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Everyone should leave their grades here, on each pick, and the draft itself...


I'm bookmarking my place here and will edit mine's in later 2nite...Interested in how everyone feels about certain picks except for Rob because we all know how he feels already;)



Felix Jones RB - Not in love with the pick, because I don't like the whole passing up a better player for a better back up philosophy...Either way it's not a bad pick, but I would of liked it alot better without Mendenhall on the board...Its a pick that if it plays out right I will be ok with passing on him, although I still believe Chris Johnson was a better compliment, Felix Jones could work out very well for us in his role...but Mendenhall along with Jenkins would of been one of the best 1st rd grades out there. Grade=B




Mike Jenkins Cb - Talk about a way to save the 1st rd, Had we missed on Mendenhall and Jenkins I would of never forgave Jerry, but he showed some guts to move up for him...Packers were considering jumping up for him, the Texans wanted him at 26, and we made it happen...Arguable the top rated corner in the draft, skill set of a #1 lockdown corner, we REALLY have some guys who can cover now...I would of been ecstatic with a 1st round that was Jenkins by himself...He could of been gone at pick 10, talk about a steal...Getting him makes the Felix Jones pick much better if I imagine we got Jenkins at 22 and Felix at 28...Bonus points for this because of the value, and because we jumped a few teams who wanted him.Grade=A+



Martellus Bennett TE - Talk about a surprise...Was really shocked to see this happen, but after reading up on how we intend on using him I like the pick alot...We have plans to use him in our offense almost like a WR, and he will create mismatch problems that I'm sure Garrett will work to create...He is a huge target and another red zone weapon, almost fits the bill of a huge WR we were looking for, and he is very well rounded as he can block and help in the passing game...I would of prefered we traded up for one of the WR's who were slipping as I was thinking Sweed wouldn't cost much, but I still like this pick, I won't be able to love it until I see some games and his role in our offense, but I will say I am excited about the possibilities of what we can do with him.Grade=B


Tashard Choice RB - Another head scratcher, and frankly I don't like the value here...Sorry but other guys could of been had later, I like Choice and all but frankly seemed too soon to take another back, I would of rathered payed Thompson and addressed other needs...Safety was a thought here, O line depth at tackle or guard, NT, another impact D lineman, alot of other positions made more sense, then this position...I can't imagine how much he will be worked in if Barber gets 20 carries, and Felix gets 10, so for a 4th rd pick I would of prefered someone else, but Choice as a player is not bad.Grade=C-



Orlando Scandrick CB - Finally a pick I was happy about...This guy is our 5th DB now, but with how many injuries we had at Cb last year I like our depth finally, I would feel ok with him in dime formations, and I like his potential to grow and get better...Fast guy, man cover skills who should of went earlier, we still needed bodies and I really like the pick...BUT, i need to mention Justin King was available at our early 4th, would it of not made more sense to take King there, and a Rb here? I want the better value at CB...But I like Scandrick almost as much and was excited about getting him hereGrade=B


Erik Walden DE - Don't know much about him other then what I read, but it was a reach, and other talent was available over him...I doubt he gets to play much, but considering we passed on Woodson at QB, and Rubin at NT, terrible pick...either guy provides better value for the pick, and would have more of an impact at some pointGrade=D



Overall Grade: B



I still can't believe we passed on Rubin in the 6th, thats incredible value to play NT, Cleveland got a steal, he makes a much better pick then Walden...Woodson would of been a great developmental guy...Choice was too early for my taste also, the rest I can live with.
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Round 1

Pick 22: RB Felix Jones, Arkansas

Dallas Receives: Pick 25 (1)
Seattle Receives: Picks 28 (1), 163 (5), 235 (7)
Seattle used picks on DE Lawrence Jackson, FB Owen Schmitt and K Brandon Coutu.

Pick 28: CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida

Round 2

Pick 61: TE Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M

Round 3

Pick 92: Traded to Detroit
Dallas Receives: Pick 111 (4), 2009 4th Round Pick
Detroit Receives: Pick 92 (3)
Detroit used pick on DE Cliff Avril

Basically Dallas gives up their 3rd rounder in exchange for a 2009 3rd from Cleveland and 4th Rounder from Detroit. Follow below.

Round 4

Dallas Receives: Pick 100
Miami Receives: Anthony Fasano, Akin Ayodele

Pick 100 via Miami: Traded to Oakland
Dallas Receives: Pick 104 (4), 213 (7)
Oakland Receives: Pick 100 (4)
Oakland uses the pick on CB Tyvon Branch

Pick 104 via Oakland: Traded to Cleveland
Dallas Receives: Pick 122 (4)
Cleveland Receives: Pick 104
Cleveland uses the pick on TE Martin Rucker.

Pick 111 via Detroit: Traded to Cleveland
Dallas Receives: 2009 3rd Round Pick
Cleveland Receives: Pick 111 (4)
Cleveland used pick on LB Beau Bell

Pick 122: RB Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech

With Pick 100, we trade down from 100 to 122 and select Choice and pick up a 7th.
With Pick 111, we pick up a future 3rd rounder from Cleveland.

Round 5

Dallas Receives: Pick 143 (5)
Jacksonville Receives: Pick 155 (5), 213 (7)
Jacksonville uses the picks on LB Thomas Williams, RB Chauncey Washington

Pick 143: CB Orlando Scandrick, Boise St

Round 6

Dallas Receives: Pick 167 (6)
Miami Receives: Jason Ferguson

Pick 167: DE/OLB Erik Walden, Middle Tennessee State



Thoughts:

On Felix: I hate Felix Jones. I hated the pick. I think I shed a tear when I heard the announcement. That said, I knew it was going to happen.

Well, now he's a Cowboy. I have to learn to like him, so I will start with the positives.

1. He's shown that he can contribute with each and every time he gets to carry the ball. He's accustomed to sharing the ball. He's accustomed to being the complimentary back. He can make the most with every touch. When his number is called, he can perform right away and be effective. This single factor is not taken into account by most fans, but it is significant. Julius Jones taught me that lesson. Julius is a back that needs a lot of carries in order to get his juices going. He needs consistent carries in order to be effective. Many backs are like that too. They are not good in committe approaches. He wasn't an effective RB in our system because he couldn't perform on a limited basis and when he didn't play, he quietly sulked on the sideline. I'm comfortable with the fact that Felix can be a team guy who has a history of being effective when his number is called.

2. Felix has shown he can be a good back in a committee, but he also has the make up to be a full time back if asked. He's not a "scat back" where you have that fear of simply being a specialized back. Felix can handle the load as he won Freshman of the Year in the SEC before DMAC arrived.

3. Felix has fast "game speed". People will look at his 40 and complain. Heck, I did it too! But reviewing his tape.... his game film doesn't disappoint. The key to it is his combination of great vision and great lateral move ability. He cuts left and right without losing speed and THAT is what gives him break away ability on the field. When Marion Barber goes left to right, he makes hard cuts and plants his feet to avoids defenders, but that slows his body speed down and prevents him from "breaking away". Felix is smooth in his lateral movements and his vision to see where defenders are coming from quickly help him to make quick judgments in where he wants to go and bam, he's gone.

4. Felix proved himself against the best level of competition in college football. Even Arkansas' out of conference games were tough. I'm not worried about that factor.

The only cons out there are that, Mendenhall was ranked higher according to the experts, not sure about him being the best fit in our system, but the general consensus will say we took the lower rated back. So that, plus my personal dislike for Felix (for no real good reason really... mostly because the experts had us mocking him for the longest time and I was bored of that selection) is all that really bothered me about the pick. I think he has a good chance to succeed in the situation he has been put in. He won't have any excuses outside of a weak LG in front of him, so the onus is on Jerry because the whole world knows this was a Jerry pick.
Player Grade: B+

The decision to take Felix there will be questioned mightly because they passed up on Mendenhall, but most of you know that I was never a fan of Mendenhall anyways. The only RB that I wanted to draft in Round 1 was DMAC or Stewart and when they were taken off the board, I wanted to take Jenkins at 22 and hope for Devin Thomas at 28. The run on RBs right after we took Felix was weird. Kinda makes me think that he wouldn't have been there at 28, but we'll never know. Toonster did indicate that Tennessee was interested in him, but I don't know his sources.
Decision Grade: B-



On Jenkins: Almost committed some physical harm on myself and my TV when we passed on Jenkins at 22. Sat in silence boiling with anger with my eyes closed for what seemed like eternity... in actuality 3 or 4 minutes. Only extreme self control prevented me from punching a hole through the TV and cursing Jerry Jones. After cooling down, I hoped to Dear Jesus that Jenkins would somehow slip to 28. When we moved up for Jenkins at 25, I was happy as ... well, Glen Dorsey said it best ... I was happy as all outside! :) The price wasn't even an issue even though I didn't know the terms at the moment, whatever the cost was, I wasn't worried about it. I just knew I wanted Jenkins and was happy that we landed him. Getting him at 25 has to be one of the best picks of the draft.
Player Grade: A+
Decision Grade: A+

On Bennett: Bennett was one of the few TEs in this draft that I thought could step in and help us right away mainly because of his awesome size and athleticism. Now his production at A&M can be brought into question, but remember he was just a Junior and A&M operates a run first, run second, run third offense. 700 receiving yards is not too shabby at all when you put things into perspective. He's got soft hands and excellent leaping ability. The fact that he declared for the NBA draft out of HS, is another indicator of his immense athleticism. I won't say he's Antonio Gates, but he is in that mold.
Player Grade: A

Now I'm going to give this pick a harsh grade. Why? Simply put, Jerry lost control of the War Room. He crumbled when he got outvoted by his subordinates. I think Jerry himself already has regrets about it because for one, news like this doesn't leak out this soon unless Jerry wanted to leak it out. In a way, he's trying to wash his hands clean of the situation where they lost out on a top tier WR. Sure, they're happy with the player they have in Bennett, but apart him wishes he had a top WR instead. The cost of moving up a few spots really would've been insignificant. There's always ways of finagling with your picks on Day 2 to add guys on your board that you like to your team. Apparently he wanted Hardy, many speculated that we wanted Sweed, a whole run on WRs was going down and we simply missed the boat.
Decision Grade: C+

On moving out of Round 3: We used our 3rd Round Pick to get a 2009 3rd Rounder from Cleveland and 2009 4th Rounder from Detroit. I gotta give it to Jerry, he has a knack for coming out on top value wise when it comes to acquiring future picks. It feels hella good knowing that we have extra house money to play with going into next year's draft. Our mock drafts are gonna be FUN FUN FUN!
Player Grade: N/A

So the extra draft picks sound nice and all, but here's another situation where I think we were being reactive and not proactive. It's like we didn't do any homework going into Day 2 and didn't have targets. A whole lotta talent came off the board right before our eyes and we sat pat. Still no help at WR, OL or DL.
Decision Grade: B

On Tashard Choice: This is my 2nd favorite pick of the draft! TC is a wonderful player. Is he Cory Boyd? Nope. Do I love Cory Boyd? Yes. However, if you followed the clues close enough, you knew the Cowboys were interested in TC for a long time. I was turned off by him early on because... I forget who it was exactly... but one of you Cowboys fans is a die hard Georgia Tech fan and couldn't stand TC. Well, he's a Cowboys now so I've already begun to start to make my own judgments on him. What I see so far, heck, I really really like him. Especially as a 3rd string back. Not sure if there are many 3rd string backs like him in the NFL. Our stable of RBs seems very promising to say the least. Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice are a daunting trio. I'm happy. He doesn't have breakaway ability, but he runs hard between the tackles, has good vision and elusiveness. Mayock was brave enough to say TC reminded him of MB3, and while I'll snicker at that comment, it's nice to know his opinion of TC is so high.

After all the knocks on us lately for accepting guys who have character concerns, it was nice to see us land a guy like Tashard who has such passion for the game and is such a special leader. Watch this and tell me it doesn't give you chills.

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Player Grade: B+

The decisions the Cowboys made in the 4th round were frustrating as a fan. There we were at 100 and 111 ready to strike and we only ended up with Choice. I get the impression the Cowboys wanted to take him all along, so kudos to them.

Decision Grade: B

Pick 111: Damn... we passed on Beau Bell, Mike McGlynn, Anthony Collins, Dre Moore, Red Bryant to name a few that I was personally hoping for... That 3rd Rounder from the Browns better show great results. I can just see OT being an immediate need for us next year and it's doubtful we get the opportunity to get a talent like Collins with that pick. A year in our system would've been good for him and good for us. Moore was inconsistent in college, but he's got tremendous upside. Bryant getting taken right before us hurt too.

Player Grade: INCOMPLETE
Decision Grade: B-

On Scandrick: We got ourselves a raw piece of clay to mold and work with here. 5th round.... can't expect miracles, but we should expect promise and I think that's what Scandrick does. He put up the second fastest 40 time at the combine which is impressive and he has good size. However, I've seen Scandrick get lit up by Hawaii and it wasn't pretty. Here's hoping for a better NFL player. He's declared as a junior so he is fresh clay.

Player Grade: C

The fact that we're at this point of the draft and have yet to address OL or DL is sickening to me. Where's our LG of the future? Where's our NT help? Where is our pass rush specialist at DE? Secondly, we moved up for him. Ok sure, we don't really need a 7th rounder, but I was hoping for more than a #6 CB. Frank Okam... Trae Williams... DeMarrio Pressley... Roy Schuenning... Carl Nicks... Marcus Howard... Johnathan Goff... Damn man. I didn't like this pick at all.

Decision Grade: D

On Walden: OK, we got some back up kid to break in behind Ware. I guess this guy is supposed to have potential. Looked the part in his youtube video. This was our last pick of the draft and I can understand taking him here since we didn't have 7th rounder. I wonder if he'll make the team.

Player Grade: C

At this point of the draft, I'm really missing Parcells. He's had one helluva draft and now he just scooped up Donald Thomas, the OG from UConn, a guy I wanted... and I just sat there say... there he goes again. BP just "gets it". I'm really wondering who made this call to select Walden. I think he would've been available in UDFA.

Decision Grade: C-

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Felix Jones- B

Felix Jones fits into our scheme like a glove and it's a bonus that he can return kicks. If we would've selected Mendenhall, I would have graded it an A-. Felix is solid, but I think he would've been there at 28.

Mike Jenkins- A-

I think he was the third best cb in the draft and he'll come in and compete from day 1.

Martellus Bennett- B-

I think this was a luxury pick. He's a great athlete that'll just add to Romo's weapons, but I'd say he was a bit of a reach in the 2nd round.

Tarshad Choice- B+

This kid has a lot of character and is a leader. He'll challenge Felix for the back up position and I see him contributing on special teams.

Orlando Scandrik- C

He'll come in and be a solid special teams player, but he'll have a hard time competing at CB with a deep roster right now.

Erik Walden- D

OLB wasn't a need in this draft and I see this as a work in progress. Maybe he can come in and be a special teams player, but I see it tough for him to make the roster.

OVERALL- B

I'm still a little disappointed with us not adding depth at NT, DE and OL. I"m extremely disappointed we didn't select a young WR. Overall I'm happy, but overly happy.
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RB, Felix Jones...

Perfect compliment to Marion Barber. Outstanding vision, burst, lateral quickness, and elite return skills. Can be effective in between the tackles or can turn the corner w/ ease, in a flash. Catches the ball very well out of the backfield and can stretch the field when lining up in the slot. Causing matchup problems in the process.

CB, Mike Jenkins...

My favorite corner in the draft. Outstanding cover man, who can develop into a shutdown corner. At pick 25 the value is incredible...could be the steal of the 1st round.

TE, Martellus Bennett...

I didnt think we would go TE so early but, I'm not complaining. Excellent sized TE w/ tremendous potential. Big red zone threat who could cause matchup problems, lining up in the slot. Also, a good blocker...the potential had to be too good to pass up. Just another weapon to add to the arsenal. Better than Fasano.

RB, Tashard Choice...

I wanted no part of him as a Barber compliment but, as a depth guy...this was a solid "Choice". Gives us some nice security if Barber or Jones get injured or a contract agreement cannot be met w/ Barber. Excellent character guy who can run effectively between the tackles. A nice depth pick.

CB, Orlando Scandrick...

I dont think this pick was needed...we were set at corner even before this selection. That being said, the value is outstanding. He could be a real find for us...if he went back for his senior year, he would certainly be a 1st day pick. Big time triangle numbers. Should beat out Ball for that 5th spot.

OLB, Erik Walden...

I think this was a bit of a reach...I would have preferred a Howard or Johnson but, Walden has intriguing potential. Workout warrior w/ great athleticism and excellent physique. Rather raw but, he possesses great speed and burst for the position. He's going to work hard for us. Should beat out Rogers and hopefully, spell Ware on occassion. Potential Steal.

We made some interesting selections...got some excellent value but, some needs did go untouched. Mainly Qb and SS but, all and all...I think this was an outstanding draft. I'd probably go B+ because of adding another corner late and reaching on Walden but, I honestly couldnt be much happier.
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Felix Jones (B) - Everyone on the team board knows how i feel about this pick. I thought it was a bit of a reach. I felt that we could have gotten the production that he's gonna give us later on in the draft. Or at least at 28. I think his explosiveness and speed is a little overrated, but he is pretty agile and has some decent vision, so before i completely hate his guts, i'll see him play. If he busts, i won't be surprised. But i suppose it's a solid pick.

Mike Jenkins (A-) - Great pick. Not much to say after that. He's a hell of a player, and probably the most NFL ready out of all of the CB's. The reason i'm giving this a (-) instead of (+) is because of the fact that we had to trade up for him, sacrificing picks, while we could have had him at 22 and a different running back at 28. We won't throw him into the fire right off the bat so he'll have some time to adjust to the speed of the NFL, and it'll ease the move of Newman into the slot. Once Adam Jones gets reinstated, we'll have a secondary to be reckoned with.

Martellus Bennett (B-) - Bit of a reach if you ask me. I'm coming around to the way that we can use him, throwing him in the slot, or in two TE formations, but I think it makes the trade of Fasano look a little silly. He has potential to be great, but I can't remember the last offense that implemented two great TE's. I felt that we could have gone up to grab a WR, but apparently there was no one willing to trade down. A bit disappointed to see the WR position not get addressed, but this can be a very good pick down the line.

Tashard Choice (C-) - Biggest stretch in the combination of need & position. I don't think we needed a RB this early, and we missed out on other positions. Here i think we could have gone for Dre Moore or Tony Hills, both of whom were drafted shortly before and after. I don't know why we kept moving back, Dre Moore could have given us some very good depth, or we could have taken Red Bryant and assured ourselves of having some d-line depth. Tony Hills was there basically because of his injury, and he could have been developed at guard or tackle, to help replace Kosier, who is no slouch, but no doubt the weakest link on the line, or Marc Colombo once we can't resign him.

Orlando Scandrick (C+) - I don't know how much we needed this pick honestly. I hear he's very gifted physically, but where the hell is he gonna play? We drafted and traded for two CB's, on top of our two starters, and we have a guy developing (Ball) whom the coaches seem to be a bit high on. I guess that means the end of him and Ogelsby. If we had gone with Choice in the round before, we could have taken Okam who could have been developed into very good shape and ended up with great value.

Erik Walden (D-) - This pick is pretty much the first thing that pops to your head when you hear Erik Walden. "WTF?". That's what i thought to myself when i heard this pick. No one knew anything about him, Scott didn't even bother to have him in his rankings, so i can't think of a possible reason why we would go with him, when there was STILL Ahtyba Rubin to be drafted. This pick is pretty much whatever to me, I wouldn't notice if this guy made the roster or not.


Overall Grade: C+

It's a C+ because at least we squirreled away some picks for next year. But it seems like the same old song and dance with Jerry. Trade back, trade back, trade back. At some point you're gonna need to start making some teams. Trust your scouting department. I think we could salvage this draft a little more if we can come away with some good UDFA's. I'd like to see Erin Henderson, Wesley Woodyard and Marcus Griffin come in to try out. Henderson maybe could translate into a good ILB, Woodyard might be able to move into strong safety, spell a little sometimes and contribute in special teams, and the same with Griffin.

That being said, can't wait till training camp.


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Felix Jones (D+) - Never use a first rounder on a projected career back-up. He'll return kicks. Great. Not an ideal 3rd down back cuz he can't really block either. To me this "Role" would have been perfect at 61 in the name of Charles from Texas. Reggie Bush is poster child for this failed experiment and he makes Jones look like grandmamama.

Mike Jenkins (A+) - Best overall CB. Wouldn't do a damn thing differently.

Martellus Bennett (D) - Already have a 25 year old Pro Bowl TE and a quality back up and just trade a second year second rounder. Total waste of a pick. Not even the best TE athlete in the class at this pick. A developmental reach would have been Kellen Davis and easily in the 4th round. This was the perfect pick to trade of go WR.

Tashard Choice (F) - Could have gone Guard or Tackle with quality. Instead we are covering up the mistake at 22. The spin is "back-up Barber." Now we have 1,2,3 Career Back-Up RBs. Love MBIII but really let us be honest we have 3 back-up RBs. We have RB by committe in Dallas but the OC doesn't really run much so .... I am perplexed why a team that does not run much needs 1,2,3 Not Franchise Quality Back-up RBs.

Orlando Scandrick (A) - Ball is a turd. Slow. Scandrick will compete for the 4/5 CB and has speed. Once Henry is moved to FS this really upgrades our DB speed. This is ONE MAJOR POSITIVE to the moves. We now have DB talent and can cut loose slow-arse R Williams, Ball without hesitation.

Erik Walden (D-) - Again, a wasted pick on a way too small OLB.

Overall Grade: C-

The picks for next year are great but the problem is Jerrah Moron Jones will once again screw it all up. Be nice if he actually had a good draft without Parcells or Johnson inhibiting his loser tendencies of reaching on players who don't fit the system and then trading like he has ants in his pants so that people go WOW. Jerry confuses movement with progress.

To me you can't run a draft when you are so distracted/obessesed with trades -- you are there to find players to build a TEAM. Not have a collection of random talent that does not fit your systems and schemes. You trade to get guys you really want in the areas you think you can get them.

Right now we Zampese system with no stud RB. 3 Back-up RBs. No NT for a 3-4. No ILB depth in the 3-4. No Red Zone WR. Brad Johnson noodle arm back up QB. Two 35 year old starting WR and their replacements are Austin and Stanback. Plus Kosier safe and sound in his back pedal while the rest of the line is pushing forward.

The one and only positive to the offeseason is that we finally have some excellent corners and great studly athletic depth. TNew, Pacman, Jenkins, C Borwn, Scandrick are sub 4.4. Hamlin, Watkins and Henry are 4.5 safety types. We rebuilt the corps and I love that since I agree with it. Good bye Roy Williams, eat a burger for me.

But frankly this team's personnel is going backwards. I don't perceive we are finding those Parcells Seventh rounders anymore or those UDFA that we can develop to fit our systems or picking early round players to be starters-now.

I think we are accumulating talent. I don't doubt their talent but they don't fit in any meaningful way. Like mixing up pieces from two puzzles, dividing them in two and then expecting to rebuild a total picture.

I feel liek Charles Manson ran our draft and good ole Charly could explain why he did everything but no one else understood WTF he was saying or why.
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Jones is the best fit for this team, and I’m not in the camp of those who credit the selection to JJ’s Arkansas homerism; his vaunted ‘wow’ factor could have been much more pronounced with Mendenhall, but he passed him up in favor of what he and the staff obviously thought was the best pick at the time. That pleases me. He plays a lot faster than that 4.47 40 time. B.
I love, love, love Jenkins at 25. Still can’t believe he was there, and while I like Cason and Flowers Jenkins is in a different tier of prospects,and that upgrade is more than worth those two selections.A+
Bennet’s not a guy that I thought was especially necessary, but the scouting staff fell in love with his abilities and were delighted to see him drop to 61. Let me say this as one who was rooting for a DaJuan Morgan selection the whole time; I like the Bennett pick now. This kid is athletic almost beyond belief for a TE. To put it most simply, he’s also a very capable basketball player. And what I love most about it is his willingness to do the dirty work. He’s reportedly a fearsome blocker who gets in the trenches not only willingly, but eagerly. Bennett could have helped us enormously throughout last year, and most significantly against the Giants in the playoffs. B+
To me, the Choice pick was a little depressing. I look at that guy’s scouting report and see a poor man’s MB3 (keeping in mind that MB3 was himself perceived to be a poor man’s MB3 as a fourth round draft pick in ‘05) which signals the departure of the Barbarian. The team tried to offer Barber a reasonable contract, and now that he has declined they are preparing for contingency plans. I like Choice the player, but the pick was not necessarily a need at that point unless one subscribes to the theory that MB3 will be wearing a different jersey. B-.
Scandrick was a third-round talent who slipped to the fifth. Good bargain, and yet another terrific special teamer. This seems to have been a recurring theme throughout both days; Jerry is trying to build a killer ST squad for every situation. Scandrick blocked seven kicks in college, and will surely be an edge rusher on punts and field goals. B
One other thing gave me hope for the future; Jerry continued to wheel and deal and wasn’t compelled to make any knee-jerk moves. He was enthralled by Bennett, but allowed him to fall into his lap. He had to be salivating when Jeff Otah dropped, but let the situation play out and ended up with two studs. He dealt current picks for greater value down the road, and It’s impossible to find fault with that logic. (straight up fourth for an ‘09 3rd? I’ll do one every chance I can.) And instead of going with the talented receivers when they dropped, he grabbed the talented cornerback who contribute right off the bat and let other teams roll the dice on a 50-50 proposition.
Overall, A-.
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Kiper gave us a B+ along with the Redskins.

He Graded the Eagles and Giants with C+.

I guess not everyone thinks we messed up with the Felix Jones pick.
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Bob, those are your opinions and I can live with them. But you say no 3-4 NT. Even if you don't like Ratliff (I think he did a great job last year...), who could have we picked to be our NT? You usually don't find a great 3-4 NT in the later rounds, all the studs 3-4 NT's in this league are first rounders. We tried to pick a 3-4 NT in the later rounds the last couple of years but we failed, and so did the other 3-4 teams.
And please, don't tell me that we should have trade one of our pick for Rogers or Jenkins. It would have cost us a second rounder, and I wouldn't trade a second round for guys who are probably washed up and have zero work ethic.
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I understand where bob is coming from. Do I just need to accept that we'll never have a true 3-4 NT? We're 3 years into this now and we STILL lack THE MOST important piece of the whole 3-4 Defense concept. It's frustrating.

If it would've cost Martellus Bennett for the chance to have Shaun Rogers or Kris Jenkins, I for one would have done it despite their imperfections. They're not old, they just get tired fast. They're fat and they get double teamed. Of course you have to give them breaks. If we had a strong rotation, our Defense would be taken to another level. Right now, no one gets double teamed consistently and thus, our rushers are not freed up. It's a simply concept. My only hope is that Tank Johnson will take his game up to another level. That's all we got.

You guys are so quick to defend Ratliff, just as you were quick to defend Ferguson. You did it because they were/are halfway decent at attacking the backfield. However, neither are consistent enough in attacking the backfield as to force consistent double teams. Teams will just line up one on one with our NTs so they don't leave anyone else undefended.

Same old song for me... Here's hoping Tank muscles up for this upcoming season.
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Round 1

Pick 22: RB Felix Jones, Arkansas

Dallas Receives: Pick 25 (1)
Seattle Receives: Picks 28 (1), 163 (5), 235 (7)
Seattle used picks on DE Lawrence Jackson, FB Owen Schmitt and K Brandon Coutu.

Pick 28: CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida

Round 2

Pick 61: TE Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M

Round 3

Pick 92: Traded to Detroit
Dallas Receives: Pick 111 (4), 2009 4th Round Pick
Detroit Receives: Pick 92 (3)
Detroit used pick on DE Cliff Avril

Basically Dallas gives up their 3rd rounder in exchange for a 2009 3rd from Cleveland and 4th Rounder from Detroit. Follow below.

Round 4

Dallas Receives: Pick 100
Miami Receives: Anthony Fasano, Akin Ayodele

Pick 100 via Miami: Traded to Oakland
Dallas Receives: Pick 104 (4), 213 (7)
Oakland Receives: Pick 100 (4)
Oakland uses the pick on CB Tyvon Branch

Pick 104 via Oakland: Traded to Cleveland
Dallas Receives: Pick 122 (4)
Cleveland Receives: Pick 104
Cleveland uses the pick on TE Martin Rucker.

Pick 111 via Detroit: Traded to Cleveland
Dallas Receives: 2009 3rd Round Pick
Cleveland Receives: Pick 111 (4)
Cleveland used pick on LB Beau Bell

Pick 122: RB Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech

With Pick 100, we trade down from 100 to 122 and select Choice and pick up a 7th.
With Pick 111, we pick up a future 3rd rounder from Cleveland.

Round 5

Dallas Receives: Pick 143 (5)
Jacksonville Receives: Pick 155 (5), 213 (7)
Jacksonville uses the picks on LB Thomas Williams, RB Chauncey Washington

Pick 143: CB Orlando Scandrick, Boise St

Round 6

Dallas Receives: Pick 167 (6)
Miami Receives: Jason Ferguson

Pick 167: DE/OLB Erik Walden, Middle Tennessee State



Thoughts:

On Felix: I hate Felix Jones. I hated the pick. I think I shed a tear when I heard the announcement. That said, I knew it was going to happen.

Well, now he's a Cowboy. I have to learn to like him, so I will start with the positives.

1. He's shown that he can contribute with each and every time he gets to carry the ball. He's accustomed to sharing the ball. He's accustomed to being the complimentary back. He can make the most with every touch. When his number is called, he can perform right away and be effective. This single factor is not taken into account by most fans, but it is significant. Julius Jones taught me that lesson. Julius is a back that needs a lot of carries in order to get his juices going. He needs consistent carries in order to be effective. Many backs are like that too. They are not good in committe approaches. He wasn't an effective RB in our system because he couldn't perform on a limited basis and when he didn't play, he quietly sulked on the sideline. I'm comfortable with the fact that Felix can be a team guy who has a history of being effective when his number is called.

2. Felix has shown he can be a good back in a committee, but he also has the make up to be a full time back if asked. He's not a "scat back" where you have that fear of simply being a specialized back. Felix can handle the load as he won Freshman of the Year in the SEC before DMAC arrived.

3. Felix has fast "game speed". People will look at his 40 and complain. Heck, I did it too! But reviewing his tape.... his game film doesn't disappoint. The key to it is his combination of great vision and great lateral move ability. He cuts left and right without losing speed and THAT is what gives him break away ability on the field. When Marion Barber goes left to right, he makes hard cuts and plants his feet to avoids defenders, but that slows his body speed down and prevents him from "breaking away". Felix is smooth in his lateral movements and his vision to see where defenders are coming from quickly help him to make quick judgments in where he wants to go and bam, he's gone.

4. Felix proved himself against the best level of competition in college football. Even Arkansas' out of conference games were tough. I'm not worried about that factor.

The only cons out there are that, Mendenhall was ranked higher according to the experts, not sure about him being the best fit in our system, but the general consensus will say we took the lower rated back. So that, plus my personal dislike for Felix (for no real good reason really... mostly because the experts had us mocking him for the longest time and I was bored of that selection) is all that really bothered me about the pick. I think he has a good chance to succeed in the situation he has been put in. He won't have any excuses outside of a weak LG in front of him, so the onus is on Jerry because the whole world knows this was a Jerry pick.
Player Grade: B+

The decision to take Felix there will be questioned mightly because they passed up on Mendenhall, but most of you know that I was never a fan of Mendenhall anyways. The only RB that I wanted to draft in Round 1 was DMAC or Stewart and when they were taken off the board, I wanted to take Jenkins at 22 and hope for Devin Thomas at 28. The run on RBs right after we took Felix was weird. Kinda makes me think that he wouldn't have been there at 28, but we'll never know. Toonster did indicate that Tennessee was interested in him, but I don't know his sources.
Decision Grade: B-



On Jenkins: Almost committed some physical harm on myself and my TV when we passed on Jenkins at 22. Sat in silence boiling with anger with my eyes closed for what seemed like eternity... in actuality 3 or 4 minutes. Only extreme self control prevented me from punching a hole through the TV and cursing Jerry Jones. After cooling down, I hoped to Dear Jesus that Jenkins would somehow slip to 28. When we moved up for Jenkins at 25, I was happy as ... well, Glen Dorsey said it best ... I was happy as all outside! :) The price wasn't even an issue even though I didn't know the terms at the moment, whatever the cost was, I wasn't worried about it. I just knew I wanted Jenkins and was happy that we landed him. Getting him at 25 has to be one of the best picks of the draft.
Player Grade: A+
Decision Grade: A+

On Bennett: Bennett was one of the few TEs in this draft that I thought could step in and help us right away mainly because of his awesome size and athleticism. Now his production at A&M can be brought into question, but remember he was just a Junior and A&M operates a run first, run second, run third offense. 700 receiving yards is not too shabby at all when you put things into perspective. He's got soft hands and excellent leaping ability. The fact that he declared for the NBA draft out of HS, is another indicator of his immense athleticism. I won't say he's Antonio Gates, but he is in that mold.
Player Grade: A

Now I'm going to give this pick a harsh grade. Why? Simply put, Jerry lost control of the War Room. He crumbled when he got outvoted by his subordinates. I think Jerry himself already has regrets about it because for one, news like this doesn't leak out this soon unless Jerry wanted to leak it out. In a way, he's trying to wash his hands clean of the situation where they lost out on a top tier WR. Sure, they're happy with the player they have in Bennett, but apart him wishes he had a top WR instead. The cost of moving up a few spots really would've been insignificant. There's always ways of finagling with your picks on Day 2 to add guys on your board that you like to your team. Apparently he wanted Hardy, many speculated that we wanted Sweed, a whole run on WRs was going down and we simply missed the boat.
Decision Grade: C+

On moving out of Round 3: We used our 3rd Round Pick to get a 2009 3rd Rounder from Cleveland and 2009 4th Rounder from Detroit. I gotta give it to Jerry, he has a knack for coming out on top value wise when it comes to acquiring future picks. It feels hella good knowing that we have extra house money to play with going into next year's draft. Our mock drafts are gonna be FUN FUN FUN!
Player Grade: N/A

So the extra draft picks sound nice and all, but here's another situation where I think we were being reactive and not proactive. It's like we didn't do any homework going into Day 2 and didn't have targets. A whole lotta talent came off the board right before our eyes and we sat pat. Still no help at WR, OL or DL.
Decision Grade: B

On Tashard Choice: This is my 2nd favorite pick of the draft! TC is a wonderful player. Is he Cory Boyd? Nope. Do I love Cory Boyd? Yes. However, if you followed the clues close enough, you knew the Cowboys were interested in TC for a long time. I was turned off by him early on because... I forget who it was exactly... but one of you Cowboys fans is a die hard Georgia Tech fan and couldn't stand TC. Well, he's a Cowboys now so I've already begun to start to make my own judgments on him. What I see so far, heck, I really really like him. Especially as a 3rd string back. Not sure if there are many 3rd string backs like him in the NFL. Our stable of RBs seems very promising to say the least. Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice are a daunting trio. I'm happy. He doesn't have breakaway ability, but he runs hard between the tackles, has good vision and elusiveness. Mayock was brave enough to say TC reminded him of MB3, and while I'll snicker at that comment, it's nice to know his opinion of TC is so high.

After all the knocks on us lately for accepting guys who have character concerns, it was nice to see us land a guy like Tashard who has such passion for the game and is such a special leader. Watch this and tell me it doesn't give you chills.

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Player Grade: B+

The decisions the Cowboys made in the 4th round were frustrating as a fan. There we were at 100 and 111 ready to strike and we only ended up with Choice. I get the impression the Cowboys wanted to take him all along, so kudos to them.

Decision Grade: B

Pick 111: Damn... we passed on Beau Bell, Mike McGlynn, Anthony Collins, Dre Moore, Red Bryant to name a few that I was personally hoping for... That 3rd Rounder from the Browns better show great results. I can just see OT being an immediate need for us next year and it's doubtful we get the opportunity to get a talent like Collins with that pick. A year in our system would've been good for him and good for us. Moore was inconsistent in college, but he's got tremendous upside. Bryant getting taken right before us hurt too.

Player Grade: INCOMPLETE
Decision Grade: B-

On Scandrick: We got ourselves a raw piece of clay to mold and work with here. 5th round.... can't expect miracles, but we should expect promise and I think that's what Scandrick does. He put up the second fastest 40 time at the combine which is impressive and he has good size. However, I've seen Scandrick get lit up by Hawaii and it wasn't pretty. Here's hoping for a better NFL player. He's declared as a junior so he is fresh clay.

Player Grade: C

The fact that we're at this point of the draft and have yet to address OL or DL is sickening to me. Where's our LG of the future? Where's our NT help? Where is our pass rush specialist at DE? Secondly, we moved up for him. Ok sure, we don't really need a 7th rounder, but I was hoping for more than a #6 CB. Frank Okam... Trae Williams... DeMarrio Pressley... Roy Schuenning... Carl Nicks... Marcus Howard... Johnathan Goff... Damn man. I didn't like this pick at all.

Decision Grade: D

On Walden: OK, we got some back up kid to break in behind Ware. I guess this guy is supposed to have potential. Looked the part in his youtube video. This was our last pick of the draft and I can understand taking him here since we didn't have 7th rounder. I wonder if he'll make the team.

Player Grade: C

At this point of the draft, I'm really missing Parcells. He's had one helluva draft and now he just scooped up Donald Thomas, the OG from UConn, a guy I wanted... and I just sat there say... there he goes again. BP just "gets it". I'm really wondering who made this call to select Walden. I think he would've been available in UDFA.

Decision Grade: C-
The Georgia Tech fan who didn't like TC was me...

However, I didn't like him as our primary spell back for Barber. Having him as our 3rd RB is a totally different situation and one that I am happy with.

He lacks the speed that FJ has and that is why I didn't like him for our RB by committee. This is good though, he can come in and pick up some carries in blow outs. If a guy gets nicked up for a few games, TC can be serviceable. Nothing special, but great for a 3rd stringer.
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I understand where bob is coming from. Do I just need to accept that we'll never have a true 3-4 NT? We're 3 years into this now and we STILL lack THE MOST important piece of the whole 3-4 Defense concept. It's frustrating.

If it would've cost Martellus Bennett for the chance to have Shaun Rogers or Kris Jenkins, I for one would have done it despite their imperfections. They're not old, they just get tired fast. They're fat and they get double teamed. Of course you have to give them breaks. If we had a strong rotation, our Defense would be taken to another level. Right now, no one gets double teamed consistently and thus, our rushers are not freed up. It's a simply concept. My only hope is that Tank Johnson will take his game up to another level. That's all we got.

You guys are so quick to defend Ratliff, just as you were quick to defend Ferguson. You did it because they were/are halfway decent at attacking the backfield. However, neither are consistent enough in attacking the backfield as to force consistent double teams. Teams will just line up one on one with our NTs so they don't leave anyone else undefended.

Same old song for me... Here's hoping Tank muscles up for this upcoming season.

That's all I'm saying, Thank You...Rubin wasn't worth the risk over Walden in the 6th? I thought this was a perfect chance to get someone like him, Bryant, or Okam in the middle, which would let us get smaller at ILB if need be and Burnett can play base snaps...Were not terrible there, but we don't have a true NT yet, and without one our defense just isn't going to reap the benefits that it really could.


I would of been willing to sacrifice Bennett for that guy as well, its a position that is undervalued but so important...Had I known we were going to draft like this I probably would of preferred Shaun Rogers for a 2nd and a 5th...I don't know, it's not like there was a sure-fire answer at NT in a 3-4, but there were plenty of guys available late who could be that guy, and I was surprised and upset we didn't address it.
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I agree with you about the NT situation D, 2nd year in a row looking for a Nose Tackle prospect and nothing. At least we actually addressed our CB needs and the 2 RBs I can learn to deal with. Anyone who was hoping to get a WR needs to watch the post draft press conference. Jerry said they weren't targeting any of the WRs.

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I agree with you about the NT situation D, 2nd year in a row looking for a Nose Tackle prospect and nothing. At least we actually addressed our CB needs and the 2 RBs I can learn to deal with. Anyone who was hoping to get a WR needs to watch the post draft press conference. Jerry said they weren't targeting any of the WRs.

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that would be Jason Hatcher.
This year is Hatcher's make or break year. If what you say is right about him being our pass rush specialist, then we need to find out for sure THIS year. Enough with the hopeful projections. It's not enough to rely on.
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It is scary seeing Bill Parcells draft. Every single decision makes sense and it 100% consistent with what he wants both in terms of personnel strategy, fit to schemes and player character.

Parcells is Amadeus Mozart and Jones is that Italian moron.
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Parcells is Amadeus Mozart and Jones is that Italian moron.
Become a dolphins fan then.

Bobby Carpenter, Anthony Fasano, Skyler Green, Montavious Stanley, E.J Whitley, Justin Beriault, Julius Jones, Jacob Rogers, Stephen Peterman, Bruce Thornton, Sean Ryan, Nate Jones, Jacques Reeves, Al Johnson, BJ Tucker, Zuriel Smith.

All guys that were drafted by Parcells in the four drafts he did, that have done absolutely jack squat for the team.

He's not necessarily Mozart once you notice that the only pick remaining on the team from the 04 draft was 6th rounder Patrick Crayton.

I don't know if that makes up for butchering the rest of the draft.

Three in 03, One in 04, five in 05, and four in 06.

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Old 04-28-2008, 06:48 PM    (permalink
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.
LOL, Jenkins at 25 was a reach?!

You're insane. If we would have taken him at 22 i would have yelled that it was about time. He's a top 15 talent, but everyone decided to stock up on linemen, which allowed him to fall a bit.

If we had let one more pick go by, Houston would have gobbled him up.
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.
Stick with grading your own team, because you obviously have little knowledge of the Cowboys.
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.

Dallas comes away with a 2 RB's (one with KR ability), 2 CB's, A pass catching TE, a practice squad OLB in 2008 and three picks in the 2009(3rd/4th/6th). That is a solid B+. If we got a WR and a higher pick in 09 we would be looking at an A. Jerry work with the staff to put together a solid draft that will pay dividends this season!
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It is scary seeing Bill Parcells draft. Every single decision makes sense and it 100% consistent with what he wants both in terms of personnel strategy, fit to schemes and player character.

Parcells is Amadeus Mozart and Jones is that Italian moron.
Parcells is Mozart except when it comes to selecting offensive lineman. He can coach them, sure. But I don't buy that he's got the best eye for evaluating OL talent.

Here is the difference between Parcells and Jerry. Parcells will go with his true and tested forumula every single time. He will not stray from it one inch. If the direction goes that way, he doesn't want to be associated with it. ie. TO coming to Dallas. He acts the way old guys typically act. They don't like change. They like knowing how things work and when it's working, they don't want to mess with it. Parcells has a philosophy and he'll always play safe and feel safe by following it.

Jerry is the forever adapting, forever changing risk taker. He'll go for the gusto. If he swings and misses, it doesn't bother him. He wants to hit the home run. Mistakes are an accepted result. He'll try to learn from it and move on. There is no one written formula that works for him. There is no rules which will tell him what to do or how to act. He'll take a little from here, a little from there, see what he likes and puts his own little tweak to it. That way he can call it his in the end. There is no method to follow. He'll fly by the seat of his pants.

Which is the better method? Playing safe doesn't alway equal ultimate success. It will increase your chances of improvement, but will it help you reach the top? It's more a preventative method to ensure you don't hit the low lows. Your chances are just about the same as the risk taker who runs by no rules. The highs and troughs are more extreme with the risk taker, but in the end, if you only have one goal of winning the SB, Jerry's method is probably the better method. If you have a goal of maintaining a string of winning seasons, Parcells method is probably more effective, but there's a reason why he's only won 2 SBs in his entire career while Jerry has won more in much less time, even though Jerry has lost more too.

I don't think it's fair to call Jerry an idiot and praise Bill. It's just two different approaches. Jerry will take you on high highs and low lows. Bill will give you more stability and try to keep you satisfied, but don't hate him if he doesn't take you to the top. That's not what his philosophy is built for.
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.
Convince me why Mendenhall was a better fit for our team.

Did you take into account that we picked up a 3rd and 4th rounder in 2009? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Additionally, I think there is significant difference between the quality of talent in Jenkins' game in comparison to Cason's game. And when you factor in the fit in our system, which you probably didn't do, then the value for Jenkins increases exponentially.

There is a reason why Barber won't hold out. He lost his leverage when we drafted Jones and Choice. The situation has changed.
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Another thing for the Tuna Lovers to keep in mind; if we had been following Parcells' mantra, we would have selected Dewayne Robertson over T-New and Marcus Spears at 11 in '05. Our defense would be extremely mediocre, if not outright bad, with those two decisions alone.
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I'd give you guys a C-. Take Mendenhall over Jones and that bumps up to a solid B.

The trade up for Jenkins was a little bit of a reach. There was good value going to be at 28 with him or Cason.

I think the Choice pick was a wasted pick. Barber won't hold out and no one is gonna pay over the top for him either.
Thats too bad because every analyst has given us a B or B+, so its too bad that your Redskins opinion doesn't matter.



You calling Jenkins a reach tells me all I need to know about you.
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