DeAngelo Hall traded to Raiders per ESPN - Page 5

Raiderz4Life · 03-15-2008, 06:14 PM

he can have 31

nvot9 · 03-15-2008, 06:14 PM

Everyone's saying what happens with Aso, but why would anything happen? Didn't they franchise him and therefore have him locked up for at least one year? Are you guys talking about in the future what happens to him or what?

619 · 03-15-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nvot9

Everyone's saying what happens with Aso, but why would anything happen? Didn't they franchise him and therefore have him locked up for at least one year? Are you guys talking about in the future what happens to him or what?

Yes, the future. I for one am concerned about one of our franchise players bolting after one more year. If Aso gets an extension then Al looks like a genius.

Xonraider · 03-15-2008, 06:18 PM

Please Al, keep Asomugha... letting him go would be a humongous mistake.

Paranoidmoonduck · 03-15-2008, 06:24 PM

Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt are still both in their rookie contract, but Washington's is heftier and has more guaranteed money in it. That would seem to indicate that if one gets dealt, it would be Routt. Routt supplanted Washington last year for the starting job opposite Scrabble, but Washington responded well and probably played better down the stretch than Routt.

For no other reason than profile, Oakland could probably get more for Washington, but I'm not sure how financially feasible it is. There's a chance Oakland hangs onto all of their corners for this year, especially if they enter the season without giving Asomugha a new contract.

Wootylicous · 03-15-2008, 06:30 PM

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

Hall denies trade to the Raiders.

iloxygenil · 03-15-2008, 06:32 PM

Okay...Falcons fan here...

I know this move hurts, but honestly I don't understand how we got only a 2nd round pick out of him...but with 4 picks in the top 50...that's pretty impressive. The thing that I'm looking at in this deal is addition by subtraction, our cap # will be not sucked up by 1 big player, and I think that's more the direction this team is headed. Try to spread it out a bit and make the TEAM better. I think that Jimmy Williams will now be a cornerback again, and in the cover 2 scheme our DBs are better suited for it and our secondary may actually look better this year because of the scheme itself.

CB - Houston
CB - Williams
FS - Coleman
SS - Milloy / Stone
NCB - Irons / Von Hutchins

So we're short on depth, but the fit for the scheme seems even better than what we had with Hall. I don't know if we'll be using early round picks on CBs...or Safeties...and we still don't know what the scheme is going to be, but it looks more like a cover2 than what we have been running. If so there may be some movement in the linebacking corps as well.

I'm not unhappy, I think the team will be better, but I thought we'd be getting more than just a 2nd round pick.

iloxygenil · 03-15-2008, 06:34 PM

Well...looks like I may have gotten excited too soon, but hopefully he'll be going for something more...Huff + 2nd rounder would make me happier =)

Yatta! · 03-15-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wo_oT88

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

Hall denies trade to the Raiders.

Ohhh here we go again. This is crazy, if the Raiders manage to get Asomugha locked up eventually then the trade is a great move for them.

d34ng3l021 · 03-15-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wo_oT88

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

Hall denies trade to the Raiders.

Wttttttffffff plot twist!?

jetsfan0099 · 03-15-2008, 06:38 PM

How are the Raiders affording all of this??? They went out and gave big money to Gibril Wilson, they gave a huge contract to Javon Walker, they gave a HUGE deal to Tommy Kelly, now they trade for D-Hall who will demand a MAJOR deal. They took a QB last year 1st overall, he has a big contract. Now they are talking about Aso getting a Long term?? He is going to require a LARGE contract also. How are they paying all these players these contracts??? How are they going to afford a 4th overall selection?? They need to trade down now. This is crazy, I see a future cap hell team, maybe a team hoping too much on a non cap year??

619 · 03-15-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wo_oT88

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

Hall denies trade to the Raiders.

One more reason to wait til this thing is official.

Toneloc498 · 03-15-2008, 06:49 PM

Hey Al, trade Asomugha to the Giants for the 31st pick... K thanks

OregonDucks · 03-15-2008, 06:50 PM

He a nut case, we dont want him in oakland. hes good and all but we need good character guys.

GB12 · 03-15-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

Something to keep in mind is that Hall and Asomugha given longterm contract probably wouldn't hurt the cap as much as just Asomugha with the exclusive tag.

I'm sure one of the sticking points to Hall's contract is that the Raiders want to get Asomugha under contract as well. Keep in mind that signing Hall to big money makes Asomugha's tag number go up as well because Hall would likely be in the top 5 paid CBs.

It wouldn't affect the tag at all. Those numbers are set prior to the start of the offseason.

Paranoidmoonduck · 03-15-2008, 06:51 PM

Hall denying the trade is interesting, especially after NFL Network said he had a meeting with Al, Kiffin, and Ryan. I'm going to assume that compensation still hasn't been worked out, and Oakland may end up giving up more than just this year's second rounder.

619 · 03-15-2008, 06:51 PM

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He a nut case, we dont want him in oakland. hes good and all but we need good character guys.

What are you talking about? I want D-Hall you nuts? Especially for a second.

OregonDucks · 03-15-2008, 06:56 PM

Well skill wise I want him as well, Im just hoping he doesnt act like a total nut case like he is...thats all. Other than that bring him in. I also watched the nfl network thing on him and he talked to all our staff, and now he is denying it? cmon.

adamprez2003 · 03-15-2008, 07:00 PM

Well the Raiders better draft Dorsey or Ellis now because noone is going to pass on them

Splat · 03-15-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Did the Raiders really need to acquire Hall to match him up against Craig Daivs and Sammie Parker?

They fear Dwayne Bowe as they should.:)

Geo · 03-15-2008, 07:23 PM

Schefter's full article

Paranoidmoonduck · 03-15-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Schefter

Yet, the Raiders have been more aggressive than any team in football this offseason, doling out $144 million in guaranteed money to defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, wide receiver Javon Walker and safety Gibril Wilson.

Guh...Huh?

I count 50 million Adam.

LonghornsLegend · 03-15-2008, 07:38 PM

Prime example of how fans will over rate a players stock, if you would of told a Falcons fan Hall would be traded for a 2nd rd pick they would of went crazy, but the contract signing was the big thing, a team had to agree to that also...Otherwise Dallas would of taken that offer with the 28th, but dont think we wanted to pay another corner that much, im fine passing him up.

BlindSite · 03-15-2008, 07:40 PM

Draft picks are so over valued.

Here we've got a probowl calibre cornerback who is literally a top 15 in the NFL who's only worth a second rounder? A pick which isn't going to yield a player who an make Hall's sort of impact.

Splat · 03-15-2008, 07:41 PM

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Prime example of how fans will over rate a players stock.

Tell me about it if I had a dollar for every Chiefs fan that thought we could have got the moon for LJ last year I would be a rich man. The draft is so huge and draft picks are like your own kids you just don't want to give them up.