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Old 04-29-2008, 02:59 PM    (permalink
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Chris Wells is a big bruiser who can run outside with the best of them. In fact most of his best runs were when he went off tackle or on sweeps. Beanie is about as good of a homerun hitter at RB that you will ever find from a guy that big. He will run in the 4.4s or low 4.5s at 235+ lbs. One of his question marks is definitely not his homerun big play ability, b/c once he gets in the secondary he will either kill a DB by stiff arming them or daring them to try and tackle him. Did you watch the LSU and Michigan games, or any Ohio State game for that matter? His breakaway speed is a notch below AD's of course, but he has much more power and strength than any top back we've seen in a while. Oh how I wish the Browns had a shot at him. I'd say Detroit or Chicago are probably the favorites to get him should they pick in the top ten.
His long runs were, for the most part, a product of bad angles and good calls.
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First of al, your sig is massive. Take that down.

Also, a guard for #1?! Hah!
Read my original post, Top Ten. Somebody will go after him up there if its a need. Number one will belong to Oher or a quarterback.
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Does Tebow really project to the pro ranks? Also, what is this I hear about Curtis Painter being projected as a first rounder? Painter is extremely mediocre. He has a gun, but he can't put it where it needs to be sometimes.
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Does Tebow really project to the pro ranks? Also, what is this I hear about Curtis Painter being projected as a first rounder? Painter is extremely mediocre. He has a gun, but he can't put it where it needs to be sometimes.
Tebow's got a very similar skill set to Donovan McNabb, and McNabb's done well for himself.
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Maybe athletic ability. I wouldnt say skill set though. His speed may be similar to Donovan McNabb's but I would say that is about it. His throwing motion and playing style hurt him alot, prospect wise. He isnt going to get by in the NFL by trucking LBs and what not. Also his throwing motion takes forever to get the ball out of his hands. He can improve that this year, but if he doesnt, it will be a large hinderance. Also, he plays in an Urban offense, which I am sure some scouts will be wary of.

I think if he comes out this year (which he shouldnt) he will be most likely a 2nd - 3rd rounder, despite his college success. If he can stay still his senior year and show a better throwing motion and have more pocket presence, I can see him as a top pick.

A pro style QB that I really like is Matthew Stafford. He has a huge arm and has a good feel for the game. He needs to get more consistent too. I think he can come out next year though and take advantage of what may be a weak senior QB class.
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Ole Miss with two top 20 picks in Oher and Greg Hardy, I like it. Hardy is really a guy to look out for, like Oher if Ole Miss wins some games this year people will really see how good Hardy is. He is a 6-5 260 DE/LB who plays is so athletic that he caught 2 TDs at WR last year and was the basketball team's sixth man as a freshman. If he comes out early, watch out for him, he is a beast. He was a freshman All-American and was on numerous AA teams last year after leading the SEC in sacks as a sophmore. He is top ten material if he keeps putting up the numbers, his athleticism is off the charts. He is the guy I have been raving about and will continue to rave about, he is the real deal.
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Mike Oher is a very special athlete, he is definitely one of the most athletic OL prospects in recent memory. Taylor Mays, Beanie, and Maulaluga are all potential "freaks" too. I think Michael Johnson is a solid player and a great athlete, but I don't know if he is top 10 material as of now.
I know Oher is. Thats why I said Oher, or another guy that really shoots up the boards because of athletic ability.
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His long runs were, for the most part, a product of bad angles and good calls.
You honestly think a player produced solely because people failed to tackle him, through no ability of the RB and officials couldn't find their flags?
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His long runs were, for the most part, a product of bad angles and good calls.
No, they're a product of his amazingness, awesomeness and ridiculous greatness rolled into one. Chris Wells is the real deal. I'm still having nightmares of him rolling through the Michigan defense.
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Does Tebow really project to the pro ranks? Also, what is this I hear about Curtis Painter being projected as a first rounder? Painter is extremely mediocre. He has a gun, but he can't put it where it needs to be sometimes.
Curtis Painter is a consistent QB that may not be highlight reel material but gets the job done. He had a 62.6 completion percentage this past season, but he did lose Keller and Bryant so we'll see how his numbers are this year. I have him as the #2 ranked senior QB behind Cullen Harper and slightly ahead of Chase Holbrook
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Stafford could bump up to that spot, he could caplitalize on the senior QB class, and a team could take him there on potential if he shows he can be consistent this year and make good decisions...I'm not betting on a LB to go #1 overall, I'd put my money on LT or QB first...Stafford or Oher.
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Curtis Painter is a consistent QB that may not be highlight reel material but gets the job done. He had a 62.6 completion percentage this past season, but he did lose Keller and Bryant so we'll see how his numbers are this year. I have him as the #2 ranked senior QB behind Cullen Harper and slightly ahead of Chase Holbrook
I've watched his entire career, nothing has ever really stood out to me to make me think "this guy is going to do things at the next level". Painter has had an overabundance of talent to work with as well, especially in comparison to other Boilermaker QBs. Drew Brees had very little to work with, Kyle Orton got the job done with Taylor Stubblefield. Painter has had Selwyn Lymon (and I'm utterly baffled as to why this guy hasn't been used more, watch for him to have a breakout year), Dustin Keller, and Dorien Bryant to work with. Put Brees or Orton in that situation and they're competing for a Heisman. If Painter is ranked as a 1st round prospect by the end of the year, either he'll have dramatically improved or it will be a sad statement about the utter lack of talent at the QB position in the 2009 draft.
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I've watched his entire career, nothing has ever really stood out to me to make me think "this guy is going to do things at the next level". Painter has had an overabundance of talent to work with as well, especially in comparison to other Boilermaker QBs. Drew Brees had very little to work with, Kyle Orton got the job done with Taylor Stubblefield. Painter has had Selwyn Lymon (and I'm utterly baffled as to why this guy hasn't been used more, watch for him to have a breakout year), Dustin Keller, and Dorien Bryant to work with. Put Brees or Orton in that situation and they're competing for a Heisman. If Painter is ranked as a 1st round prospect by the end of the year, either he'll have dramatically improved or it will be a sad statement about the utter lack of talent at the QB position in the 2009 draft.
Painter has pretty good fundamentals, not the strongest arm in the world but he has very accuracy, goes through his progressions and breaks down the defense very well, and he has a good presence about him. This senior class of QBs is not very strong so giving him a higher rating compared to everyone else in the class is saying a little bit but not too much. This class is less talented than the last one and I think Painter is slightly better than John David Booty at this point in time.

I've just spent about an hour looking at tape on him and i've started to pinpoint some concerns...he's dropped to 5th for me at the moment, but it's so tight in the top 6 or 7
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@ 6'4 - 248 lbs - 40 yard: 4.23 the guy is a freak at safety. He will be shutdown.

If the Eagles, panthers or a team like that selects first I have no doubt. Dont rule out giving him some time doing trick plays at offence.
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No, they're a product of his amazingness, awesomeness and ridiculous greatness rolled into one. Chris Wells is the real deal. I'm still having nightmares of him rolling through the Michigan defense.
Chris Wells is an incredible player, but his speed is his flaw, and I'm not saying it's right, but teams won't like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lylP9...eature=related

He's caught from behind time after time on this highlight reel. I love the guy, but he won't go #1.
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Beanie has 4.45-4.5 speed and has more breakaway speed than any other back that big and strong I've ever seen. Truly a rare prospect with the stiff arm from hell and the ability to really knock any DB on his butt. All the times he gets "caught from behind" on video the guy is a DB who has an angle on him or he is busy trying to avoid traffic in the open field ahead of him and has to slow up. In other words you gotta be crazy to think the pros are gonna question his speed, at his size his speed is definitely above average. A much better version of Jamal Lewis coming out and even a better prospect for the pros than McFadden. Not quite as elite as Peterson, but not the injury red flags either. Could go #1 overall if a team like Detroit or Chicago picks #1, but RBs don't usually go #1 overall. Top 10 lock, more likely top 5.
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Chris Wells is an incredible player, but his speed is his flaw, and I'm not saying it's right, but teams won't like that.

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He's caught from behind time after time on this highlight reel. I love the guy, but he won't go #1.
Out of the times he was "caught from behind"

1st play: was slowing down to stiff arm someone

2nd play: was breaking away, guy made a desperation tackle and barely threw off his balance

and that was it. If anything that supports Beanie Wells's speed, just look how quickly he explodes out of the box when he sees open field.
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Taylor Mays:

@ 6'4 - 248 lbs - 40 yard: 4.23 the guy is a freak at safety. He will be shutdown.

If the Eagles, panthers or a team like that selects first I have no doubt. Dont rule out giving him some time doing trick plays at offence.
LOL at the weight. Mays is 225-235, and I doubt that 4.23 is legit even though that's what SC coaches timed him at

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Out of the times he was "caught from behind"

1st play: was slowing down to stiff arm someone

2nd play: was breaking away, guy made a desperation tackle and barely threw off his balance

and that was it. If anything that supports Beanie Wells's speed, just look how quickly he explodes out of the box when he sees open field.
Beanie Wells makes me want to go into a corner and hide....His first couple steps are just unreal especially for a man his size
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I am on the Matt Stafford number 1 overall bandwagon. I really like his game, but he needs to show consistency this year. Hopefully with better WRs, he will show his great skill set. He makes some great throws and is pretty mobile too. I really like him. Next years QB and OT class look really good.
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I am on the Matt Stafford number 1 overall bandwagon. I really like his game, but he needs to show consistency this year. Hopefully with better WRs, he will show his great skill set. He makes some great throws and is pretty mobile too. I really like him. Next years QB and OT class look really good.
The OT class (assuming all declare) looks outstanding. Andre Smith, Ciron Black, Alex Boone, Michael Oher etc....
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