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Old 04-01-2008, 09:03 AM    (permalink
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NFL | Stiff arms to face could become a 15-yard penalty
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Charean Williams, of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, reports the NFL's competition committee is recommending officials make stiff arms to the face a 15-yard penalty in 2008. Tennessee Titans head coach and co-chairman of the competition committee Jeff Fisher said "grabbing on or twisting" the face mask by an offensive player on a defensive player will be a 15-yard face mask penalty. Offensive players also will be flagged 15 yards for illegal hands to the face if they shove a defensive player backward with a stiff arm to the face, according to Fisher
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I don't like this. This seems like something defensive players could abuse to negate running backs who stiff arm at all.
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This would be a damn shame. I have always been a big fan of the stiff arm
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seems ok to me. if you are a defender and grab and twist the ball carriers facemask its 15 yards. But if you go for the tackle get stiff armed and your facemask gets grabbed and twisted nothing happened. I just think it should go both ways.

However just a stiff arm to the face no grabbing/twisting of the facemask would still be ok imo
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They do make a valid point that it is a double-standard that once again favors the offensive player.

I actually wouldn't be too much against this because I hate how more or less an offensive player can do whatever they want now while the defense has a million rules disallowing them from doing everything.
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They do make a valid point that it is a double-standard that once again favors the offensive player.

I actually wouldn't be too much against this because I hate how more or less an offensive player can do whatever they want now while the defense has a million rules disallowing them from doing everything.
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It would, but it would also suck for someone to get a hand to a face and either get a concussion or a broken neck (unlikely, but possible).
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Only should be flagged for twisting the face mask not a direct arm to the face mask.
If defenders get called for tackling by face mask it should apply to offensive players as well
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Only should be flagged for twisting the face mask not a direct arm to the face mask.
If defenders get called for tackling by face mask it should apply to offensive players as well
yeah... alllow touching, just no twisting.
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Only should be flagged for twisting the face mask not a direct arm to the face mask.
If defenders get called for tackling by face mask it should apply to offensive players as well
If someone performs a stiff-arm and grabs the face mask, the refs can call a penalty already. The bigger question is hands to the face. I say if they don't let defensive players do it, offensive players shouldn't be allowed either.
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It seems like the competition committee is actually favoring defense over offense instead of the usually opposite.
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Damn Brian Westbrook is a beast at that... hopefully it doesn't happen.
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thats awful
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no more of this?
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I guess the rule would be ok if you grab and twist their face, but what is this turning into flag football.... two hand touch? More and more rules every year pretty soon there be a penalty every play.
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Something about this strikes me as wrong. The facemask rule made sense, because tackling high or twisting a players neck could be incredibly dangerous (Dick Lane proved that). However, most tacklers lead with their hardhat, and making any stiff arm to the head a potential penalty would change a lot of things.

In the end, a defender can cause way more damage in stopping a player and bringing him to the ground by his facemask. All an offensive player is trying to do is get away.
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Something about this strikes me as wrong. The facemask rule made sense, because tackling high or twisting a players neck could be incredibly dangerous (Dick Lane proved that). However, most tacklers lead with their hardhat, and making any stiff arm to the head a potential penalty would change a lot of things.

In the end, a defender can cause way more damage in stopping a player and bringing him to the ground by his facemask. All an offensive player is trying to do is get away.
that... actually makes a lot of sense.
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yeah... alllow touching, just no twisting.
That is a pretty safe rule to live by. In football, and in life.
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People do realize that if an offensive player is giving you a stiff arm to the face, he is more or less punching you in the face...
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And you do realize that the guy being "punched in the face" has a facemask and is trying the bring the guy doing the punching down as violently as possible, right?
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