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Old 04-16-2008, 02:47 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, I saw that. A first round pick is definitly out of the question now. Maybe even a 2nd as well.
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This is turning into the Javon Walker saga.......... well kind of only Johnson has proven alot more.
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I'd quickly give a second and third to the bengals for him...
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punk. i hope Palmer whips his ass if he decides to show up to any offseason stuff. Maybe that would shut him up.
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I'd quickly give a second and third to the bengals for him...
The reason why you shouldn't is because now teams have all the chips in the world in their favor. Everyone knows that the only thing the Bengals can do is trade or cut, and there is no reason to cut him. I say he won't go for anything higher than a 3rd on draft day.
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god i beg that he comes to dc!!!
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No reason to think he's worth anything less than a second.
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i wouldnt even think twice about giving a second. get it done dan!
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Ugh, thank goodness for the retards at ESPN because who else would listen to this dumbass. Who cares what he says, he's under contract to the Cincinnati Bengals and he's not going to get out of this situation and criticism like a mouthy coward. Compiling stats and thinking up touchdown celebrations doesn't cut it long-term, you need to be consistent and help your team get to the playoffs.

It's funny that he wants to get traded to a team in the playoffs, considering it's players like Chad Johnson that make a team don't get to the playoffs in the first place.
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yeah 85 has had more than one good season
In the two seasons before we traded him Walker had over 2000 yards and 21 TDs. He was becoming one of the top WRs. It's the injuries more then anything and then the attitude problems. No one questioned what he can do when he's actually on the field.
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The reason why you shouldn't is because now teams have all the chips in the world in their favor. Everyone knows that the only thing the Bengals can do is trade or cut, and there is no reason to cut him. I say he won't go for anything higher than a 3rd on draft day.
a team in need of a true number one receiver will definitely force the Bengals to trade him....and I imagine they won't give him up for any less than a second round pick...I can see something happening like what happened with Meshawn Johnson and the Bucs where the team suspended him....

but I don't see them cutting him...
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Ugh, thank goodness for the retards at ESPN because who else would listen to this dumbass. Who cares what he says, he's under contract to the Cincinnati Bengals and he's not going to get out of this situation and criticism like a mouthy coward. Compiling stats and thinking up touchdown celebrations doesn't cut it long-term, you need to be consistent and help your team get to the playoffs.

It's funny that he wants to get traded to a team in the playoffs, considering it's players like Chad Johnson that make a team don't get to the playoffs in the first place.
with all due respect...I think the Bengals don't get to the playoffs because they don't have a defense...
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Anyone think there's a chance Dallas makes run at him???

Maybe swap their 28th pick for Cincinnati's 2nd and Dallas throws in a 4th/5th round pick.

That would be scary
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This is really depressing. Before all the cinci fans come in and start saying they hope we trade him - we will basically have no chance of winning our division without chad - we need him. But if he absolutely refuses to play in cincinnati, I hope we hold his contract for a year and he doesn't play at all (I know its a very unlikely situation, just really boils my blood that he is getting so mad).

And whats worse, is he stirs up all this needless drama about wanting to leave, and then the media storms TJ and Carson about it, so carson tries to get the media of his back by saying "Chad will be there in training camp". Then Chad goes onto ESPN to say "I wish he would stay out of my business" - Do people not realize when you're shouting at every media outlet possible to get your voice heard than it really stops becoming your business and starts becoming the public's business?

... I'm so mad right now ><
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The Bengals in 2006, like the Jags that season, were on the doorstep of making the playoffs but just couldn't make it.

Hilarious how he thinks he's the best player on the Bengals. LOL, he's not even the best receiver on his own team, nor has he for some time (and I've been saying this for over a year now, glad some are starting to see it).

I feel for Carson, for having had put up with this **** for so long. It's hard enough playing quarterback in the league, Michael Irvin would say he'd blame himself for a bad pass rather than Troy Aikman to not place any additional pressure/grief on him.
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Im surprised to see no one mention Oakland.
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we could still win our division without Chad. We need another receiver for sure, but im confident enough in what Carson can do that without Chad we could still be successful. The defense needs to come into its own though.
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Anyone think there's a chance Dallas makes run at him???

Maybe swap their 28th pick for Cincinnati's 2nd and Dallas throws in a 4th/5th round pick.

That would be scary
I don't think that is that fair. The 28th pick for 46th pick? so we move up less than 20 spots and get a 4th/5th round pick for at least a top 5 WR? I realize he's devalued because he wants out of Cincinnati, but I also doubt that trade works out
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This is really depressing. Before all the cinci fans come in and start saying they hope we trade him - we will basically have no chance of winning our division without chad - we need him. But if he absolutely refuses to play in cincinnati, I hope we hold his contract for a year and he doesn't play at all (I know its a very unlikely situation, just really boils my blood that he is getting so mad).

And whats worse, is he stirs up all this needless drama about wanting to leave, and then the media storms TJ and Carson about it, so carson tries to get the media of his back by saying "Chad will be there in training camp". Then Chad goes onto ESPN to say "I wish he would stay out of my business" - Do people not realize when you're shouting at every media outlet possible to get your voice heard than it really stops becoming your business and starts becoming the public's business?

... I'm so mad right now ><
No you don't. I think TJ Houshmandzadeh is actually a better receiver than Chad Johnson.
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Everyone here saying that Johnson will garner a 1st or an early 2nd are crazy. Teams are staying away from head cases and they also know that they have all of the leverage in negotionations of trades with the Bengals. There are reasons why fans thought that Walker and Moss would go higher than they actually did.
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I don't think that is that fair. The 28th pick for 46th pick? so we move up less than 20 spots and get a 4th/5th round pick for at least a top 5 WR? I realize he's devalued because he wants out of Cincinnati, but I also doubt that trade works out
According to the value chart that would be the equivalent of pick #72 so early mid 3rd rounder plus 4th or 5th round. The situations are all different but Walker got a 2nd, Welker a 2nd, Moss a 4th. They know he doesn't want to stay in Cincy but teams will definitely want him and have to outbid eachother so his price will go up. He has proven he is a dominant WR and a team that doesn't want to wait for a rookie WR to develop will pay. I dont see how he couldn't go for a 2nd its definitely not to much at all. I sure think lots of teams will be interested so his price will stay up.
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