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View Poll Results: Best Division
AFC NORTH 11 7.64%
AFC SOUTH 57 39.58%
AFC EAST 3 2.08%
AFC WEST 5 3.47%
NFC NORTH 5 3.47%
NFC SOUTH 3 2.08%
NFC EAST 56 38.89%
NFC WEST 4 2.78%
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I go with the AFC South. Every one of those teams can get over .500 in the same year. NFC East im kinda iffy on. You can always count on the Redskins to blow it. Dallas is up and down and mostly overrated even though i have them going to the SB at this point in time. Something is always wrong in Philly. No Wr, Westbrook gets hurt, McNabb gets hurt. Even though i think they are almost better without McNabb
How healthy was Schaub last year? How about Ahman Green? Hell even Andre Johnson has had 2 knee scopes in the past 6 months, Dunta Robinson might start on the PUP, and they have no safeties, that long list of questions is alot lengthier then anything the Eagles have...They are far from a lock to be sucessful.
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Westbrook gets hurt
Westbrook might sit out practice to rest his injuries, but I don't really recall him missing significant time lately. He missed one game last year and still ended up with the most yards from scrimmage in the NFL.

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Even though i think they are almost better without McNabb
How do you figure that?
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For what it's worth, the NFC East and AFC South faced each other in 2006.

AFC South teams won 9 of the games, NFC East won 7.
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I really hope you aren't ranking the Titans above the Jaguars.
Heh, yeah, god forbid someone had a positive outlook for the 08 Titans. It would certainly be one of the first around here if that were the case, but I think he was just randomly listing the teams.
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AFC South #1 by a good amount and then NFC East in 2nd by a good amount to any one else.

NFC East is good and obviously has the super bowl rep, but I think if you take the elite teams of the division and pair them up, I'd take the following teams...

Colts vs. Cowboys - Colts
Jags vs. Giants - Toss up
Titans vs. Eagles - Titans
Texans vs. Redskins - Toss up

Be reminded, this is what I think of 2008, not the 2007 season, I understand that the Giants won the super bowl and are a great team, I just don't know if they would ever be able to put a post season run like that in again (no disrespect meant to the Giants, they're a great team.)
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AFC South #1 by a good amount and then NFC East in 2nd by a good amount to any one else.

NFC East is good and obviously has the super bowl rep, but I think if you take the elite teams of the division and pair them up, I'd take the following teams...

Colts vs. Cowboys - Colts
Jags vs. Giants - Toss up
Titans vs. Eagles - Titans
Texans vs. Redskins - Toss up

Be reminded, this is what I think of 2008, not the 2007 season, I understand that the Giants won the super bowl and are a great team, I just don't know if they would ever be able to put a post season run like that in again (no disrespect meant to the Giants, they're a great team.)


Funny you give the Colts/Cowboys edge to the Colts yet we broke their undefeated record the last time we played, and the 3-4 defense gives Manning all sorts of fits...I just think its funny how some people say toss up, or pick one team one way or the other unless its fairly obvious who is better...How is Tennessee and Philly not a toss up at best?
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Titans vs. Eagles - Titans


Be reminded, this is what I think of 2008, not the 2007 season
You know you have a bad receiving corps when Philly's is better than yours. Truth be told, I don't see Tennessee being as complete a team as Philadelphia (yes, call me a homer. Whatever) Philadelphia has a legit top 10 defense, the most productive RB in the game last season, a good OL, and some better than the Titans' guys at WR. Plus, right now, McNabb is finally healthy and until Vince Young proves to be better than what I give him credit for, McNabb>Young.
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Right, on paper the Eagles are better than the Titans and could very well be in reality too, but the thing is, on paper most teams seem better than the Titans, and the Titans are coming off a playoff season. It's just how they are. The way the D played last season with AH, they could compete with anybody.
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How do you judge the best division?

Head-to-head? Competitiveness?

Head-to-head, I think the AFC South gets the nod...barely. Indianapolis and Jacksonville have a chance (I said, a CHANCE) to sweep the NFC East. Besides Dallas, I don't think anybody has a real chance to sweep the AFC South.

Competitiveness though has got to be the NFC East and they got my vote. Although head-to-head is close and could have many toss ups, I like a competitive division. We all know how the South is gonna be: Indy, Jax, Tenn, Hou in that order. The NFC East can have any one of its teams be a champion. That with the fact that the defending NFL Champs will be in the division and I'll take the NFC East.
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How healthy was Schaub last year? How about Ahman Green? Hell even Andre Johnson has had 2 knee scopes in the past 6 months, Dunta Robinson might start on the PUP, and they have no safeties, that long list of questions is alot lengthier then anything the Eagles have...They are far from a lock to be sucessful.
Just FYI Andre did not have two knee scopes. After the injury he did not have any surgery and came back by the end of the season pretty much in top form. Over the off-season apparently there was some lingering discomfort that they hoped would go away but after mini camp decided the best option was to go ahead and get it scoped. He has pretty much never been injured outside of this in his entire career, pro and college.

Ahman Green on the other hand is a very good bet to be injured at least once during the course of the year.
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Just FYI Andre did not have two knee scopes. After the injury he did not have any surgery and came back by the end of the season pretty much in top form. Over the off-season apparently there was some lingering discomfort that they hoped would go away but after mini camp decided the best option was to go ahead and get it scoped. He has pretty much never been injured outside of this in his entire career, pro and college.

Ahman Green on the other hand is a very good bet to be injured at least once during the course of the year.


Whatever the exact procedures were, they had to cut into his knee twice over a 12 month span, not that it means his career is done or he is injury prone, but its never a good thing when it starts.
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We all know how the South is gonna be: Indy, Jax, Tenn, Hou in that order.
Just like the NFC East was going to be Philidelphia - Dallas - New York - Washington last year, right? Right?
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Just like the NFC East was going to be Philidelphia - Dallas - New York - Washington last year, right? Right?
How long has Indy been winning the division? You can't even argue that point, the winner of the NFC East changes every year so no one expects the order to be a certain way...I can't remember the last time someone expected another team other then Indy to win the division...Not that its bad for the division, but its alot more predictable then the East ever was, and nobody thought the NFC East was going to finish that way last year...Philly didn't make the playoffs the year before, I doubt many assumed they would win the division.
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Whatever the exact procedures were, they had to cut into his knee twice over a 12 month span, not that it means his career is done or he is injury prone, but its never a good thing when it starts.
Thats what I'm trying to tell you, it was only one procedure. Single. Uno. Why do you think he has had two surgeries anyway?
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How long has Indy been winning the division? You can't even argue that point, the winner of the NFC East changes every year so no one expects the order to be a certain way...I can't remember the last time someone expected another team other then Indy to win the division...Not that its bad for the division, but its alot more predictable then the East ever was, and nobody thought the NFC East was going to finish that way last year...Philly didn't make the playoffs the year before, I doubt many assumed they would win the division.
Just like Philly won the NFC East all those times, right? Of course they'd stay on top!
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Thats what I'm trying to tell you, it was only one procedure. Single. Uno. Why do you think he has had two surgeries anyway?
In the middle of the season he sprained his MCL and PCL and had fluid drained from his knee, then this off season he had arthroscopic knee surgery, technically yes its only one surgery, but you still have to go under the knife to get your knee drained, and thats twice within the past year his knee has bothered him...Lets not act like this is meaningless, alot of times once your knee starts to act up it is reoccuring, and at this point neither you nor I know how it will affect him going forward, which leads me to my original point of the Texans having alot more question marks surround their team then the Eagles.





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Just like Philly won the NFC East all those times, right? Of course they'd stay on top!
Thats my mistake, I thought the discussion at hand was current and up to date, not previous years...Again, how long has Indy been winning the division again? Since you skipped over that question...As good as the Jags may be, when they start to win some division titles they and taht division will start to get more respect, but when the other 3 teams are consistently fighting for wild card berths you won't.
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I don't think it's absolutely out of the question for the Jags to win the division, but I certainly wouldn't wager on it. Let's be fair, the AFC South has only been around since 2002, and the Jags are probably the best they've been since the Colts became their division foe.

I think the Colts end up atop the division, but stranger things have happened.
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Thats my mistake, I thought the discussion at hand was current and up to date, not previous years.
Exactly...
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Realistically, the AFC South and NFC West should be dominating.. Year after year the Colts and Seahawks are winning their division, all they need is another team or pushing it, two teams to step in their respective division.

For the AFC South, the Colts have been a lock for many, many years, they easily could be the best division in football if the other teams just made the playoffs. Doesn't matter who, as long as they can get 2-3 teams each year, with the Colts being a lock.

In our division, there is no lock to win it. No division dynasty if you will, so the teams we push change year after year. It's almost like musical chairs, and after the 16 game, usually 1 team from our divison, sometimes 2 gets left out.

But like I said before past years def. influence my respect for other divisions. If the AFC South can consistently put 2-3 teams a year in the playoffs, my respect for them will def. go up. Until then, I call this an anomoly, and will see if they can duplicate it again.
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I guess you didn't sense the sarcasm in my post...We are not talking about the Eagles years ago when they were winning the NFC east year in and out, I thought you realized that...This is 2008, and the Colts have won the AFC south alot more then then 3 times in a row...What point are you even trying to argue? Your assessment of assuming everyone thought the NFC east would be philly, dal, ny, wash is completely wrong, nobody thought it was going to end up that way so it doesn't make sense.
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Realistically, the AFC South and NFC West should be dominating.. Year after year the Colts and Seahawks are winning their division, all they need is another team or pushing it, two teams to step in their respective division.

For the AFC South, the Colts have been a lock for many, many years, they easily could be the best division in football if the other teams just made the playoffs. Doesn't matter who, as long as they can get 2-3 teams each year, with the Colts being a lock.

In our division, there is no lock to win it. No division dynasty if you will, so the teams we push change year after year. It's almost like musical chairs, and after the 16 game, usually 1 team from our divison, sometimes 2 gets left out.

But like I said before past years def. influence my respect for other divisions. If the AFC South can consistently put 2-3 teams a year in the playoffs, my respect for them will def. go up. Until then, I call this an anomoly, and will see if they can duplicate it again.
THis is a solid post with a good argument, I'll concede that the NFC East is better than the AFC south. I dislike any argument that says 'The winner of the division is not a lock' because that just means your teams are equally skilled, not that they're tough. But pulling multiple teams to the play offs each year is a pretty solid point and I agree.
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THis is a solid post with a good argument, I'll concede that the NFC East is better than the AFC south. I dislike any argument that says 'The winner of the division is not a lock' because that just means your teams are equally skilled, not that they're tough. But pulling multiple teams to the play offs each year is a pretty solid point and I agree.
Well that's the thing it goes hand in hand. The winner of the division in our case isn't a lock, which means there is a good amount of parity with no single team dominating, and inspite of all this, we still put multiple teams in, which means our division is a very tough one. Even if a team has an off year, they very well can win the division next year. Think of the markets and owners that are in the divison.

NYG- NY market and 2 owners
Skins and Dallas big markets with two owners that love to spend money
Eagles- frugal team, but consistently draft solid players, also play in a big market.

It's pretty much bumper cars, where each team beats the piss out of the other, and still we manage to put multiple teams in. Plus after a poor season, usually the ownership in 1 or 2 years manages to turn the team around only because of the pressure in playing in these markets. We really have no bottom dwellers. We once did when Arizona was in our division, but since they left, it's pretty much a free for all in our divison, and will be again this year.

Dallas is a stacked team, but they are no means a lock to win the division.
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My favorite team is in the AFC South, so I voted for it!

Everyone else sucks! Random statistic from 3 years ago *here*! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!
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