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Old 05-02-2008, 09:19 PM    (permalink
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Default NFC East DB Rankings

Post yours.

Can someone from each team post the DB depth chart?

Cowboys:

CB Terence Newman / Mike Jenkins
CB Anthony Henry / Orlando Scandrick
NB Adam Jones / Alan Ball
FS Ken Hamlin / Pat Watkins
SS Roy Williams / Courtney Brown

Eagles:

CB Asante Samuel / Joselio Hanson
CB Lito Sheppard / Nick Graham
CB Sheldon Brown / Tarnard Davis
FS Brian Dawkins / Quintin Demps
SS Sean Considine / Quintin Mikell

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D were you looking for individual player rankings, or team rankings as a unit?
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As far as teams go:

1. Eagles
2. Cowboys
3. Giants
4. Redskins
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2) Redskins
3) Cowboys
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3) Cowboys
4) Giants
Wow, are you serious? How can you possibly justify the Redskins corners being better than the Cowboys? Washington isn't even close to being equal to them, sure as hell not above them.

I'd rank them:
1. Dallas
2. Philadelphia
3. New York
4. Washington
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1.)Eagles
2.)Cowboys
3.)Giants
4.)Redskins

Eagles Depth Chart

CB- Asante Samuel, Joselio Hanson
CB- Lito Sheppard, Nick Graham
CB- Sheldon Brown, Tarnard Davis
FS- Brian Dawkins, Quintin Demps
SS- Sean Considine, Quintin Mikell
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1-Dallas
2-Philadelphia
3-New York
4-Washington

Dallas wins because they have more quality depth at corner and superior safeties

And i really like how webster played for the giants during their super bowl run
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1-Dallas
2-Philadelphia
3-New York
4-Washington

Dallas wins because they have more quality depth at corner and superior safeties

And i really like how webster played for the giants during their super bowl run
If only that were true.
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LOL superior safeties...thats called ST(RIP) and Laron...

Skins:

CB: Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, Justin Tryon, Leigh Torrence
SS: Laron Landry, Vernon Fox
FS: Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore, Chris Horton
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1-Dallas
2-Philadelphia
3-New York
4-Washington

Dallas wins because they have more quality depth at corner and superior safeties

And i really like how webster played for the giants during their super bowl run
lol....

First, the giants secondary was good because there pass rush was so good.... Second Philly traded away lito sheppard third dallas has roy williams. I'll say that dallas may have the CB tandem... but not by much....
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Actually, Quentin Mikell is likely the starter at SS with Considine as the #2.
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Wow, are you serious? How can you possibly justify the Redskins corners being better than the Cowboys? Washington isn't even close to being equal to them, sure as hell not above them.

I'd rank them:
1. Dallas
2. Philadelphia
3. New York
4. Washington
Ummm... because of Roy Williams

Rodgers (if healthy), Smoot and Springs is a good trio. Not as good as Dallas' but Laron Landry should emerge as one of the best Safeties in the league next year.
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1) Eagles
2) Cowboys (Even though both safeties should not have been in the PB and RW should not even start on an NFL team)
3) Redskins
4) Giants
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Second Philly traded away lito sheppard
I must have missed this trade...
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3) Redskins
4) Giants
Who should have been in the pro bowl from the NFC over Hamlin?
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I must have missed this trade...
I know, really...I mean honestly. This McBain dude needs to think a little harder.
Heres how I rank it.
Eagles
Cowboys
Redskins
Giants.
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Actually, Quentin Mikell is likely the starter at SS with Considine as the #2.
It is pretty close right now, it could go to anyone, but Considine seems to be the favorite if you ask me.
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If only that were true.
Dallas Starting safeties-Ken Hamlin(pro bowler)
Roy williams(pro bowler though admittedly not as
good as he was but till has tons of
potential to make a comeback)

Philly Starting Safeties- Brian Dawkins(old and past his prime)
Quintin Mikell( who?)

Washington Starting Safeties
Laron Landry( Future all pro safety)
Rees Doughty( enough said)

New York Football Giants Starting Safeties
Kenny Philips(good potential but not expected to be the next ed reid but will be very good)
James Butler(average nfl starter)

Too bad the cowboys DO have superior safeties and it is obvious that the cowboys have the better corners in the division if not the league so that isnt even worth arguing about
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lol....

First, the giants secondary was good because there pass rush was so good.... Second Philly traded away lito sheppard third dallas has roy williams. I'll say that dallas may have the CB tandem... but not by much....
I dont recall philly trading away sheppard yet and the cowboys dont win the corners by much? name some quality backup corners behind asante samuel and lito sheppard or sam madison and aaron ross i can think of one jason webster and that is it the cowboys have newman(espn all pro, pro bowler) Pacman, Anthony henry led league in ints halfway through season but fell due to injury, Mike freakin Jenkins, Orlando scandrick is our 5th cb...so they win by alot,

see above response on safeties to disprove your point even more
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Dallas Starting safeties-Ken Hamlin(pro bowler)
Roy williams(pro bowler though admittedly not as
good as he was but till has tons of
potential to make a comeback)

Philly Starting Safeties- Brian Dawkins(old and past his prime)
Quintin Mikell( who?)

Washington Starting Safeties
Laron Landry( Future all pro safety)
Rees Doughty( enough said)

New York Football Giants Starting Safeties
Kenny Philips(good potential but not expected to be the next ed reid but will be very good)
James Butler(average nfl starter)

Too bad the cowboys DO have superior safeties and it is obvious that the cowboys have the better corners in the division if not the league so that isnt even worth arguing about
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Dallas Starting safeties-Ken Hamlin(pro bowler)
Roy williams(pro bowler though admittedly not as
good as he was but till has tons of
potential to make a comeback)

Philly Starting Safeties- Brian Dawkins(old and past his prime)
Quintin Mikell( who?)

Washington Starting Safeties
Laron Landry( Future all pro safety)
Rees Doughty( enough said)

New York Football Giants Starting Safeties
Kenny Philips(good potential but not expected to be the next ed reid but will be very good)
James Butler(average nfl starter)

Too bad the cowboys DO have superior safeties and it is obvious that the cowboys have the better corners in the division if not the league so that isnt even worth arguing about
Not being a homer, but here is how I see it going this year. Dawkins is still the best S in the division, better than both of the Giants Safeties combined right now. Redskins have the second best S in the division already in Landry, and with Doughty in there, Dawk may be better than both of those two, though it is very close. The sad thing is though, if not for the Sean Taylor tragedy, it wouldn't even be a contest, the Skins would be ahead overall by a mile. Cowboys have the third best S in Hamlin, but Roy (I'll let Cowboy fans fill in that blank) I don't know why there are so many people who automatically think Mikell is going to win the SS spot for the Eagles, but if you ask me, Considine will win it out. Here is how I rank the Starting Safeties in the NFC East.
1. Brian Dawkins. Even with aging, he still is the best in the division, though if he sticks around, not for long.
2. Laron Landry. Already #2 in the division, and this time next year will be #1, maybe even in the entire league. Already very close to #1.
3. Ken Hamlin. Solid FA pickup last year by the boys, don't know how long he will be around though.
4. Roy Williams. Actually one of my favorite players in the league, though very one-dimensional to say the least.
5. Kenny Phillips. One of my favorite players in this years draft. Though nto expected to be an Ed Reed or Laron Landry, but will be an above average starter. In two or three years, he could be #2 or #3 on this list.
6. Sean Considine. An above average starter at SS, though not really noticed or cared for by most Eagles fans. Even if Mikell would win, he would take the #6 spot.
7. James Butler. A solid starter, nothing special, but will get the job done.
8. Rees Doughty. Should probably be replaced in the near future. Shouldn't be starting, and won't be for long.

By those rankings, in one to eight, and averaging each teams starters, it is very close between the boys and Eagles, and the Skins will undoubtedly have the best S in two years, but for now, Lanrdy stacks up as a very close #2 behind Dawk. 1 and 2 are very close, 3 thorugh 6 are close, though not close enough to warrart any of those beign switched, IMO. Butler is a lock at 7, and Doughty...
Average Starter for the Giants (out of 8) =6
Average Starter for the Skins (out pf 8) =5
Average Starter for the Boys (out of 8) =3.5
Average Starter for the Eagles (out of 8) =3.5
Both the Eagles and boys are tied for the best S duo going by those numbers, now its just a matter of preference.
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The funny thing is that you are almost as bad as him. How anyone has Roy Williams ranked the 4th best safety in the division or even considers him a starter in the NFL is beyond me, it makes me question how much you know about football. And just like Amerker you refer to Reed Doughty as " Rees Doughty" so that makes me wonder if you even know who he really is and whether or not your comments are valid.
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Here's how I think the Gmen start the season

CB: Aaron Ross / Sam Madison
CB: Corey Webster / Tyrell Thomas
NB: Tyrell Thomas / Kevin Dockery
S: Kenny Phillips / James Butler
S: Sam Knight / Michael Johnson

As for rankings I'll go:
1. Eagles
3 high caliber starting corners and one of the league's best safeties in Dawkins, considine should be a solid starter.
2. Cowboys
Newman and Pacman can be an incredible duo, henry is good at playing the ball and Hamlin had a great bounceback season but I think his play comes back down a little this season and Roy Williams neeeds to be a nickel LB instead of a starting safety, unless he wants Shockey and Boss to embarass him.
3. Giants
We're young and unproven but we have a bunch of guys who fit our scheme and will excell with our pass rush. At safety Knight gives us a vet to help the young guys mentally and 2 young, raw safety's wth great potential in this scheme.
4. Skins
I understand those who rank them higher but I disagree, Landry played incredible when who took Taylor's spot, but I just can't imagine the corners to all still be playing by January.

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