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View Poll Results: Biggest Impact For New Team?
Jared Allen 47 34.31%
Michael Turner 15 10.95%
Bernard Berrian 5 3.65%
Alan Faneca 5 3.65%
Justin Smith 5 3.65%
Asante Samuel 8 5.84%
Deangelo Hall 10 7.30%
Shaun Rogers 8 5.84%
Jonathan Vilma 26 18.98%
Other 8 5.84%
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:48 PM    (permalink
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I'm sorry to do this, but out of Vilma you will see a lot of this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-mBdnV-iriY&feature=related

I loved Vilma, but he did get ran over, he was small and had trouble against big backs. David Harris is a better player. IMO
Jared Allen is more elite then Vilma, Allen was unblockable last year almost. He will have a great Impact, I have to mention Kris Jenkins also in there.
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I dont know why people put value into this argument:

QB Trent Edwards Rookie at time of game (Stanford)

RB Marshawn Lynch rookie at time of game (cal)

WR Lee Evans (wisconsin) *Only guy out of 5 major skill positions who came from cold climate

WR Josh Reed (LSU)

WR Roscoe Parrish (Miami)
So when was the last time Josh Reed played in the South? This game was at the end of the year, they had plenty of time to adjust to the cold, terrible excuse.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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I'm sorry to do this, but out of Vilma you will see a lot of this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-mBdnV-iriY&feature=related

I loved Vilma, but he did get ran over, he was small and had trouble against big backs. David Harris is a better player. IMO
Jared Allen is more elite then Vilma, Allen was unblockable last year almost. He will have a great Impact, I have to mention Kris Jenkins also in there.
So you judge a guy off of one play where one of the best backs in the league lowered his shoulder and pushed him back? I guess a Pro Bowl MLB isn't worth a damn these days. Don't be bitter just because your front office traded him to NO, where he will SHINE.

By the way, Kris Jenkins is a pile of garbage. He is a shell of his former self and will do nothing in NY, just like Dewayne Robertson did in NY.
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Edwards has a fine arm, he's no Russell but he's no where near as bad as guys like pennington, Garcia and Leinart, the coaching staff didn't call many plays down the field and that cost their OC his job. Edwards showed a quick release, coolness under pressure and that he went through his progressions quickly. I think he'll have a very good year but I saw a lot of him so maybe I've just seen enough to realize his positives.
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I am really curious as to how Michael Turner (and Matt Ryan actually) do in Atlanta.
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I am really curious as to how Michael Turner (and Matt Ryan actually) do in Atlanta.
I think if Ryan starts it will hurt MT he will see 8 and 9 in the box all the time teams will make Ryan beat them throwing can he?
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So when was the last time Josh Reed played in the South? This game was at the end of the year, they had plenty of time to adjust to the cold, terrible excuse.

My point was Trent Edwards is from Stanford.....Way to focus on Josh Reed bc he sure is the guy under center right????
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I pointed out the whole team dude. Way to try and put my post down, it didn't work. The entire team had PLENTY of time to adjust to the cold, very very very bad excuse from a Northern team.
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I pointed out the whole team dude. Way to try and put my post down, it didn't work. The entire team had PLENTY of time to adjust to the cold, very very very bad excuse from a Northern team.
Well Brett favre must suck in cold weather because he was terrible in the NFC title game.
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Way to read all the posts dude, good job. I just said cold weather was a terrible excuse for a team to lose. Once again, good job.
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Way to read all the posts dude, good job. I just said cold weather was a terrible excuse for a team to lose. Once again, good job.
Have you rver seen snow in person before? If so do you know what a whiteout is? If you do then realize that game was played in whiteout conditions.
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I have seen snow before. Not alot of it though. Both teams played in the same conditions, both are from Northern cold climates. Not an excuse for 1 team and not for the other.
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I have seen snow before. Not alot of it though. Both teams played in the same conditions, both are from Northern cold climates. Not an excuse for 1 team and not for the other.
Both teams struggled that game. The bills were worse but the bills had less talent so the weather impacted them more.
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How does weather impact one team more than the other? Because of the talent? That makes absolutely no sense. They played in the SAME weather. And a few of the Browns skill players are from the South by the way, that part of the argument is invalid as well.
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How does weather impact one team more than the other? Because of the talent? That makes absolutely no sense. They played in the SAME weather. And a few of the Browns skill players are from the South by the way, that part of the argument is invalid as well.
Um lemme break it down for you, when you're playing in bad weather you don't just suddenly become worse, you have another thing to overcome. So some players are better at handling the weather if you don't believe this look at games like the GB/NYG game. Cleveland did a better job beating the weather than buffalo did, i don't care what you think should've happened, but that's what happened. That was a crazy game and is an outlier for both teams in terms of their level of play.
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They were both playing in the same conditions. It's not like a Florida team was playing up north. There's no use in arguing since I don't even know what this argument is about anymore.
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