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Default Patriots’ Tom Brady 1st public interview since superbowl
Patriots’ Tom Brady lauds Giants; wants to get past Spygate

http://www.projo.com/patriots/conten...9.35782f5.html


Brady's first public interview since the superbowl ended. Good stuff.


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I thought it was a great interview. You can hear the whole thing here:

http://audio.weei.com/m/19873310/tom...uery,keyword=4
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I remember reading about the ESPN stuff other day, didn't know if it was threadworthy...But if he wants Spygate he as to blame his coach, he brought that on the team and gave people a reason to undermine their success.
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I am a big fan of the MTV comparison

ESPN started off specifically as a sports place with highlights and sports information, much like MTV started with music videos, but now it has turned into a big advertising, drama building, truely grabage channel outside of actual games and Baseball Tonight
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Well I know I call ESPN, BSPN because it's turned into a soap opera channel for guys and sports. I thought Brady's comparison to MTV was spot on. ESPN definitely, in my opinion, dropped in quality.
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You can watch ESPN News if you want just highlights. I'm not the biggest fan of ESPN but they have just grown their product. There is still a place for just highlights and it is ESPN News.
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Well I know I call ESPN, BSPN because it's turned into a soap opera channel for guys and sports. I thought Brady's comparison to MTV was spot on. ESPN definitely, in my opinion, dropped in quality.
I have to agree espn has dropped in quality.
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You can watch ESPN News if you want just highlights. I'm not the biggest fan of ESPN but they have just grown their product. There is still a place for just highlights and it is ESPN News.
Which is why ESPN News is set as my favorite channel on my TV.
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Which is why ESPN News is set as my favorite channel on my TV.
Especially now that it is in HD.
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Which is why ESPN News is set as my favorite channel on my TV.
It works out then. Because if that is what you want, you get in loop all day.
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I have to agree espn has dropped in quality.
I wonder though, when exactly did it drop in quality though? Was it the summer where TO was fighting with the Eagles organization? I guess I am relating it in football terms because I don't really watch any other sport that intently, but seems to me, and I could be wrong, that ESPN turned from a sports channel, to a drama channel during that TO drama. Somehow it became more than just reporting the news. It was like they loved the drama and showing it over, and over, and over again.
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I wonder though, when exactly did it drop in quality though? Was it the summer where TO was fighting with the Eagles organization? I guess I am relating it in football terms because I don't really watch any other sport that intently, but seems to me, and I could be wrong, that ESPN turned from a sports channel, to a drama channel during that TO drama. Somehow it became more than just reporting the news. It was like they loved the drama and showing it over, and over, and over again.
I don't think you can put your finger on one thing. Barry Bonds was probably a bigger story than TO. They assigned that one guy (whose name is slipping my right now) specifically to just Bonds. Also the success of shows like PTI, the success of the World Series of Poker, Playmakers, etc. These shows are being watched and making money so someone is liking it.
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I wonder though, when exactly did it drop in quality though? Was it the summer where TO was fighting with the Eagles organization? I guess I am relating it in football terms because I don't really watch any other sport that intently, but seems to me, and I could be wrong, that ESPN turned from a sports channel, to a drama channel during that TO drama. Somehow it became more than just reporting the news. It was like they loved the drama and showing it over, and over, and over again.
Im the same way all I really watch is football. I think you are right. It was the T.O thing that sparked it all. They were on that story like flies on ****. They aired him doing situps in his yard all kinds of crap. From that point on its really gone down hill. They just want to show the bad part of the NFL. Its getting old IMO
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I don't think you can put your finger on one thing. Barry Bonds was probably a bigger story than TO. They assigned that one guy (whose name is slipping my right now) specifically to just Bonds. Also the success of shows like PTI, the success of the World Series of Poker, Playmakers, etc. These shows are being watched and making money so someone is liking it.
Yeah now that I think about it Bonds was another big thing. Bonds and TO actually changed my mind about ESPN. Yeah those are big time sports guys, but there is a BIG difference in reporting it and being on that story 24/7. That's drama mongering, if there is such a term. Instead of citing it as part of sports news, they almost had a special panel of it just for them. It was almost their way of getting ratings.

"Stay tune for our discussion on TO or bonds after this commerical break"
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I remember when MTV was about the music *stares off nostalgically* . . . Wait, no I don't. 100 bucks says that in 5 years kids don't remember when espn was about the sport.
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Yeah now that I think about it Bonds was another big thing. Bonds and TO actually changed my mind about ESPN. Yeah those are big time sports guys, but there is a BIG difference in reporting it and being on that story 24/7. That's drama mongering, if there is such a term. Instead of citing it as part of sports news, they almost had a special panel of it just for them. It was almost their way of getting ratings.

"Stay tune for our discussion on TO or bonds after this commerical break"
They were big stories dealing with controversial superstars in the two biggest sports in America. They were going to give it air time. As for ESPN now they don't give highlights as much as some want but they give what most people want. How many threads are this board deals with rankings or power rankings. Or how much coverage did ESPN give you on mock drafts with McShay and Kiper arguing with each other. That seems to be a fair reflection of what most on this board like to talk about.

I never thought I would defend ESPN.
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They were big stories dealing with controversial superstars in the two biggest sports in America. They were going to give it air time. As for ESPN now they don't give highlights as much as some want but they give what most people want. How many threads are this board deals with rankings or power rankings. Or how much coverage did ESPN give you on mock drafts with McShay and Kiper arguing with each other. That seems to be a fair reflection of what most on this board like to talk about.

I never thought I would defend ESPN.
Yeah the biggest stories is a thing that should be followed and reported, but they seemed to take this to the extreme. It was like how the regular media follows celebrity stuff. One big one is Brittany Spears. This was a sports version of drama. This went on beyond reporting in my opinion. I felt like it just dragged on and on.

And if you want the good stuff, you have to be a member of ESPN insider, so that means the regular, on the surface stuff, is basically on the main site, but god forbid you wanted more, you had to pay to be a member. It's just my opinion, but ESPN changed at some point around this time with it's reporting, and HOW, and what length they took to report it.
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I remember when MTV was about the music *stares off nostalgically* . . . Wait, no I don't. 100 bucks says that in 5 years kids don't remember when espn was about the sport.
The sad thing is.... I remember when MTV2 was about the music.
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The growth of the insider changed espn for me, don't watch much tv, although I do follow every new house and southpark episode online, so for me the change happened when espn realized that people would pay to go to an actually sports website and so left the main pages to attract a larger audience, meaning none sports fans, so they brought in drama to get non sports fans on their main page. They've done the same thing on tv with their billion channels so their main channel has become more drama based to get more general audience as we sports fans will pay for our actual sports channels.
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The only thing i catch on ESPN now a days is PTI, Around the Horn, Jim Rome (only his "what i'm burning on" and "final burn" segments) and the games. Everything is else is complete garbage. NFL Live is a joke. Trey Wingo is an idiot. I love Mike & Mike but Golic is bringing that show down. I hate his ass.

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Ah but do you remember when MTV, not MTV2, was about the music? Cause I'll bet most people on here don't.
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Every time an athlete speaks out against ESPN's or the media's coverage they always report on it, but have a guest like on Around the Horn or 1st and 10 say how rediculous a statement such and such was. The problem ESPN has is that they believe, similar to other news outlets, that their viewer is re tarded, so they dumb down the information to flying graphics and :30 second discussions on topics that need 10 minutes. With that they self promote blow hards whose goal is to create controversy rather than be a reporter or give insight.

Blowhards like:
Skip Bayless
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Todd McShay (not enough time on air to be a true blow hard but his shock over information value is high)
Greg Easterbrook
Mike Fish
Doug Gotlieb
Mike Greenberg

They won't even let some of their better reporters criticize false or misleading statement made by some of these blowhards. Except to build controversy like McShay vs Kiper, and Sean Salisbury vs 'professor'.
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As much as I hate Brady and everything, I have to agree about ESPN, and the way it covers things lately. Although, it does work both ways...you have to wonder if Tom Brady gets the same legendary status he has now, without ESPN blowing up his story over and over again...
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Skip Bayless makes me hate ESPN enough, God I can't find myself to listen to that man more then a few minutes, he has is favorites, and he has guys he hates, so no matter what he topic or subject is he has th same POV...He seems to have a fetish for saying something negative about Lebron every chance he gets, first it was "he never makes any big shots", then if he makes a great pass to set up the winning shot its "he was scared to shoot the ball", then the other day he was complaining about Lebron celebrating after his dunk, like its not a playoff game and adrenaline flowing or anything It's like come on Skip, we all know you hate cetain guys, but your a sports analyst, aren't you supposed to cover topics and be un-biased? He makes me sick.


The rest of the guys are so watered down, its no real coverage anymore, I can't wait for Michael Vick to get out of jail so they can make a million headlines that start out "Are the Cowboys interested in Mike Vick"? I can already see it coming, when I have NFLNetword I rarely ever watch ESPN, espnews does the trick.
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