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Old 04-23-2008, 04:48 AM    (permalink
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lol your kidding yourself, why would the Cardinals take pick #11 for a top 5 WR, he is the fastest player ever to 100, 200, 300 & 400 catches and you offer pick #11?
Pick #26 and Matt Jones?
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lol your kidding yourself, why would the Cardinals take pick #11 for a top 5 WR, he is the fastest player ever to 100, 200, 300 & 400 catches and you offer pick #11?

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True. Draft picks are always valued higher than proven veterans.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:11 AM    (permalink
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He would take too much for Atlanta. It would take two second round picks at least, considering we would not give up number three. Also, Roddy White is the number one here.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:14 AM    (permalink
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What's so stupid about demanding a trade? I personally don't feel like they can afford both guys, its hard to keep two #1 WR's capable of putting up 1300 yds and 8 tds season to season, both guys want to be paid like one of the best in the league, they see guys like Bernard Berrian signing huge contracts, and Boldin is twice that talent.


These guys are only so loyal, but when contracts start getting out of hand, they realize what they can get elsewhere, and want to be compensated to their performance.


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2007 Arizona Cardinals 12 11 71 853 12.0 44T 9
2006 Arizona Cardinals 16 16 83 1,203 14.5 64 4
2005 Arizona Cardinals 14 14 102 1,402 13.7 54T 7
2004 Arizona Cardinals 10 9 56 623 11.1 31T 1
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These are some pretty damn good numbers his first 5 years, one of the most consistent guys, he manned and played this year severely banged up, and he's grossly underpaid considering what most guys make who are alot less talented...You either pay a guy, or he wants to go elsewhere to get paid, thats the nature of the beast.
If he had not missed 12 games in his career his stats would be insane.
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Pick #26 and Matt Jones?
To be equal to pick #11 (which Fenikz said no to), Matt Jones would be worth a high 2nd round pick....
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a first this year and a first next year do it danny
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Bring him on to the 'Boys!

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:01 AM    (permalink
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What do they want? We seem to be signing NFC West WRs left and right.
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What do they want? We seem to be signing NFC West WRs left and right.
They dont want to trade him and are willing to start discussing a new contract. He's not going anywhere, nor is Ocho Cinco. So, the attention turns to Roy Williams...for all those interested in a big name WR.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:10 AM    (permalink
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I wonder if the Lions would do a Roy Williams plus late pick for Shockey trade straight up.

They could use a TE.
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I wonder if the Lions would do a Roy Williams plus late pick for Shockey trade straight up.

They could use a TE.
No, not after the Cowboys would offer a first rounder and Bobby Carpenter
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No, not after the Cowboys would offer a first rounder and Bobby Carpenter
Nobody wants Bobby Carpenter.

If the Redskins offer up that same deal they were throwing around for Chad or Boldin. I doubt we could match, let alone top that type of offer.
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Nobody wants Bobby Carpenter.
And you know this because...?


Obviuosly no one is going to trade for him straight up, but its another story when your packaging him with a 1st rd pick and another mid day pick, or maybe another player, he becomes appealing then...And who have we been shopping him to that's not interested in him?


But I agree if the Skins are throwing that offer around to everyone, they will outbid every NFC east team without much fight...But the Cards already shut them down, really dont think they want to trade Boldin even though he wants out.
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Cards only have one-word reply for Boldin trade queires: NO

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...oldin0423.html

Graves went on to say the trade request is not a new tactic for Rosenhaus. "We have not heard that (trade request) from Anquan," Graves said.


So thus this is just Rosenhaus trying to get more money, Boldin has never said he wants to be traded


Anquan Boldin does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Anquan Boldin goes killing...
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Cards only have one-word reply for Boldin trade queires: NO

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Graves went on to say the trade request is not a new tactic for Rosenhaus. "We have not heard that (trade request) from Anquan," Graves said.


So thus this is just Rosenhaus trying to get more money, Boldin has never said he wants to be traded


Anquan Boldin does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Anquan Boldin goes killing...


Actually I think your reading it wrong...I think Boldin asked to be traded, and went through his agent Rosenhaus to work it out...Just because he didn't go about it the way Chad did doesn't mean he didn't ask out or isn't unhappy...

You know Rosenhaus can't come out of the blue and ask for his player to be traded unless it was a request right? Agents cant speak for their players like that, unless it was relayed to him by Boldin which is most likely the case...Obviously the Cards dont want to trade him, but I disagree with Boldin never saying he wanted to be traded, publicly maybe no, but there is no reason Drew would inquire about it on his own behalf because he thought it would be a good idea.
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but there is no reason Drew would inquire about it on his own behalf because he thought it would be a good idea.


...What? He gets paid when Boldin gets paid it's his job to try getting all of his players raises, Rosenhaus sees that right now there is a big market for top WR's and he is trying to get his guys money. Fitz was 1st, then he started it with Ocho Cinco and now it's moving towards Boldin, you think its just a coincidence that all of these guys want money at the same time or is it more logical that Rosenhaus is pushing all of them to do it.
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...What? He gets paid when Boldin gets paid it's his job to try getting all of his players raises, Rosenhaus sees that right now there is a big market for top WR's and he is trying to get his guys money. Fitz was 1st, then he started it with Ocho Cinco and now it's moving towards Boldin, you think its just a coincidence that all of these guys want money at the same time or is it more logical that Rosenhaus is pushing all of them to do it.


So you think Drew figured it would be a good idea to put out that Boldin wanted a trade, just to see what he could get...And being that Boldin doesn't want to be traded as you assume, he just let his agent do it on his own and figured he would live with it either way, that makes no sense.


Whether or not he gets paid, what sense would that make that he comes up with the idea that Boldin should be traded, and he should be traded even though Anquan doesn't want to be as you said...Why doesn't he do that for his other clients then, because he has alot of clients not just the big name guys, and he is not going to be asking around for trade offers unless Boldin said he was unhappy and wanted to be moved.

Plaxico Burress is also his client, does that mean that since he wants to get paid he can start shopping trade offers around for Burress without speaking to him and getting his consent? It doesn't even work like that, guys like Shockey, Chad, TO, all wanted to be traded and/or get out, so he got out there and tried to get the best deal possible for his players, but that doesn't give him the authority to start trading his clients to other teams to get rich without the players consent.
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I think I missed something. I remember a thread that was created saying he was given a new contract this offseason. Was that a false report?
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And you know this because...?


Obviuosly no one is going to trade for him straight up, but its another story when your packaging him with a 1st rd pick and another mid day pick, or maybe another player, he becomes appealing then...And who have we been shopping him to that's not interested in him?


But I agree if the Skins are throwing that offer around to everyone, they will outbid every NFC east team without much fight...But the Cards already shut them down, really dont think they want to trade Boldin even though he wants out.
Well BP had zero interest in him (that says a lot) and he isnt guaranteed to succeed in a 4-3. He is a good special teams player, that's it...his value is in the basement right now. I doubt Bobby would be a deal breaker in any trade...he'd basically just be a throw in. You'd figure we would like to get a little something in return, considering we did waste a 1st rounder on him.

Also, if you believe the Dallas morning news...we've been shopping him since January but, no one is interested.
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What do they want? We seem to be signing NFC West WRs left and right.
Unfortunately, only the ones that no one wants
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NFL Network reported that the Cards rejected a trade offer from the Skins for Boldin.
No details though. I wonder if it was the same offer made for Chad Johnson
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So you think Drew figured it would be a good idea to put out that Boldin wanted a trade, just to see what he could get...And being that Boldin doesn't want to be traded as you assume, he just let his agent do it on his own and figured he would live with it either way, that makes no sense.


Whether or not he gets paid, what sense would that make that he comes up with the idea that Boldin should be traded, and he should be traded even though Anquan doesn't want to be as you said...Why doesn't he do that for his other clients then, because he has alot of clients not just the big name guys, and he is not going to be asking around for trade offers unless Boldin said he was unhappy and wanted to be moved.

Plaxico Burress is also his client, does that mean that since he wants to get paid he can start shopping trade offers around for Burress without speaking to him and getting his consent? It doesn't even work like that, guys like Shockey, Chad, TO, all wanted to be traded and/or get out, so he got out there and tried to get the best deal possible for his players, but that doesn't give him the authority to start trading his clients to other teams to get rich without the players consent.


If Rosenhaus came up to you and said we could get you 10 mil a year if we spread a rumor that you want to be traded I'm sure any WR would say yes.

And Plaxico Burress is 30 no one is gonna pay him that kind of money
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