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Old 05-21-2008, 09:32 PM    (permalink
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T.O. is merely a jerry Rice puppil. Along with others like Jerry Porter. Rice is the Greatest he was a one man wrecking machine always open, never dropped a pass.

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No. Sorry. Definitely not.
Yeah. Smith was great and McCardell was good, but we never really had anyone past them
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Keenan McCardell and Jimmy Smith??

If they get consideration, then Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn should as well
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No Swann or Stallworth? I know they were a time where passing wasnt really a priority, but I do think they deserve to be on there.
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Any group that Troy Smith throws to should be on the list. :D
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That oline sure was dominant, especially in the superbowl, I can't believe how terrible Brady was given as much time as he was. Those giants CB sure a re dominant.
i'm not sure what is sarcasm and what is not. but the o-line was dominant as hell in the regular season. brady had like 10 seconds to throw the ball each and every play almost. soo...yea.
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No Swann or Stallworth? I know they were a time where passing wasnt really a priority, but I do think they deserve to be on there.
They were a part of the group that just missed the top ten, and I do see that they deserve consideration, but I can't see any group on the list being replaced by them either.
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2 redskins teams and joe gibbs on that number 1 offense, good list
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Bears 08 Receiving Corps > Air Coryell
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Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, Mike Williams?? Did they even get consideration???
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my thoughts exactly. didnt even need to get past the 2nd post, lol.

plus, when talking about the nfl, its not like baseball in that you can go back as far as you want and its pretty much fair comparisons. anything before the superbowl era should be compared only to other things of the same era and same goes for after teh start of that era.

dunno if i made sense there....idk. but to see groups from the 50's and such on there? cmon....im sure they were great in their time with teh way the game was played but by todays standards, theres no comparison
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Keenan McCardell and Jimmy Smith??

If they get consideration, then Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn should as well
that is my mistake....I thought we were discussing just two receivers....

I agree that we didn't really have anyone past those two...

although...for half a season we had Andre Rison, Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell....lol
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I'm so sorry. I completely forgot about Andre Rison. lol
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How about the SuperBowl Bills team..

Adre Reed, James Lofton, and Don BeeBee...

Two HOFs (or soon to be two) and one of the greatest slot recievers to play the game.
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I agree, Chris Carter and Randy Moss is so dominant, it's not even a contest.
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Is this a joke?
yes....that was an incredible dumb question
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Right, because I know every poster on this board and know when they're joking. Some people here actually think that. See guys like Incredible Draft Dude. But by all means, please keep answering questions that are specifically directed at other people.
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I agree Moss and Carter were a dynamic duo, but they are also some of the most recent ones, and fresher in alot of people's minds...But I agree in hindsight when looking at both of their final numbers they would have to be ranked higher.
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T.O. is merely a jerry Rice puppil. Along with others like Jerry Porter. Rice is the Greatest he was a one many wrecking machine always open, never dropped a pass.
Owens is at least going to be TOP 5 all-time in every single meaningful receiving category when he retires...That's a lot more than merely being a "puppil" (whatever that is.)

And my opinion is that Jerry Rice and John Taylor in the 80's was hands down the greatest WR duo ever...Two of the top 5 (maybe even top 3) YAC receivers of all-time on one team...While Moss alone was f'n ridiculous in 1998, a 33-year-old Cris Carter and Jake Reed don't compare to the impact Rice and John Taylor had on games in their hey-day.

Oh yeah, and Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce/Az Hakim at #2 is freakin' hilarious.

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I'm sort of surprised the Colts' receiving core is ranked that low, especially given the depth in comparison. Granted Peyton Manning makes them look better, that's a given, but Harrison has a Hall of Fame career in the regular season, Wayne is a stud year-round, and Clark is a weapon in the postseason (but didn't get to contribute much in 03 and 04 because of injuries, but he lead the team in postseason receiving yards in 06 when he played all 4 games). With Stokley in 04, they produced the only trio of 1K yards/10 TDs receivers in history, and now they have an even better receiver in Anthony Gonzalez.

Certainly I wouldn't have them ranked lower than the GSOT Rams receiving core, no way. I agree that they are way too high on that list.
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1986-1992 7 Seasons

"The Posse" Art Monk, Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders

1287 Receptions
19278 Yards
124 TD's

2 Superbowl Rings
10 1000 yard Seasons

If there has been a better Wide Receiver trio in football over a prolonged period I am not sure who they are.
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And my opinion is that Jerry Rice and John Taylor in the 80's was hands down the greatest WR duo ever
Were you actually there in the 1980's? I think your perception is somewhat off the mark.

John Taylor's breakout season and best season was 1989, the last year of the decade and consisted of 60 catches 1077 yards and 10 TD's. Before 89 he had 25 catches, 476 yards and 2 TD's in his 2 seasons in the league.

You disrespect an awful lot of great receiver duos with the above statement. Taylor played with the Greatest Receiver of all time, two of the greatest QB's in Montana and Young and managed just 347 catches 5598 yards and 43TD's in 9 seasons. That isn't the makings of a great duo, it is Jerry Rice plus a good receiver thats all.

The 49ers passing game in the 1980's was a mixture of some very good players at all positions all more impactful than Taylor. Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon, Roger Craig and Tom Rathman, oh yes lets not forget Jerry Rice.

Into the 90's Brent Jones was just as effective at the Tight End position as Taylor was at Wide Receiver.

On the face of it you can put any WR with Jerry Rice and call it a great duo actually it is the great Jerry Rice plus a.n.other. The closest to a truly great duo the niners had was the three seasons TO spent with Rice.
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This list is a joke. The Air Coryell receivers at #1?

Did anyone else notice that John Jefferson fell off the face of the earth after he left San Diego? That's because he wasn't that good--he was a product of a system, as were the rest of their wideouts. And last I checked, Kellen Winslow was a TE...so I don't count him.

I'm sure you know what I think of the "Greatest Show On Turf" Ram receivers. Not just Holt...but Hakim had quite possibly the worst hands in football...was a glorified Tim Dwight.

Late 90's Vikings trounce everything on this list, other than maybe the 50's Rams (I have no idea, I've never seen them) and Rice/Taylor.

A lot of these lists include two great receivers who just happened to have their careers overlap on the same team, but one of them was well past his prime (70's Raiders, 60's Redskins).
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Were you actually there in the 1980's? I think your perception is somewhat off the mark.

John Taylor's breakout season and best season was 1989, the last year of the decade and consisted of 60 catches 1077 yards and 10 TD's. Before 89 he had 25 catches, 476 yards and 2 TD's in his 2 seasons in the league.

You disrespect an awful lot of great receiver duos with the above statement. Taylor played with the Greatest Receiver of all time, two of the greatest QB's in Montana and Young and managed just 347 catches 5598 yards and 43TD's in 9 seasons. That isn't the makings of a great duo, it is Jerry Rice plus a good receiver thats all.

The 49ers passing game in the 1980's was a mixture of some very good players at all positions all more impactful than Taylor. Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon, Roger Craig and Tom Rathman, oh yes lets not forget Jerry Rice.

Into the 90's Brent Jones was just as effective at the Tight End position as Taylor was at Wide Receiver.

On the face of it you can put any WR with Jerry Rice and call it a great duo actually it is the great Jerry Rice plus a.n.other. The closest to a truly great duo the niners had was the three seasons TO spent with Rice.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about (and have clearly never seen John Taylor play) so you really need to just keep your figurative mouth closed. Your post is embarrassing.

Taylor's career went like this:

1986, rookie season--wiped out with back injury.
1987--Worked his way up from 4th receiver to actually starting a couple games.
1988--Was expected to start opposite Rice but was suspended for testing positive for cocaine. Missed first four games of the season, then didn't start until week 15 against Atlanta.
1989--Started opposite to Rice and recorded 60-1077-10 in only 15 games. The 49ers only threw the ball 482 times that season. He also caught a touchdown in both playoff games and the Super Bowl. Was selected for the Pro bowl. Huge, clutch plays galore.
1990--Through the first 4 games (in which he missed one of those games with an injury), he had 317 yards and 3 TDs. He went on to play in only 14 games, but that includes a game against Dallas in which he left in the 1st quarter after 1 catch for 17 yards. He still managed 49-748-7. As usual, tons of clutch plays.
1991--A 16 game season, caught 64-1011-9 as the #2 and was robbed of a Pro Bowl selection (Andre Rison got in over him). Steve Young missed 5 games (and wasn't a finished product yet) and he still performed.
1992--Broke his leg in week 3 after a really fast start out of the gate (torching Buffalo in week 2). Wasn't the same when he returned that year.
1993--56-940-5 as the #2 receiver...missed 3 quarters of the Bengals Sunday Night game with a stringer in his shoulder having only caught one pass for 15 yards.
1994--Played in only 15 games, caught 0 passes in the last game and only 1 in the second to last game (49ers were trying to get him healthy for the playoffs). Had his first truly down year of 41-531-5. He still made several extremely crucial catches that year.
1995--Last year of his career...played in only 12 games...still managed to make a few clutch plays.

Taylor was not only one of the greatest receivers ever, he was one of the most clutch--he had so many game winning touchdowns I lost count.

The 49ers only have 2 rings right now if not for Taylor. He was that important.

Oh, and also--teams usually put their #1 corner on Taylor (since he was the split end). Rice usually worked against lower-tier corners and linebackers (the exception would be Darrell Green, who almost always lined up on Rice during Niners/Redskins games). The fact that Taylor beat the likes of Deion Sanders, Dale Carter, Jerry Gray, Eric Allen, Carl Lee, Terry McDaniel, Chris Dishman, and Ricky Reynolds, speaks volumes about his ability (I can upload plays in which he has just flat-out beat each of these guys). You'd be hard-pressed to find plays of Rice beating a name corner.

Giving Rice credit for John Taylor is absolutely disgusting and shows that you never actually watched what took place on the field. Taylor made things happen himself...it had nothing to do with Rice. The most Rice ever did for Taylor was block down field (and of course, Taylor returned the favor many times).

And Brent Jones...more effective than Taylor? TOM RATHMAN? Just stop, now.

You're a step away from saying Derek Loville...since Rathman caught dumpoffs out of the backfield in the same way the former did...which doesn't really take any actual ability. Any half wit back can catch a lot of passes if they're thrown a lot of them in the flat.

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