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Lions... Calvin dropped a crapload of balls and didn't look like the guy out of Georgia Tech. but then again wideouts take a while to adjust. Drew Stanton managed to make IR... Ikaika Alama-Francis is too raw to really analyze yet. Gerald Alexander looks like he's good value at safety, but I think we cut everyone else.

Not so hot, but with Millen making the picks what can you expect?
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Rd.2 pick 36 | QB Kevin Kolb | N/A | Was the 3rd string QB for the most part, will be the #2 this year, looked very solid during preseason. Still haven't seen enough to grade.

Rd.2 pick 57 | DE Victor Abiamir | B- | Looked very solid during playing time, but didn't do anything special, should get a chance to start this year.

Rd.3 pick 87 | LB Stewart Bradley | A | Most promising pick by far of all, is going to be our starting MLB for years to come, has probowl potential. Great value too.

Rd.3 pick 90 | RB Tony Hunt | C- | Was given the chance to be our short yardage back but I believe he averaged like 1 yard a carry, hopefully he gets it together but he hasn't looked good yet.

Rd.5 pick 159 | S CJ Gaddis | F | Cut before season.

Rd.5 pick 162 | TE Brent Celek | B+ | Great value pick, was 3rd among rookie TEs in terms of receptions, possibly a future starter.

Rd. 6 pick 201 | CB Rashad Barksdale | F | Cut before season.

Rd. 7 pick 236 | RB Nate Ilaoa | F | Cut before season.

Overall - C+, a few promising players but a bunch of misses as well. Pretty average.
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Even after all the negativity, Miami ended up with a solid all around draft.

1.) Ted Ginn Jr. (C+): Would have had 3 KRs for TDs if not for a couple holding penalties that were away from the play. Progressed well as the season went on and did a solid job stepping in after Chambers was dealt. Should be a game breaking KR with some help blocking for him this season and he needs to polish himself as a WR but he did show alot of promise and the progress over the season was encouraging.

2a.) John Beck (INC.): Started off ok and then the OL gave way and Beck snapped to the pressure. Looked like a typical rookie QB. Way too early to judge.

2b.) Samson Satele (A+): Started every game at center and did a very good job. Handled everything the way you would expect from a vet. He will take a larger role in protection calls this season but he has the makings of a 10-12 year staple in the middle of the Dolphins OL.

3.) Lorenzo Booker (B-): Took him awhile to get on the field every with injuries to Ronnie and Chatman. But once he got there he really lit it up. He is not a good between the tackles runner but was lights out in the open field and really broke some ankles to get extra yards and move the chains. He should be a very good passing situation RB and a guy we could split wide. Opens up different options for us on offense.

4.) Paul Soliai (D-): Got into a bunch of games but had trouble beating our prennial PS player Steve Fifita. He looked really over matched out there and will have to some something soon or risk being toss out by the new regime.

6a.) Drew Mormino (INC.): Showed a ton of promise in TC and even earned tons of reps as the starting LG. He looked like a real steal until he went down for the year with an injury before the 1st game of the season. Should be able to become a solid backup OG and C at the least but he'll have to bounce back from the injury before he gets a real grade.

6b.) Reagan Mauia (C+): Started the entire season at FB and showed some promise. Had some mental lapses at times misses some blocks and taking on the wrong guy. However he has only played the position a couple years and should turn into a solid with some coaching. He was an effective blocker once he locked on but he had trouble finding the right guy to block at times. Also showed some toughness playing with a broken hand and showed he can be a short yardage weapon in the passing game with some nice footwork and big frame. Will be pushed in camp but should be able to hold down a roster spot to see if he can tap into that massive potential.

7a.)Kelvin Smith (F): Did nothing in TC and was on the practice squad all season. Not sure how he even held on a PS job as there were numerous UDFAs that outplayed him. Should not be on the roster this season.

7b.) Abe Wright (INC.): Spent the year on IR but showed alot of promise with his pass rush skills. Was the rave of TC last season and many thought he was going to have a pretty substantial impact on the season. Should get a shot to battle Quentin Moses for one of the backup OLB spots but has to show something on STs to stick around. Too early to call what will happen here.

7c.) Brandon Fields (A): Did a solid job punting for us last season. Has a big leg and huge upside. Needs to work on getting the ball off quicker and getting more consistentcy but he showed he had what it took to punt for the Dolphins for the next decade. Solid pickup.

Overall, not too shabby. Ginn, Satele, Booker, Mauia and Fields all showed enough promise to think they could contribute to this team with Fields, Ginn and Satele all likely locked into starting jobs in the future. All in all not a bad showing. If Mormino and Wright bounce back strong and Mauia and Beck continue to develop, this could turn into a really really good draft.

The onyl real busts appear to be Soliai and Smith.

I'd give it a solid B- overall with room to improve. Although we all know is not out of the realm for some players to regress, but there is still alot to be excited about with our last draft.
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1.) S Michael Griffin - looks like a star in the making....a true playmaker. Funs like a corner, but hits like a safety. He was an immediate standout on ST, and when he finally broke into the lineup halfway through the season, he ended up with three INT's and at least one forced fumble, along with some very solid plays in coverage. I haven't been this impressed with a young safety since Bob Sanders.
He really is a beast out there, great instincts and can play centerfielder deep or lock onto a wr, and when he has to will come up and jar the ball loose, he is going to blossom into one of the best safeties in the game if he continues to improve...Sad thing is Huff is everything Griffin is with a little better instincts and faster, and he should be playing the same type of role for a team that Griffin is doing, instead he's up near the LOS taking on tight ends.

But i do love Griffin, always was a standout ST beast at UT and he just has a knack for the ball.
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Baltimore's 2007 Draft Class:

1) Ben Grubbs - A - Solid Starter for years to come.

3) Marshal Yanda - B- - Stepped up with all the injuries to the team. Versatile as well.

3b) Yamon Figurs - B - Showed flashes of some great returning ability.

4) LeRon McClain - B - Solid Starter at Fullback.

4b) Antwan Barnes - B - Solid flashes of the potential that Ozzie sees in him. Should be able really challenge Jarret Johnson at the starting position next season, but then again the coaching staff might use him as a DE.

5) Troy Smith - A+ - Easily the best QB on the roster. Showed at the end of the season that he can lead this team.

6) Prescott Burgess - incomplete - Injured for most the season. But showed the potential he had during the preseason. He'll be a project that can eventually become a starter.

5b) Jared Gaither - B - Played only in a few games. But in those few games, he showed that he's the heir for JO.
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I would say D becouse of P.Thomas but that is the only good thing out of or draft.
Pierre Thomas wasn't even drafted, so I give the Saints a F-, only because I don't think you can go lower. Completely wasted basically every pick. I would have preferred trading them for meth to get Charles Grants fat blob butt(not sure if the A word is allowed) in motion. At least if he was tweaking he would have something pushing him to move.
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Bucs Draft

1) Gaines Adams- A- Started off slow, but improved every week. Looks like he will be a future stud. Just the kind of DE we needed to replace Rice.

2) Aron Sears- A- Questionable pick at first, but turned out to be the bucs best offensive lineman this year. Should be a stud in the future.

2. Sabby Piscatelli- D- Got injured, sucked when he played, hopefully can provide future depth, although doesnt have much of a future with the team considering Phillips' resurgence

3. Quincy Black-C- Solid Special teamer. Has tons of potential and can hopefully be brooks' replacement

4. Tanard Jackson- A+- an absolute stud. I expect him to be the best safety from the class

5.Greg Peterson-C- Definately a project, could be a very good UT in the future.

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Of 2007 or in Brown's history?
Of 2007. Just IMO from what I've seen though.

2 starting CBs, a pro bowl left tackle, and a franchise QB who - if he doesn't become our QB of the future will at least be traded for a first round pick or its equivalent.
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Bengals Draft...

1.) Leon Hall - CB

Aside from a few shaky moments, he was really solid. I believe he had 5 picks, but more importantly he took Deltha O'Neal's starting spot.

2.) Kenny Irons - RB

Bengal fans hated this pick, as it wasn't a need. He tore his ACL in the first preseason game against the Lions. Word is that his ACL is healing slower than they expected. Not good. What's worse for Kenny is that his roster spot is in serious jeopardy. Rudi Johnson is bulking up to his old form, Kenny Watson was great when called upon, Chris Perry is finally healthy, and Dede Dorsey was a bright spot towards the end of the year. It certainly doesn't help matters that they're looking to draft another RB this year.

3.) Used on Ahmad Brooks in the supplemental draft.

He was injured last year, but this kid is going to be a monster in 08.

4.) Marvin White - S

Looked really good towards the end of the year. I guess that he's the starter now that Madieu Williams is gone.

5.) Jeff Rowe - QB

Wasted pick. He looked good in preseason, but, thankfully, never saw any action. He'll have to battle Carson's little brother for a spot on this years team.

6.) Matt Toeaina - DT

They drafted this guy as a project. He had a great preseason. He even had one of the more entertaining TD returns I've ever witnessed. But for some stupid reason, the Bengals left him vulnerable on the Practice Squad. The Chicago Bears snatched him up.

7.) Dan Santucci - G

I believe the Bengals have moved him to Center.

7.) Chinedum Ndukwe - S

Total steal. Seems like the guy made at least one big play in every game that he played in. He's expected to be the starter in 08 - pushing Dexter Jackson out of the way. Great, great job by the Bengals scouting department.

Overall, not a bad draft. As much flask as the Bengals defense got last season, it did improve down the stretch. A big reason for that was because of the three guys from this draft (Hall, White, Ndukwe).

But it's important that you don't put too much in one year. Heck, the Bengals had one of the best drafts ever in 2001 now that we look back at it. But had you graded it in 2002, it would have looked like a bad one. Because Justin Smith had a great rookie year, but never had that success again. Whereas guys like Chad Johnson, Rudi Johnson, and TJ Houshmanzadeh were non-factors their rookie years in 2001.

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The best first day picks was by the Bills.

Marshawn Lync- Absolute beast. He is going to be amazing for years to come.

Paul Posluszny- Lead our team in tackles before he got injured. Just is a tackling machine.

Trent Edwards- Smart and accurate QB. Going to be our starter.
You're homering a bit on those descriptions there... Especially Lynch. He was good, yes. Absolute beast? Not so much.
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2007 1 16 Justin Harrell DT - C+
2007 2 63 Brandon Jackson RB - C-
2007 3 78 James Jones WR - B+
2007 3 89 Aaron Rouse S - B
2007 4 119 Allen Barbre T/G - C-
2007 5 157 David Clowney WR - F
2007 6 191 Korey Hall FB - A
2007 6 192 Desmond Bishop LB - C-
2007 6 193 Mason Crosby K - A-
2007 7 228 DeShawn Wynn RB - C+
2007 7 243 Clark Harris TE - F

Looks about right I think, 9 of 11 players still here. A couple players were already solid contributers this year and will have bigger roles next year. Some were hard to give a grade because we havent really seen alot of them yet.
For the most part i agree, but the Harrell pick looks way better since williams is gone to cleveland.
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For the most part i agree, but the Harrell pick looks way better since williams is gone to cleveland.
Why? That doesn't make Harrell any more or less of a good player, it just means he has less competition now. At best Harrell is an incomplete right now, as he's essentially done nothing.
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6.) Matt Toeaina - DT

They drafted this guy as a project. He had a great preseason. He even had one of the more entertaining TD returns I've ever witnessed. But for some stupid reason, the Bengals left him vulnerable on the Practice Squad. The Chicago Bears snatched him up.
The funny thing is that Toeaina came in and immediately played great, much better than the waste of space Darwin Walker, and the buzz is that he's not likely to make the team next year. I don't get it.
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1. Darrelle Revis - A+
Arguably the best CB in the AFC East and only had one or two rough games after starting since week one. Played well against some of the league's top receivers and completely shut down Randy Moss.

2. David Harris - A+
This is from a value standpoint as it was made clear that this guy should have been a top-15 pick. While he didn't start immediately, he always made solid contributions coming off the bench. When he finally did start, he looked like a veteran All-Pro.

3. Jacob Bender - C
Inactive most of the regular season, but played really well during the pre-season. I expect him to be in our future plans at RT or LG, but for now he's nothing more than a reserve.

4. Chansi Stuckey - Incomplete
Was placed on IR early.
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1. LaRon Landry - A+: Everything that he was in college, translated to the pros. He covers sideline to sideline, and can run up to the line and stop the run. He's the new focal point of our defense.

5. Dallas Sartz - E+: Made a few plays in preseason, got hurt, put on IR, I believe the Vikings just picked him up though.

5. H.B. Blades - B-: A great special teamer so far, he led the preseason last year in tackles. He will be the future replacement to London Fletcher, but this year he could see some action at OLB due to McIntosh's injury. He's a capable starter in the NFL. On paper, his measurables aren't that good, but this dude knows how to play football.

6: Jordan Palmer - E+: Uhh, he's related to Carson Palmer? Other than that, he got beat in camp by UDFA Sam Hollenbech from UMD

7: Tyler Ecker - E : Still on the roster, big body, didn't do much in preseason and was on the practice squad most of the season.
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1. LaRon Landry - A+: Everything that he was in college, translated to the pros. He covers sideline to sideline, and can run up to the line and stop the run. He's the new focal point of our defense.

5. Dallas Sartz - E+: Made a few plays in preseason, got hurt, put on IR, I believe the Vikings just picked him up though.

5. H.B. Blades - B-: A great special teamer so far, he led the preseason last year in tackles. He will be the future replacement to London Fletcher, but this year he could see some action at OLB due to McIntosh's injury. He's a capable starter in the NFL. On paper, his measurables aren't that good, but this dude knows how to play football.

6: Jordan Palmer - E+: Uhh, he's related to Carson Palmer? Other than that, he got beat in camp by UDFA Sam Hollenbech from UMD

7: Tyler Ecker - E : Still on the roster, big body, didn't do much in preseason and was on the practice squad most of the season.
I have never seen "E" grades before.
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I do have to say that i thought that Atlanta Falcon's draft was the best immediately following the draft.
Outside of Jamaal Anderson it was pretty good. Chris Houston struggled, but rookie cornerbacks generally do. Blalock played fine, and every draft pick except maybe Doug Datish made the team. Six drafted players started at least one game I believe. Almost all of the drafted players have a chance to start this year.

Should be a good class.
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Revis - Best CB in a class full of good CBs. This guy looks like a shutdown corner in the making.

Harris - Monster ILB. He's 1B to Willis' 1A.

Bender and Stuckey are solid, developmental guys with pretty good talent.

What I love most is that besides Stewart Bradley I wasn't really a big fan of most of this draft that would have been available to us if we never moved up to pick who we picked. Sure we missed out on guys like Woodley and Bowe, but we would have missed out on them had we stayed put anyway.

Revis and Harris are going to be stars though...
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I have never seen "E" grades before.
E for effort maybe? Regardless, Ecker sucks.
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Outside of Jamaal Anderson it was pretty good. Chris Houston struggled, but rookie cornerbacks generally do. Blalock played fine, and every draft pick except maybe Doug Datish made the team. Six drafted players started at least one game I believe. Almost all of the drafted players have a chance to start this year.

Should be a good class.
i meant like right after, i thought it was going to be the best, still has potential though.
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Some of you (ie: almost all of you) are being huge homers. Not that that's suprising, but there are way too many A's. Yes some of those picks are good, but an A should usually be reserved for a pick where they just nailed it, and those are much more rare.
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You're homering a bit on those descriptions there... Especially Lynch. He was good, yes. Absolute beast? Not so much.
Yeah the little kid in me got out a little bit........ But Lynch would never go done on first contact. After all he say's he goes into Beast Mode when he has the ball.
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