Long is available he will be the pick we can go QB in the 2nd round or draft Brohm if he slips which is highly possible.
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I hope for Jake Long, I expect Matt Ryan.
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I think process of elimination makes their pick easier, Id probably say Jake Long and Matt Ryan are going to be rated higher then either DT, so whoever is left out of Ryan and Long will be the choice...I dont see any scenarios where they both would be on the board, so whoever is the guy there they take...I hope its Jake Long, I have always been high on Blalock and Long on the same side would be a great situation for any qb to walk into with some weapons on offense.
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It will almost certainly be any one of Long, Dorsey or Ryan. There won't be any hints from FA, unless they make a big time trade for a QB. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Well the Falcons just cut Harrington. It's looking more and more like Ryan to me
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Well the Falcons just cut Harrington. It's looking more and more like Ryan to me

I don't think it signals anything. He wasn't going to start even if he was on the team.

I'd like Dorsey or Long, but it's going to be Ryan.
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they could take long if he's there and trade up to the late middle of round 1 to take brohm if he's still up there with their 2 2nd rounders. or wait for henne or flacco
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Ok, they cut two of their potential starting QB's, their former starting QB is in jail and their current starting QB is Chris Redman BUT, they cut their premier, former pro-bowl starting DT, another one of their DT's is injured, and their head coach is a former defensive coordinator for one of the most dominants DL's in a while BUT, their offensive line sucks.

WTF??????????
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It all depends on the Pro Days. Whomever grades out the highest after that I'll figure they'll take, considering the great need at all three positions. Also depends on how the 2nd round prospects grade out to see what kind of value they could get then. Whether they take a QB in the first or the second, that same sort of pressure will be there, so I don't think it really matters in that sense. If Dorsey proves to be healthy and really impresses at his Pro Day, I would expect him over the other two, however.
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As of now, I don't expect Matt Ryan to be on the board at 3. If he is, I think that's the route they go. I also don't expect Dimitroff to deal up, unless it's a good deal.

There seems to be some rumblings that the Rams may still look Jake Long, but I doubt that. Thus, I think it's going to come down to Jake Long or Glenn Dorsey, with the decision perhaps coming down to Dorsey's medicals. If they are good, my guess is that they'll go Dorsey to build that D. Both the Patriots and the Jaguars were not organizations that drafted OL in the first that often. Granted, Mangini and the Jets doubled up on OL, but in this case, it's a scout from the Patriots, and not a coach. Big difference.

That said, it's close, and if Dorsey's medicals are in any way worrisome, then it's probably Long.

Still some time to go, although I think the top teams all have rough ideas of what they wish to do.
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Ok, they cut two of their potential starting QB's, their former starting QB is in jail and their current starting QB is Chris Redman BUT, they cut their premier, former pro-bowl starting DT, another one of their DT's is injured, and their head coach is a former defensive coordinator for one of the most dominants DL's in a while BUT, their offensive line sucks.

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lol...way to clear up the situation and answer the guys question. That was one of the funnier posts ive read in a whille.
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As of now, I don't expect Matt Ryan to be on the board at 3. If he is, I think that's the route they go. I also don't expect Dimitroff to deal up, unless it's a good deal.

There seems to be some rumblings that the Rams may still look Jake Long, but I doubt that. Thus, I think it's going to come down to Jake Long or Glenn Dorsey, with the decision perhaps coming down to Dorsey's medicals. If they are good, my guess is that they'll go Dorsey to build that D. Both the Patriots and the Jaguars were not organizations that drafted OL in the first that often. Granted, Mangini and the Jets doubled up on OL, but in this case, it's a scout from the Patriots, and not a coach. Big difference.

That said, it's close, and if Dorsey's medicals are in any way worrisome, then it's probably Long.

Still some time to go, although I think the top teams all have rough ideas of what they wish to do.
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i know this is obvious, no matter which way they go (dorsey/ellis, long or ryan) they're still going to have huge holes at the positions they did not address, and they will have to take care of those holes with their 2nd round picks (at least barring a BPA scenario they can't pass up).

at the same time, if ryan's on the board, I don't think they can pass him up for several reasons. while any other year, he likely wouldn't be the first quarterback taken, and you can debate all you want about his decision making, but you can't deny his character and leadership skills. i know first hand that ryan spends a lot of time helping out with volunteer organizations on campus and is one of our only guys that doesn't clown around at all. with the vick fiasco, i don't think they can pass on a high character leader at that position.

moreover, mularkey is a former QB, and with some coaching, i think ryan can become an above average starting QB. granted, with the third overall you should get a superstar, but we all know those a few and far between.
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PLease dont take ellis. I want the raiders to take him.
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Ok, they cut two of their potential starting QB's, their former starting QB is in jail and their current starting QB is Chris Redman BUT, they cut their premier, former pro-bowl starting DT, another one of their DT's is injured, and their head coach is a former defensive coordinator for one of the most dominants DL's in a while BUT, their offensive line sucks.

WTF??????????

Rod Coleman was making a bunch of money, and couldn't stay on the field.
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I dont think the Falcons should take Dorsey at 3 if those injury concerns are legit, they need the safest pick possible in the 1st rd, the last thing they need to worry about is this first pick not panning out and setting them back even more...
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I dont think the Falcons should take Dorsey at 3 if those injury concerns are legit, they need the safest pick possible in the 1st rd, the last thing they need to worry about is this first pick not panning out and setting them back even more...

He could still be a great pick. If Jamaal Anderson plays decent, our D-Line becomes very nice.
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I have been saying Matt Ryan since November and I am sticking to it. Falcons fans were convinced they'd get McFadden as their "new face of the franchise" which seemed odd in countless fashions (scar) but Ryan simply makes too much sense here.

I don't see either DT going here....it's gonna be Ryan or Long.
I wouldn't bet on it.

Our new GM has publicly criticized the idea of taking a QB with a top 5 pick.

You doubt we go DT yet our new defensive coordinator came from a team where the staple of their defense was a pair of stud DTs in Stroud and Henderson.

We have a new GM that came from the Pats franchise that started their dynasty in the draft by getting Richard Seymour (followed by Matt Light).


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Based on merit, Ryan wouldn't sniff the first round in ANY draft.

Based on hype he's going to be a top 10 pick.

Character and leadership skills? Warrick Dunn has high character and great leadership skills but he can't play the game of football anymore or at least not at a high level.

It's unlikely Matt Ryan will EVER play it at a high level because poor decision making skills and average physical tools completely negate these so called intangibles that everyone is trying to sell.

It doesn't matter how much charisma Matt Ryan has in a huddle or on the sidelines if he's constantly throwing the ball to the opposing team.
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Maybe ATL should trade their first to Dallas for their 2 firsts and get Ryan and a DT. I bet Ryan would still be available by then
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I have been saying Matt Ryan since November and I am sticking to it. Falcons fans were convinced they'd get McFadden as their "new face of the franchise" which seemed odd in countless fashions (scar) but Ryan simply makes too much sense here.

I don't see either DT going here....it's gonna be Ryan or Long.
it's gonna be Dorsey then Long than Ryan.
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