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Old 04-28-2008, 11:00 AM    (permalink
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Breaking news guys: Josh Johnson is black.
LMFAO. I bet he has a big JOHNSON too.

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LMFAO. I bet he has a big JOHNSON too.

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I don't get it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:39 PM    (permalink
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LMFAO. I bet he has a big JOHNSON too.

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It is probably similar to Brad Johnson's.
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Its almost like your just throwing around the hall of fame. It takes amazing careers to just have the hall of fame thought about... Your saying that 7 of the players in the first round are in contention for the Hall of Fame...
from the first round of one draft class ..
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1. Jake Long- Because Howie's adopted son.

2. Chris Long- Jealous that his father adopted Jake Long, Chris becomes a sith lord.

3. Matt Ryan- Becomes a CIA analyst. Helps a stealth submarine defect to America.

4. Darren McFadden- Holds out, allows Justin Fargas to become a 1400 yard a year rusher and Michael Bush to become one of the best short yardage backs in the NFL. He is traded to Arizona after only 3 seasons and 1100 total rushing yards. He'll turn it around after he leaves Oakland but much like Thomas Jones did. He'll have a good career but not a pro bowl caliber one. But after his football career is done, he'll make his name as a philanthropist, ultimately becoming Time's Man of the Year in 2028.

5.Glenn Dorsey- Four time pro bowler. Never gets past the first round of the playoffs. Borderline hall of fame, but juuuuuust not good enough.

6. Vernon Gholston- Doesn't live up to Shawn Merriman/DeMarcus Ware expectations. A three time pro bowl alternate who never actually gets there. Has three sacks when the Jets finally make it to the Superbowl. But the Jets lose the game however despite his performance.... and its a blowout. Also of note, a fifth place finish in Mr Olympia.

7. Sedrick Ellis- Does almost as good as Glenn Dorsey every year of his career.

8. Derrick Harvey- Remember Justin Smith? There ya go.

9. Keith Rivers- Becomes one of the best linebackers this side of the Missisippi.

10. Jerod Mayo- Has a decent, not great career. Gets a job as an executive at Helmann's afterward.

11. Leodis McKelvin- Good, not great corner. Leaves at the end of his rookie contract for more money elsewhere. Wayyyyy more money.

12. Ryan Clady- Some d-linemen will take revenge upon him after he chop blocks one too many times.

13. Jonathan Stewart- Future Green Lantern. And late night comedy talk show host.

14. Chris Williams- AN okay offensive linemen. Nothing special, but not terrible.

15. Branden Albert- Will eventually move to Japan to become a K-1 fighter.

16. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie- Will change his name to Dominique Wilkins Johnson Williams Charles Palmer Jenkins Peterson Mutombo Rodgers-Cromartie. His uniform will be the best selling in NFL history.

17. Gosder Cherilus- He was drafted by the Detroit Lions, you figure it out.

18. Joe Flacco- Remember Kyle Boller? Yeah, some teams never learn.

19. Jeff Otah- He'll add a few more letters to his name.

20. Aqib Talib- He'll turn around his life after he miraculously survived getting struck by lightning.

21. Sam Baker- Becomes a chef.

22. Felix Jones- Good home-run hitter and situational runner. A decent football player too.
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^ Interesting...but abit conservative IMO! Go out on a limb!
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So we ended up with a CIA agent and a chef. Perfect.
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So we ended up with a CIA agent and a chef. Perfect.
Excellent if the team plane crashes in the middle of nowhere.
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By peoples reactions I guess Gholston is going to be a bust......... nice........
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By peoples reactions I guess Gholston is going to be a bust......... nice........
jetsfan, do you suffer from depression?
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:52 PM    (permalink
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I just dont think Chris Long is going to be that great, especially in St. Louis. I can see Flacco being completely terrible just like Boller.
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1. Jake Long- Great Tackle.

2. Chris Long- abover average starter, nothign special.

3. Matt Ryan- Below average starter, becomes a journeyman backup for a few years, better than Harrington, worse than Vinny.

4. Darren McFadden- Very good back, speed and moves like Petterson but not the power.

5.Glenn Dorsey- Amazing player, but gets bogged down from injuries alot.

6. Vernon Gholston- Very good.

7. Sedrick Ellis- Great player, not as good as a healthy dorsey but career last longer.

8. Derrick Harvey- Never gets more than 8 sacks, mostly backup throughout 10 year career.

9. Keith Rivers- Awesome LB.

10. Jerod Mayo-Bust after a few seasons as a medicore LB.

11. Leodis McKelvin- Struggles and bounces around alot.

12. Ryan Clady- Great.

13. Jonathan Stewart- Struggles in Carolina, becomes great in KC.

14. Chris Williams- Big Bust.

15. Branden Albert- Great Tackle.

16. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie- Amazing Career. Antonio Cromartie becomes known as the cousin of Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

17. Gosder Cherilus- Leonard Davis as a tackle, just as bad at Guard.

18. Joe Flacco- Starts early and his career is very similar to Boller.

19. Jeff Otah- Decent, nothing more.

20. Aqib Talib- Bust.

21. Sam Baker - Bust.

22. Felix Jones- very good change of pace back, never starter.

23. Rashard Mendenhall- Very good back, Parker begins to break down when his contract expires and Mendenhall becomes the feature back.

24. Chris Johnson- Bust.

25. Mike Jenkins- Very solid.

26. Duane Brown- Bust.

27. Antoine Cason- Decent nickle, not starter.

28. Lawrence Jackson- Journeyman backup.

29. Kentwan Balmer- below average starter, but still starter for career.

30. Dustin Keller- Top Ten tight end, not amazing though.

31. Kenny Phillips- Another very good Miami Safety. Not amazing like others.

Brohm is the only starter after 5 years. Rogers plays well but gets injuried alot and Brohm takes over and is Top Ten QB.
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umm WTF do you know anything about Bigg?
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Wow, Bucs, you're a pessimist.
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1. Jake Long- Will bust like Robert Gallery but will find a home at G and be solid.

2. Chris Long- The un-apreciated guy, the guy who gets 8-9 sacks a year and gives his all on every play yet he gets no recognition.

3. Matt Ryan- Good player will have a Matt Hasselbeck type career. 2 Pro-bowls

4. Darren McFadden- Will be a great player, but will be stuck behind a terrible o-line for years 3 probowls.

5.Glenn Dorsey- Best DT in the NFL will have a Warren Sapp esque career. 6 Pro-bowls

6. Vernon Gholston- He will fill up the stat sheets one game and disappear the next, a guy who will get high sack numbers. 4 pro-bowls

7. Sedrick Ellis- Will be a force on the D-line and will team up with Will Smith for years. 2 Pro- Bowls

8. Derrick Harvey- Will be average but will be well known, because he will be over- rated like Joey Porter

9. Keith Rivers- The leader of the Bengals defense for years, but will go unrecognized like Takeo Spikes 1 pro bowl

10. Jerod Mayo- Will become one of the better LB's in the leauge and become the staple of the Patriots defense 4 probowls

11. Leodis McKelvin- will be above average but that is all

12. Ryan Clady-The next great Bronco lineman 3 Pro-bowls

13. Jonathan Stewart- Great player one of the best when he isn't hurt but he will be hurt often and will have a Fred Taylor type career 2 probowls

14. Chris Williams- The Bears LT for years and will be highly under appreciated

15. Branden Albert- Will struggle at tackle but will learn and become a solid lineman

16. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie- very developmental will take him 2-3 years before he will begin to play at a Pro- Bowl level 3 Pro Bowls

17. Gosder Cherilus- Will be the starting RT for years and will be around along time 3 Pro Bowls

18. Joe Flacco- Will turn out to be Kyle Boller 2.0 and will bust

19. Jeff Otah- Will be the starting RT for years and will be around along time 3 Pro Bowls

20. Aqib Talib- He will be a Pac-Man Jones guy, great on the field not so great off of it, He and Roger Goodell will be on a first name basis. 4 Pro- Bowls

21. Sam Baker- Will be the guy that no one knows until he is gone, he will go un-noticed and will be let go because he is deemed replaceable, the Falcons were sorry and they want him back.

22. Felix Jones- Will bust and be Julius Jones version 2 Cowboys fans will forever regret no taking Mendenhall.

23. Rashard Mendenhall- Willie Parker will be his perfect complement, until he goes down and Mendenhall proves he can do it by himself. 5 pro- bowls

24. Chris Johnson- will develop in to a Brian Westbrook type guy he will return kicks, play WR and RB 2 Pro- Bowls

25. Mike Jenkins- Will be a good #2 corner and will be over rated 3 Pro-Bowls

26. Duane Brown- Bust. Texans will regret this pick.

27. Antoine Cason- Will eventually be the #1 corner and will be very sucessful he will be on a Reshean Mathis level of play. 5 Pro-bowls

28. Lawrence Jackson- will be similar to Mike Rucker, he will be under valued but will be a guy who gives you 6-7 sacks a year while still playing the run.

29. Kentwan Balmer- Bust he will be very unsuccessful, Jonathan Sullivan 2.0

30. Dustin Keller- Will be a above average TE, he will play all over the place and cause problems. 2 Pro- bowls

31. Kenny Phillips- Will be the Giants leader on defense and will become known as one of the best safeties in the game. 4 Pro-Bowls
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The lack of Balmer love has me a bit concerned....
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Lions:
Gosder Cherilus - Decent Starter but would be a a starter on 90% of teams in the league

Jordan Dizon - folk hero in detroit, makes a pro bowl maybe racks up big numbers alongside ernie sims

Kevin Smith - Stud, but like fred taylor gets jipped out of several prow bowls, reliable for 1100 a year

Andre Fluellen - Solid Starter, but nothing flashy

Cliff Avril - See: Robert Mathis

HOF'ers:
Brandon Flowers: plays a lot faster than he was timed and will be a shut down corner for the chiefs

Ryan Clady: Lifelong bronco, perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme, dominant LT

Jake/Chris Long: The most dominant players at their position for the next decade.

Notable Successes:

James Hardy: Simply a Freak, has the size to dominate year in and year out

Rashard Mendehall: Eventually pushes Parker to the curb and becomes a legend in the steal city

Sweed: See: James Hardy

Busts:
Matt Ryan: Bust, is walking into hell, no o-line and not too many weapons either, fate similar to Joey Harrington

Dorsey: Reminds me a lot of Ryan Sims, sorry Chiefs fans

Gholston: Won't be terrible but will journey around the league and will be known as a David Boston-esque physical speciman who never panned out
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I don't like all this negativity about Derrick Harvey.
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Lions:
Gosder Cherilus - Decent Starter but would be a a starter on 90% of teams in the league

Jordan Dizon - folk hero in detroit, makes a pro bowl maybe racks up big numbers alongside ernie sims

Kevin Smith - Stud, but like fred taylor gets jipped out of several prow bowls, reliable for 1100 a year

Andre Fluellen - Solid Starter, but nothing flashy

Cliff Avril - See: Robert Mathis

HOF'ers:
Brandon Flowers: plays a lot faster than he was timed and will be a shut down corner for the chiefs

Ryan Clady: Lifelong bronco, perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme, dominant LT

Jake/Chris Long: The most dominant players at their position for the next decade.

Notable Successes:

James Hardy: Simply a Freak, has the size to dominate year in and year out

Rashard Mendehall: Eventually pushes Parker to the curb and becomes a legend in the steal city

Sweed: See: James Hardy

Busts:
Matt Ryan: Bust, is walking into hell, no o-line and not too many weapons either, fate similar to Joey Harrington

Dorsey: Reminds me a lot of Ryan Sims, sorry Chiefs fans

Gholston: Won't be terrible but will journey around the league and will be known as a David Boston-esque physical speciman who never panned out
Dorsey reminds you of Ryan Sims? How? Ryan Sims was a fat piece of crap who looked good at North Carolina because of Julius Peppers. No comparison at all to Ryan Sims.
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Matt Ryan = will either be the next Joey Harrington or the next Tom Brady
Sam Baker = will be either the next Matt Lepsis (10 year starter in Denver, a couple pro bowls, and underrated his whole career) or he will be the next Kwame Harris
Curtis Lofton = Worst case I see for him is an above average starter level similar to a Fulton Kuykendall type. best case I see is another 5-7 time pro bowl linebacker in Atlanta like Jesse Tuggle, Keith Brooking or Tommy Nobis. not a big feat to some, but if we got another one of those 3 in Lofton, we would 100% love the pick. and we think we did.
Chevis Jackson = should at worst be the nickel for a long time. at best the #2 CB for a long time. low ceiling, but high floor.
Harry Douglas = Will either be a pro bowl WR and develop so fast we had no way of seeing it coming like a Marques Colston or he will be the guy who is a PR./KR and slotman his career.
Thomas Decoud = will backup FS this year. then start in 2009 forcing Coleman to play SS. should be a solid starter throughout his career.
Robert James = backup at WLB. may be cut this offseason
Kroy Bierman = backup at RE and SLB. shoudl be around for 2-3 years
Thomas Brown = backup RB/KR. may be aroudn for a few years, then done
Wilrey Fontenot = backup/barely makign team as #5 CB this year. cut next.
Keith Zinger = career backup/barely makign the team every year as a blocker
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Anyone wanna do a round 2??? :)

p.s. Im loving the love for Mendy and Sweed!!! You guys rock! :p
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Darren McFadden: Over the next 5 years he totals 7000 yards rushing and 65 td's but gets injured and moves to fullbach. Bulks up and becomes and faster and more dominant Lorenzo Neal.

Calais Campbell: Spends his first 2 years at a rotational role at DE, and finaly moves to the NT position that his body craves. He'll be HOF.

Josh Johnson: Bulks up to a 260 and becomes the faster, but more explosive Jamarcus Russel, leads Bucs to back-to-back superbowl wins:
Avg 3000 yards passing and 800 yard rushing.
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