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Old 04-23-2008, 06:48 PM    (permalink
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I just need to say that I have unfortunately started a trend...

The Cowboys DT is Tank Johnson, not Tank Williams. Tank Williams is a former SS for the Titans and was recently signed by the Patriots.

That was a Freudian slip on my part. Sorry guys! -_-"
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something intresting they said on ESPN was " he will come in right away and start ahead of anthony henry" i wonder if thats true
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something intresting they said on ESPN was " he will come in right away and start ahead of anthony henry" i wonder if thats true
How would they know that now? Dallas doesn't even know what kind of playing shape he's in. Maybe they said, he could come in and start ahead of Henry, but there's no way they can say he will. Dallas just lost 2 back up corners in Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones. That's who Pacman is replacing for now.

The logic however, is not hard to see. If in fact, Pacman can come in and show that he deserves to start, then the Cowboys will have the option of moving Henry to FS and Hamlin to SS. Something that has been long rumored.
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I will go on record and say he will not start ahead of Anthony Henry. Like D said, who knows what kind of shape he is in? You'd imagine there would be a great deal of rust. Anthony has done nothing to be demoted and is making big money. Pacman will start eventually but, barring injury...he'll most likely be playing nickel and that is fine w/ me. I still dont like him, though...but, I'll give em a chance.
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nooooooooooooooooo this is a good deal for the cowboys if he comes back and stays out of trouble.
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For a fourth rounder you have to like this if you are a Cowboys fan, he is a great talent who obviously is an idiot, but the reward outweighs the risk in my opinion. The Titans pretty much were just trying to salvage their top ten pick shipwreck, a 4th rounder is better than nothing.
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Ha ha imagine if the cowboys picked up Chad Johnson too? Pretty much every hated player would be on Dallas
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damn, good deal for the cowboys i hope he screws the whole team up though...now we really need boldin or roy or cj
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Good deal for both.

Dallas gets a guy that might get the axe but it's no different than drafting a guy in the fourth round and Pacman obviously has talent.

Tennessee gets rid of a problem and gets a pretty good pick for it given the circumstances.
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I'm reading that his contract is going to be new and fully restructured, league minimum, mostly incentive based, and no guarantees in case he is suspended again...He is going to have to earn any real money he would receive, nothing like his rookie contract he was on.


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I will go on record and say he will not start ahead of Anthony Henry. Like D said, who knows what kind of shape he is in? You'd imagine there would be a great deal of rust. Anthony has done nothing to be demoted and is making big money. Pacman will start eventually but, barring injury...he'll most likely be playing nickel and that is fine w/ me. I still dont like him, though...but, I'll give em a chance.
Just ESPN doing what they do best, speculating...I didn't even respond because it's just silly, Henry played excellent, no one is getting ahead of themselves because no one has even seen him going through the motions yet, our rookie CB is more likely to take Henry's spot then Pacman right off the bat...We are lucky if he gets to that point by the playoffs.
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Sorry if I am repeating this in the thread, but what do the Cowboys do now with their 2 firsts? are they still targeting a CB?
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I would think RB and WR
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I think we all would agree #22 is going to be a CB, Cason looks to be the front runner unless Jerry throws a curve, but i dont think Pacman is enough to sway us from DB in the 1st because we have no depth what so ever...We need another solid body at DB who can contribute now, both our starters are over 30...Might throw Flowers into the picture since Pacman is more of a man cover guy like Newman, but corner is definately something we pick up in the 1st.
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Well That is good for us if TT actually drafts a CB. All bets are of for me after last year. I will be surprised by nothing.
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I think we all would agree #22 is going to be a CB, Cason looks to be the front runner unless Jerry throws a curve, but i dont think Pacman is enough to sway us from DB in the 1st because we have no depth what so ever...We need another solid body at DB who can contribute now, both our starters are over 30...Might throw Flowers into the picture since Pacman is more of a man cover guy like Newman, but corner is definately something we pick up in the 1st.
I do agree we go corner but, I'd disagree that 22 has to be that corner. I really am starting to think that, that pick will be Felix Jones....if the top three corners are gone. You should still be able to draft Cason at 28 and you could potentially flip-flop w/ the Chargers so, they can add a pick later in the draft. But, even if you don't do that, the Chargers seem more interested in Flowers anyway...I def. see Cason available at 28.
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Yea, I can definately see Felix Jones and Cason in the 1st flip flopping, I agree Cason should be there at 28 too...Just pretty sure we take a guy in the 1st, that's probably our only CB pick now, but we still need someone to step in and help...I doubt we are expecting Henry and Newman to be fully healthy all year again...We are going to need 4 good corners to go into the season with...And if for some reason Cason is gone at 28 I could see us grabbing Flowers and being ok with that pick.
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Quote from ESPN's Ed Werder.


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Please don't take Felix Jones... why would you draft a backup RB in college in the first round... and yes I realize McFadden was the starter. But many think McFadden will bust, so how will his backup be any better?
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if Pacman winds up playing the way he did pre-suspension, I think Dallas will have the 2nd best CB duo next to Oakland this coming year.
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Please don't take Felix Jones... why would you draft a backup RB in college in the first round... and yes I realize McFadden was the starter. But many think McFadden will bust, so how will his backup be any better?
Yeah you already had Felix Jones at RB his name was Julius Jones. Why let the same guy you already had go then use a 1st round selection on essentially the same guy and pay him first round money? Doesn't make any sense to me.
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Yeah you already had Felix Jones at RB his name was Julius Jones. Why let the same guy you already had go then use a 1st round selection on essentially the same guy and pay him first round money? Doesn't make any sense to me.
Because he went to Arkansas and Jerry cant help himself when it comes to Arkansas products
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