Impact Of A Jared Allen Trade

[bored of education]

The Chiefs could essential stock pile some draft picks. Giving them, in theory, a top 5, 14-25, and early 2nd and mid 2nd and a 3rd giving them 1,1,2,2,3,4,5,5,6,6,7,7 picks wise per round. Holes: LT, RT, RG, DE, CB, CB, QB, WR.

Defensive end would be number 2 on the list IMO to an LT. But the the amount of picks, it would allow KC to takes BPA 1st two picks of the 1st round then pick up a tackle like Collins and an end like Jackson/Ellis/Jones.


It could be interesting if anything develops from on out.

[Scott Wright]

I don't see anyone giving up a 1st AND a 2nd for Jared Allen.

Not only does the team acquiring him have to dole out a HUGE contract but they also assume the risk of a long suspension if he goes on another drinking bender.

At most I see them getting a 1st and a 3rd and honestly I think that would be too much.

[Dr. Gonzo]

It would indeed be interesting BOE.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Any other options if the Chiefs do wind up with 2 1st rounders, 2 2nd rounders, and a 3rd rounder?

Would they take a flyer on Matt Ryan?

How about Gholston?

Or are the set taking an offensive lineman at #5?

[bored of education]

jaguars giving up a 1st and 3rd would be nice!

[toonsterwu]

Scenario play.

Let's assume Vikings 1st and early 3rd for now are the picks this year.

A) The grab LT first scenario.

1. Branden Albert - Why OT here? LT potential drops off dramatically around mid-first. This isn't a big reach, at best, a few slots, as most have Albert in that 2nd tier.
1. Phillip Merling - Edge guy that's solid against the run, and has the quickness to develop into a pass rusher. Although as I type this, I guess they could end up going with Turk McBride at end.
2. Trevor Laws - Better 3-tech option.
3. Antwaun Molden - CB to develop.
3. John David Booty - QB to challenge.
4. Brandon Keith - Big time tackle talent, albeit with big time character questions.
5. Keenan Burton - WR to join with Bowe/Webb.
5. Mike McGlynn - Physical OL guy that could offer depth at tackle as well.

Um, for the final 4, another CB, maybe a TE, maybe a FB.

B) BPA-ish

1. Vernon Gholston - Edge guy to replace Allen.
1. Mike Jenkins - Top CB talent to step in.
2. Brian Brohm - Young QB to challenge.
3. Carl Nicks - Big time OL talent, character questions.
3. Jerome Simpson - Another WR talent to join what's there.
4. Brandon Keith

C) Revamp the DL

1. Sedrick Ellis
1. Phillip Merling

[Geo]

If the Chiefs were to acquire Minnesota's first round pick, I would think they jump at drafting Gosder Cherilus as their starting right tackle for many years to come.

[Scott Wright]

Originally Posted by Geo

If the Chiefs were to acquire Minnesota's first round pick, I would think they jump at drafting Gosder Cherilus as their starting right tackle for many years to come.

Good call, Cherilus would definitely be there and Otah could be too.

[MetSox17]

I'm sure Jared Allen would refrain from drinking and driving after he signs a fat contract. If i were the team trading for him, you HAVE to put some kind of clause in there giving them some of their money back if he were to get suspended a year for substance abuse.

That being said, if all i needed to give up was a middle of the round 1st and a 3rd, i'd pull the trigger if i were the Vikes. This guy would be the key to making their defense dominant. The pass coverage would improve with better pressure, and all they would need from the offense is 17ish+ pts per game.

[george_allen]

Originally Posted by Scott Wright

I don't see anyone giving up a 1st AND a 2nd for Jared Allen.

Not only does the team acquiring him have to dole out a HUGE contract but they also assume the risk of a long suspension if he goes on another drinking bender.

At most I see them getting a 1st and a 3rd and honestly I think that would be too much.

just a thought - how about allen to the rams and the 2 teams swap 1st round picks - that's about the same value as the vkings or bucs 1st round pick, which is who allen is said to be visiting. also, the de need is there for the rams and the chiefs would move into a better position to acquire jake long.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Originally Posted by MetSox17

I'm sure Jared Allen would refrain from drinking and driving after he signs a fat contract. If i were the team trading for him, you HAVE to put some kind of clause in there giving them some of their money back if he were to get suspended a year for substance abuse.

That being said, if all i needed to give up was a middle of the round 1st and a 3rd, i'd pull the trigger if i were the Vikes. This guy would be the key to making their defense dominant. The pass coverage would improve with better pressure, and all they would need from the offense is 17ish+ pts per game.

I agree wholeheartedly. Taking on Jared Allen to go along with Pat and Kevin Williams. All I can say is wow! A nice replacement for the ill Kenechi Udeze. I hope Udeze does have a full recovery.

[kmartin575]

Originally Posted by Scott Wright

I don't see anyone giving up a 1st AND a 2nd for Jared Allen.

Not only does the team acquiring him have to dole out a HUGE contract but they also assume the risk of a long suspension if he goes on another drinking bender.

At most I see them getting a 1st and a 3rd and honestly I think that would be too much.

It's already being reported that the Vikings were offering a 1st and next years 2nd.

[bored of education]

1a. Clady
1b. Flacco!

[Sveen]

I think an ideal situation for KC would be to get their tackle with the second 1st they would acquire, instead of reaching for one at #5. That is of course if the guy they want would still be there. I just hope they don't ruin my hopes of Ellis becoming a Saint ;)

[eagles nut]

I'm in the midst of a mock draft and had already had KC taking Chris Long at #5 and trading Allen before today's news hit. Pat Kirwan had actually hinted at it in his mock draft at NFL.com

I have MIN trading 1st and 3rd and 2009 2nd for Allen.

[San Diego Chicken]

If the Chiefs are going full rebuild mode and trade Allen, I think they should try to secure Matt Ryan, move up if you have to. They like him alot, so why not make him the centerpiece of your rebuild? Then go OL with #17. I just don't think you can justify giving away a franchise defensive lineman without getting a franchise QB. The fans won't want to watch a team with no Jared Allen and Brodie Croyle at QB. Ryan, Larry Johnson and Bowe sounds like the makings of an explosive offense.

When you think about it, it wouldn't be so bad if they waited until round 2 for OL either. How many LT's around the league were drafted in the second round? McNeill, Ugoh, Light, Roos, Clifton off the top of my head, and they all play for good teams.

[Scott Wright]

Originally Posted by kmartin575

It's already being reported that the Vikings were offering a 1st and next years 2nd.

That's not bad then because you usually downgrade a future pick round one. For example, a 2nd in 2009 would be equal to a 3rd in 2008.

[Geo]

Sounds like a good deal for both sides, if they do in fact agree to those terms. Plus it actually gives more value to the 5th overall pick for the Chiefs, as Chris Long and/or Vernon Gholston are now in play there.

[T-RICH49]

NBC here in KC is reporting Minnesota has offered a 1st and 3rd this year with a 2nd, 3rd or 4th next year

[Geo]

Obviously, Minnesota won't pull the trigger on a trade until they have an extension in place and completely agreed to with Allen and his agent(s) beforehand.

[kmartin575]

Originally Posted by T-RICH49

NBC here in KC is reporting Minnesota has offered a 1st and 3rd this year with a 2nd, 3rd or 4th next year

I would take that. A 1st and 3rd this year and next years pick being conditional with the lowest possible pick being a 4th. Something like if he has 10+ sacks it jumps up to a 3rd and if he makes the pro bowl it jumps up to a 2nd.

[Scott Wright]

Originally Posted by kmartin575

I would take that. A 1st and 3rd this year and next years pick being conditional with the lowest possible pick being a 4th. Something like if he has 10+ sacks it jumps up to a 3rd and if he makes the pro bowl it jumps up to a 2nd.

I think that is too much considering the money they will have to pay and the potential suspension lingering.

[FrankGore]

I'd take a 1st, a 3rd and then some sort of pick next year if I were the Chiefs. That'd be a good set of tools to haul in an amazing draft. I still think the Chiefs should look at trading down a couple spots from #5 - there's nobody they want there that won't be there at #8-10, and I don't really buy that they love Matt Ryan like it's been reported. If anything, they could select Brohm or whomever at #17 or trade back into the late 1st for Flacco.

My strategy in general would be to accumulate as many picks as possible, then selectively use them to trade back up to get players I really want. There's a scenario where the the Chiefs could walk away with Albert, Brohm, Cason, a couple of 3rd round DL, and then another offensive tackle. That'd be a huge haul. Losing Allen sucks but they're going to go through that anyways so they'd might as well get something in return.

[akvikefan89]

My Vikings obviously need a DE very badly, and adding Allen would be about as big of an upgrade as one could imagine.

But also, the Vikings are pushing hard to get a new stadium passed in the 2009 session, they need to create excitement and support for the team quickly. Adding an exciting Pro-Bowl DE would make them a very dangerous team and create excitement in Minnesota.

I would be fine with a 1st and 2nd round pick. I'd much rather have a proven 26 year-old Pro-Bowl DE than a mid-first and second round rookies.

On the suspension issue, it's a concern, but the reward outweighs the risk. Maybe Childress would hire Allen a personal full-time chouffer :)

[KCJ58]

Jared Allen worth a 1st & 2nd round pick is laughable