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Old 12-08-2008, 08:08 PM    (permalink
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Some people say it really looks like Ohio State could finish with these guys:

QB-Tajh Boyd (5 stars)
DT-Corey Adams (5 stars)
OL-Marcus Hall (5 stars)
WR-Marlon Brown (5 stars)


if that happens, #1 class in the country.
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Notre Dame's Current Class:

3* ATH EJ Banks
4* OL Alex Bullard
3* LB Carlo Calabrese
2* OL/ST Jordan Cowart
3* TE Tyler Eifert
4* WR Shaq Evans
4* LB Dan Fox
2* TE Jake Golic
4* OL Zach Martin
4* LB Zeke Motta
3* ATH Nyshier Oliver
4* DB Marlon Pollard
4* RB Theo Riddick
4* DT Tyler Stockton
2* K Nick Tausch
3* P Ben Turk
4* OL Chris Watt
5* RB Cierre Wood

Charlie's recruiting confuses me just as mcuh as his coaching. We need DL BADLY. We have 1 DL in this class but we need more. We are out of it for Bonds, Custis, and LaLota (after he squashed the decommitment rumors). Target some lower 3* prospects with great film. I can't take this take the best skill position players but take the most overrated trench players style of recruiting.
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Some people say it really looks like Ohio State could finish with these guys:

QB-Tajh Boyd (5 stars)
DT-Corey Adams (5 stars)
OL-Marcus Hall (5 stars)
WR-Marlon Brown (5 stars)
CB-Jayron Hosley (4 stars)

if that happens, #1 class in the country.
Top 3 class but LSU and USC have the best classes by far this year.
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Tennessee could use a big WR like Marlon Brown, even though I'm kind of worried he might not live up to expectations considering how weak the competition he plays is.
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Old 12-17-2008, 06:11 PM    (permalink
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Top 3 class but LSU and USC have the best classes by far this year.
not necessarily. If we get those guys then we'll have 8 or 9 five stars (Bell, Fellows, Hall, Berry, Brown, Adams, Simon, Boyd and maybe Corey Brown if he gets upgraded) not to mention 14 Under Armour/US Army All American players. LSU and USC would have to get all the 5 stars they are currently targeting to pass Ohio State as the #1 class if we finish with those guys.
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Marlon Brown is a 4 star on Rivals for what it's worth. But some people prefer Scout I guess.
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Well Florida has no 5* guys at this point, but I think Mike Gillislee is the best we've got. His highlight reel is flat out insane.
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Marlon Brown is a 4 star on Rivals for what it's worth. But some people prefer Scout I guess.
in my book if you are a 5star on rivals or a 5star on scout, then you're a 5 star.

I think if things go like they should then I think Ohio State will probably have more top 100 guys and 5 stars than USC or LSU, but LSU and USC will have more top 10 and top 20 players. If that happens then it is pretty much a scenario that LSU or USC or OSU has the best recruiting class in the country arguably and they pretty much share a crown, though rivals, scout, espn, etc. like to give it to one school with their little points system. Looking like those 3 for sure in some order will be the top 3 with a pretty big distance between them and the 4th best class this year.
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not necessarily. If we get those guys then we'll have 8 or 9 five stars (Bell, Fellows, Hall, Berry, Brown, Adams, Simon, Boyd and maybe Corey Brown if he gets upgraded) not to mention 14 Under Armour/US Army All American players. LSU and USC would have to get all the 5 stars they are currently targeting to pass Ohio State as the #1 class if we finish with those guys.
Yea but keep in mind ur looking at Scouts rankings. They are very liberal with their stars. Especially with media darlings like OSU, USC and UF.

On rivals, ur holding at the top based on having more players currently commited, not because your players are better.

Once people start closing out their classes they will close the gap and some will pass.

Ur having a top 5 class but Im not sure youll be number 1. I think LSU could take that honor.
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Well Florida has no 5* guys at this point, but I think Mike Gillislee is the best we've got. His highlight reel is flat out insane.
Ull get Xavier Nixon and you have a good shot at Andre Debose and a few others but by and large ur class is a pretty big letdown with the year ur having.

Ull finish in the top 10 on ESPN because they wanna blow Tebow but ull bw outside looking in on the others.
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in my book if you are a 5star on rivals or a 5star on scout, then you're a 5 star.
Honestly, I think that's a bit ridiculous. You think there are 60 5-star players in the country? There are only 21 players that are rated 5-stars by both sites. Why do the 39 other guys get 5-star status instead of 4-star status when at least 1 of the sites think they are only 4-stars?
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Edited my list. It is on page 2. I believe the top 3 targets left for Penn State all end up there. Jenkins is the wild card as I think he is down to Florida and Penn State.
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Honestly, I think that's a bit ridiculous. You think there are 60 5-star players in the country? There are only 21 players that are rated 5-stars by both sites. Why do the 39 other guys get 5-star status instead of 4-star status when at least 1 of the sites think they are only 4-stars?
If I were a recruit and scout.com says I'm a 5 star, or if Rivals.com says I'm a 5 star, then I can tell people I'm a 5 star recruit truthfully. You can't discredit one or the other.
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Yea but keep in mind ur looking at Scouts rankings. They are very liberal with their stars. Especially with media darlings like OSU, USC and UF.

On rivals, ur holding at the top based on having more players currently commited, not because your players are better.

Once people start closing out their classes they will close the gap and some will pass.

Ur having a top 5 class but Im not sure youll be number 1. I think LSU could take that honor.
I really think if things finish as expected then we'll get #1 on scout's team rankings and probably #3 on rivals' behind USC and LSU. They do hand out 5 star and 4 star ratings more liberally, but that helps every team's avg. star ratings, not just ours. The thing is though I think Rivals rates the LSU and USC commits higher than scout does and scout has some Buckeye commits rated higher than they are on rivals.
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wvu commits---18

3* rb shawne alston (had 900 yds in playoffs, incl. 240 in champ game; boyds teammate)
3* wr stedman bailey (smith's teammate)
3* ol cole bowers
3* lb branko busick
2* db darwin cook (sleeper in this class; will play our bandit safety; 20 sacks in each of the past 2 years)
3* dt dominik davenport (alston and boyds teammate)
3* ol pat eger
2* ol curtis feight
3* db terence gavin
3* rb daquan hargrett
4* wr logan heastie
3* ol nick kindler
4* wr deon long
3* db arthur render (juco; from miami northwestern---06 grad)
4* qb eugene smith
3* lb chris snook (not evaluated on rivals as fb; #2 fb according to scout; gonna play fb/te)
3* ol ryan spiker
3* ol jordan weingart

guesses for rest of class

4* rb tavon austin
4* de tevita finau (juco)
4* cb michael carter
3* cb brodrick jenkins
3* wr terrence moore
2* dl kadeem custis

guys that will play next year: alston, bailey, hargrett, heastie, long, smith, snook, finau, moore, austin

we dont have a big back which alston would fill; snook would be our starting fb; and our wr corp is terrible and heastie/long enrolling early; smith will win the #2 qb; finau will see significant time at de; hargrett/austin will play in the slot/return game
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Notre Dame's Current Class:

3* ATH EJ Banks
4* OL Alex Bullard
3* LB Carlo Calabrese
2* OL/ST Jordan Cowart
3* TE Tyler Eifert
4* WR Shaq Evans
4* LB Dan Fox
2* TE Jake Golic
4* OL Zach Martin
4* LB Zeke Motta
3* ATH Nyshier Oliver
4* DB Marlon Pollard
4* RB Theo Riddick
4* DT Tyler Stockton
2* K Nick Tausch
3* P Ben Turk
4* OL Chris Watt
5* RB Cierre Wood

Charlie's recruiting confuses me just as mcuh as his coaching. We need DL BADLY. We have 1 DL in this class but we need more. We are out of it for Bonds, Custis, and LaLota (after he squashed the decommitment rumors). Target some lower 3* prospects with great film. I can't take this take the best skill position players but take the most overrated trench players style of recruiting.
And id saddens me to say but i dont think we'll get much more. Surely we are pushing both Teo and Jenkins like crazy but I'd be pleasantly suprised when we get either. Well we are gonnna get a FB in either Toben Opurum or Tyler Gaffney abut that is not really a big difference maker in the class. 2010 is looking better. I'd love for us to reel in some more linemen on either side of the ball for this year though.
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Wanted this guy badly for Michigan. Nice get.
Zach Martin and Chris Watt as well. If we didn't recover with Schofield and Lewan (and hopefully Quinton Washington) we would be reeling from the losses we took to ND on the offensive line.
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Heres my final 9 for Miami at this point:

TE- Ray Ray Armstrong, Sanford (FL) Seminole 4*
OL- Jared Wheeler, Plantation (FL) Amercan Heritage 3*
OL- Malcolm Bunche, Newark (DE) Newark 3*
OL- Jermaine Johnson, Chatham (VA) Hargrave Military 5*
DE- Dyron Dye, Sanford (FL) Seminole 4*
CB- Demontre Hurst, Lancaster, (TX) Lancaster 3*
LB- Greg King, Memphis (TN) Melrose 3*

Plus 1 of:
WR- Rueben Randle, Bastrop (LA) Bastrop 5*
WR- Andre Debose, Sanford (FL) Seminole 5*

And 1 of:
OT- Andrew Tiller, Garden City (NY) Nassau CC 3*
OT- Sheldon Richardson, St. Louis (MO) Gateway 5*

Very confident on the 1st 6 listed. Not so much on King. However, I know we are looking for another LB and he seems be most likely option.

Feel good about getting 2 of Randle, Debose, Tiller and Richardson with me leaning towards Debose and Tiller at this point. But those seem to switch daily.
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Are Tiller and Bunche both down to Miami and Rutgers right now?
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Minnesota's recruiting class is beginning to take shape. I've heard "experts" from scouts and rivals predict that Brewster has a few big moves up his sleeve, but I'm not sure who that would be other than McNeal, Paige, and Leon.

Here are guys that have already committed:

QB: Moses Alipate (MN)
RB: Hasan Lipscomb (TX)
WR: Hayo Carpenter (CA), Bryant Allen (MO), Victor Keise (FL)
TE: Ra'shede Hageman (MN)
OL: Josh Champion (MN), Brooks Olsen (IN), Ed Olsen (MN), Jeff Willis (PA)
DE: Matt Garin (MN), Nick Rengel (MN)
DT: Joey Searcy (TX)
DB: Kerry Lewis (TX), Kenny Watkins (MI)
ATH: Kendell Gregory-McGhee (CO)
K: Dan Oreske

That's 17 total, plus Kevin Whaley, Sam Maresh, and Marquies Gray from last year, making it 20.

I'll confidently predict we get the following 6 players:
DT: Roy Philon (KY)
S/OLB: Anthony Leon (CA)
CB: Taikwon Paige (FL), Taj Johnson (CA), Turmour Battle (CO)
WR: Kris Lott (TX)

I'd like to think we'll get Bryce McNeal, but he keeps adding schools to his list, and has said in the past that he'd like to live in a different state for a while (which is perfectly understandable). There are probably 5 very legit options for McNeal. Michael Carter would be really nice too, but I think he's more likely to stay at Florida or go to West Virginia.

26 commits would put us about 5-6 over the top, but these things usually find a way of working themselves out.
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Are Tiller and Bunche both down to Miami and Rutgers right now?
Tiller is between the two but I think hes more of a backup to some of our other OT targets.

Weve been hearing Bunche is deciding between the Canes and Miami. lol.

He was considered a Miami lean even when he was commited to Rutgers.

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Tiller is between the two but I think hes more of a backup to some of our other OT targets.

Weve been hearing Bunche is deciding between the Canes and Miami. lol.

He was considered a Miami lan een when he was commited to Rutgers.
I knew he was pretty much off Rutgers but I was still hoping he would come. Looks like we might get Aboushi anyway.
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Yea Bunche should commit to us within a few weeks. He's just building suspense.

We should find out on Tiller soon tho. He's enrolling in Jan. I heard he's got 3 years of eligibility left tho. You hear anything about that?
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He's not enrolling in January. Redshirted this year due to injury.

I've heard Bunche is 50/50 but we'll see.
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