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Old 03-24-2008, 08:07 AM    (permalink
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This is false cause my helmet fits just fine and my hair is pretty long.
I'm glad to know you play in the NFL, and have extremly long hair that you could be tackled by or have dredlocks that prevent you're helmet from fitting properly.

AJ Hawk also has long hair, but I'm willing to bet his hair fits in his helmet a wee better than Amani Toomer's did.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:33 AM    (permalink
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I'm glad to know you play in the NFL, and have extremly long hair that you could be tackled by or have dredlocks that prevent you're helmet from fitting properly.

AJ Hawk also has long hair, but I'm willing to bet his hair fits in his helmet a wee better than Amani Toomer's did.
Well my dreads come a little past my shoulders so that is pretty damn long and it doesnt effect the way my helmet fits at all. It is also pretty much understood that if you have long hair it is gonna get pulled once in a while but my hair has never been a problem.

Also if you have long hair playing with it down is a choice because you can either tuck it or atleast put it up some.

So basically the only thing you have proven to me is something i already knew, and that is Amani Toomer is soft.
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FWIW, I can't imagine anybody with long hair would try tucking it up inside their helmet like a turban; they would almost certainly braid it and let the ponytail hang down their back, inside the shoulder pads.
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Wow...Is it that time of the month again for you? I call someone out about saying it might be done because of safety and you get PMS. Take a deep breath and calm down.
I'm calm, I just think it's silly that people care one way or the other. It's not going to change anything at all, unless you're a big fan of hair. In which case, America's Next Top Model is probably more up your alley.
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what the hell are you even arguing? that long hair might, occasionally and given nearly perfect circumstances, make one more prone to a concussion? that's utterly inane. it's not like a player is going to be given a helmet that's three sizes too big because he has some extra hair. and it's not like there isn't room on the inside of a perfectly fitting helmet to tuck said hair.

but hey, you're apparently the expert on when long hair might like, totally maybe be bad in a few cases. wouldn't want to suggest you apply logic or anything.
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Scottyboy is always right njx, even when he's wrong.
see bf51 knows what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, long hair can make a helmet not fit properly. When a helmet doesn't fit properly, it's easier to get a concussion. I'm not saying it happens all the time, but still.

I dont care either way for this rule, if it happens, fine, if not, status quo is fine as well.
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they should just scalp every player in the NFL, fix this problem once and for all.
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The only part that bothers me is the Samoan players... It's part of their culture, I think it would be wrong to make them cut it no matter how ridiculous it looks.
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NO ONE IS GOING TO BE FORCED TO CUT THEIR HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jesus ****ing christ, for the sanity of everyone on the board, either quote ONCE where cutting one's hair was required or stop bloody repeating it. you people are making everyone on this board dumber.
Nice sig bastard, you totally left out the part of the 200 million dollars...which makes it okay.
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The big thing here is that the hair thing takes away from the individuality of some players (polamalu, bigby, mathis etc). Whoever said that it's a safety issue is a supreme douche. The players know that having long hair might give them a bigger chance of getting concussions, they're okay with that. They don't need a bunch of old white dude's (I'm guessing) saying what's safe and what isn't.
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Nice sig bastard, you totally left out the part of the 200 million dollars...which makes it okay.
I'm curious as to how 200 million dollars was the settled upon number. Nevermind, no I'm not.
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Yes, because if their hair is blocking their name it WOULD BE HARD TO TELL WHO THEY ARE!!!!

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what the hell are you even arguing? that long hair might, occasionally and given nearly perfect circumstances, make one more prone to a concussion? that's utterly inane. it's not like a player is going to be given a helmet that's three sizes too big because he has some extra hair. and it's not like there isn't room on the inside of a perfectly fitting helmet to tuck said hair.

but hey, you're apparently the expert on when long hair might like, totally maybe be bad in a few cases. wouldn't want to suggest you apply logic or anything.
no he's just saying that in that certain situation long hair led to concussions..
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They're about to discuss this on PTI, for anybody who is watching.
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...I can't believe some people care about this so much.

They get paid millions of dollars, big deal if they have to tuck in their hair - or get a hair cut. I'd have my hair permanently removed by laser if it meant making that much money every year.

Well, that's not true. No one can take my hair away! No one!
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What i can gather from the majority of this conversation is that this rule is utterly pointless..... and i don't fully buy the "long hair = more concussions" argument

Aren't there larger issues that the NFL/Competition Committee (and us, too?) should be worrying about?

Seriously.
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I guess they dont want to ever see another "hair tackle" like it happened to Troy Polamalu, but thats a little too much IMO.

Its part of the culture and its the players choice. If he chooses to have long hair, he has to accept the possibility of having it pulled during the game.
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long hair under helmet=helmet not fitting properly.

When a helmet doesnt fit properly, concussions are had alot easier.

See Amani Toomer.

If you come back with "Well Troy P. and Mathis have long hair and they don't get concussions"- compare the impact of a WR getting hit and how often to a DB
Again you're still speculating. Give me some cold hard evidence linking long hair and brain damage.

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Again you're still speculating. Give me some cold hard evidence linking long hair and brain damage.



Just because an issue is not relevant to you does not make it any less valid to discuss.
really? like I just speculated about Amani Toomer and his hair? When he shaved his head, he told my aunt it was because he was suffering several minor concussions... but that's ok, you don't have to believe me.
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Again, no one says they have to cut it. Reading is tough isn't it?
Um where did I suggest that I thought the rule was actually passed? I used the word IF quite a bit there, so To quote someone else, "Reading is tough isn't it"
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Um where did I suggest that I thought the rule was actually passed? I used the word IF quite a bit there, so To quote someone else, "Reading is tough isn't it"
Huh..? Uh.. he.. was saying.. even if the rule IS passed.. they.. don't have to cut their hair. They just can't let it obscure the name on their jersey. Unless you were speaking hypothetically about a rule that forces them to cut their hair.. which.. has never been mentioned as a possibility.. Hrm?
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jesus ****ing christ, for the sanity of everyone on the board, either quote ONCE where cutting one's hair was required or stop bloody repeating it. you people are making everyone on this board dumber.
Where the title say's "Haircut time" seems to indicate it as a possibility. I'm too lazy to read anymore, as you were.
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well if it blocks ur name I am guessing you would have to cut your hair, unless you find a way to tuck it your shirt but then your not you anymore.
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really? like I just speculated about Amani Toomer and his hair? When he shaved his head, he told my aunt it was because he was suffering several minor concussions... but that's ok, you don't have to believe me.
Yeah, I'll go off information that Toomer told your aunt. Very credible....
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