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Old 03-09-2007, 01:13 PM    (permalink
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This is getting very interesting for what miami will do in the draft because of what is going on in FA.

For example with the signing of Traylor back and the belief in evans that has been talked about makes it seem like we will not be looking for a NT (coupled with the lack of truly great NT's in the draft).

With the resigning of Holliday and the stated Roth starting that makes the DE position less of a need (branch/okoye/carriker, etc etc)

Porter coupled with JT makes it so any OLB drafted will not be starting for a few years at least, except in a backup role.

Now with the rumors of perhaps getting stallworth would make it so that we would see less of a need there.

It may very well come down to LT, OG, QB, CB/S (depending on their belief of what position is best to use J allen at).

Of course we need to factor in the fact that BPA should over-ride need in most cases anyways.

I would not be surprised honestly anymore if Landry would become the first pick of the dolphins. For a while back (months actually) I was deadset against such a move because the idea of taking 2 safeties back to back (my consideration the least fuctional position on the defense) is like drafting a kicker in the first two rounds.

With 3 picks in the 1st 60 we should be able to address Oline, secondary, QB all on day one.

Really I think the needs of this team are in flux very much right now it will be interesting to see within a month(s) time (for the draft) where we will end up.

Landry
Kalil
Staley
Edwards

for a possible 1st day draft?
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Staley won't last to our second second rounder, and he might not last to our first pick.
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His pro day was that good?
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Landry in the 1st followed by Kalil in the 2nd is what I'm crossing my fingers for..
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Staley's stock has been higher than our pick since the season ended. He's always been a late 1/early 2 guy.
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Who do you guys want at #9? CB or DL?
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Who do you guys want at #9? CB or DL?
We really aren't in a need for d-linemen, with Roth and Holliday at DEs and Traylor and Evans at DT. I would much rather see us take a CB like Hall, Houston or Revis and if Allen decides to move to CB then Landry would be the pick. I could also definetly see a trade down. I'll tell you this, the Dolphin's pick will be one of the hardest to predict.
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Unless it's Gaines Adams we don't need DL. CB is a bit of a reach but it is an area of need.
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You have to go BPA and that is simply Landry.
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So what is the deal with Allen? Is he a CB or is he a safety? Be objective in your response . . . don't decide based on whether or not you want Landry or Hall/Houston, therefore making Allen the opposite . . . the team's decision on which position he plays best will determine whether they go CB or S.

I see Allen as more of a safety personally, and I think that Leon Hall is the way to go. Landry could very well be gone at 9 though, making the choice easier . . .
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what are the chances you guys take okoye?

dont take landry!!!
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what are the chances you guys take okoye?

dont take landry!!!
Don't see it happening since we brought back both Holliday and Traylor. DT is a postion that I think we will address in the middle rounds of the draft.

Same goes with Safety. We already got Bell, Hill and Allen there. It would be a waste to draft one with our 1st pick.
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So what is the deal with Allen? Is he a CB or is he a safety? Be objective in your response . . . don't decide based on whether or not you want Landry or Hall/Houston, therefore making Allen the opposite . . . the team's decision on which position he plays best will determine whether they go CB or S.

I see Allen as more of a safety personally, and I think that Leon Hall is the way to go. Landry could very well be gone at 9 though, making the choice easier . . .
Allen is a safety right now. There is only speculation about him going to CB.
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Are you guys thinking about Carriker at all at #9?
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I don't think so. It wouldn't make any sense with Matt Roth on the team.
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Ideal draft would obviously be to trade out of the number 9 spot, but with what the PHINS have right now this is what I am hoping for:

1st: Landry
2nd A: Blalock
2nd B: Stanton
3rd: Aundrae Allison

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maybe a cb in rd 1. other than that, its good
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Now that they have traded Welker, I don't know how you cannot draft Ginn at number 9. They willingly traded basically the only qualified returner on the team and the number one wideout. We got two WR's in last year's draft, but neither of them have gotten much playing time. If Culpepper is going to be as good as he was in 2003, and we all hope he will be, we're going to need a super fast receiver to stretch the field. Culpepper has major arm strength and for him to be effective that has to be utilized. No one currently on the roster can do that.

As for the second round, as was really hoping for Mason Crosby. But with the signing of Feely it doesn't look like that is going to happen. It looks like that's going to be the best OG available. We cut BOTH starting guards from last year and have yet to sign someone to fill either spot. There are three Guards that are graded with a low 1/high 2 grade and at least one should still be there at our pick. In my opinion, that will most likely be Grubbs.

With our pick from NE in the second round, that could go just about anywhere, but I'm pretty sure that it will NOT go to a QB. We've invested too much in Culpepper. If he's healthy he's the guy, no question. Plus it looks like Cameron really likes Cleo Lemon. We originally acquired him from SD in the A.J. Feely trade, and Cameron seemed to be pretty fond of him there.
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Now that they have traded Welker, I don't know how you cannot draft Ginn at number 9. They willingly traded basically the only qualified returner on the team and the number one wideout. We got two WR's in last year's draft, but neither of them have gotten much playing time. If Culpepper is going to be as good as he was in 2003, and we all hope he will be, we're going to need a super fast receiver to stretch the field. Culpepper has major arm strength and for him to be effective that has to be utilized. No one currently on the roster can do that.

As for the second round, as was really hoping for Mason Crosby. But with the signing of Feely it doesn't look like that is going to happen. It looks like that's going to be the best OG available. We cut BOTH starting guards from last year and have yet to sign someone to fill either spot. There are three Guards that are graded with a low 1/high 2 grade and at least one should still be there at our pick. In my opinion, that will most likely be Grubbs.

With our pick from NE in the second round, that could go just about anywhere, but I'm pretty sure that it will NOT go to a QB. We've invested too much in Culpepper. If he's healthy he's the guy, no question. Plus it looks like Cameron really likes Cleo Lemon. We originally acquired him from SD in the A.J. Feely trade, and Cameron seemed to be pretty fond of him there.
Thank god your not our GM haha.. I think Ginn at 9 and Crosby at 40 would be one of the worst drafts we can have.

Although I like Ginn, it's way too early for him and we can get better value
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The Dolphins do not think highly of former Penn State left tackle Levi Brown, who is thought to be the second-best available left tackle. They are, however, impressed with Joe Staley, the Central Michigan product who is thought to be a late first-round or early second-round selection.
I really hope that is true. I wouldn't mind us trading up into the late first to grab Staley. Toonster also mentioned trading back to 16 with GB, than trading back again and picking up Staley. I would love for that to happen but it doesn't seem very likely. I really hope the Brown part is true though. I don't want him anywhere near a Dolphins jersey.
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I really hope that is true. I wouldn't mind us trading up into the late first to grab Staley. Toonster also mentioned trading back to 16 with GB, than trading back again and picking up Staley. I would love for that to happen but it doesn't seem very likely. I really hope the Brown part is true though. I don't want him anywhere near a Dolphins jersey.
I was thinking something similar. I saw this a couple of hours ago and I thought, maybe trade down to the Packers at 16 so they can draft Lynch while also picking up their 2nd. Then use their 2nd or ours and trade back into the late 1st round and that way we can pick up a CB or a WR with the 16th pick and then Staley with the late 1st round pick.
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I really hope that is true. I wouldn't mind us trading up into the late first to grab Staley. Toonster also mentioned trading back to 16 with GB, than trading back again and picking up Staley. I would love for that to happen but it doesn't seem very likely. I really hope the Brown part is true though. I don't want him anywhere near a Dolphins jersey.
That kind of makes me uneasy as there is a good chance it's a smokescreen.. I'd say it's more of a smokescreen than true at the moment..

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I have been saying trade back for GB for a while. It would give the value of a 2nd rounder for us.


As for Carriker I dont like the pick at all, a top 10 pick needs to be an impact player with good potential and one that can start from day 1. Drafting Carriker is drafting a backup to start out (Roth and Holliday start at DE in the 3-4 system).

I do like Scotts picks in the 2nd and 3rd as Oline for houck to work with and a QB prospect to build up. :)

AS for Landry I like him, I wish Phillips was in this draft but since he is not Landry is by far the best DB in the draft.
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I like both 2nd rounders but I don't like the 1 or 3. Harris is terrible. Carriker makes no sense to me.
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laron landry in first and sidney rice in 2nd plz..
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