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Old 05-31-2008, 02:21 PM    (permalink
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These are in no particular order.

Champ Bailey- the essence of a shutdown corner. He'll take a chance or two and get burnt, but he's still the best in the league at his position.

Demarcus Ware- not only is he one of the best pass rushers in the league, he can defend against the run.

Ed Reed- the best safety in the league and he can do it all.

Bob Sanders- just look at how bad the Colts d is when he's out.

Shawne Merriman- another pass rushing beast.
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Shawne Merriman
Nnamdi Asomugha
Ed Reed
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In particular order.

1. DeMarcus Ware - Just all around the best LB in the game. If the coaching staff wanted him to be a tackling machine, he would, but there's other people with less skill-set than he does that can do that dirty work. He rushes the passer like the best, and covers ground like a safety.

2. Nnamdi Asomugha - There's a reason why these guys get paid big bucks, and that's because it's one of the hardest positions to play. Aso plays it like it's no ones business, and shuts his man down. If i needed someone to cover a WR right now, for one play... he's the guy i go to.

3. Jared Allen - One of the best 4-3 DL in the game. 15 sacks in a short season with little to no defensive line help. Absolutely beastly pass rush, and great against the run too. There's little this guy can't do.

4. Bob Sanders - No one means more to his team defensively more than this guy. He's the heart and soul of the Colts' D. If you take the axle, the wheels fall off, and that's what Sanders is. Very good at covering, but even better at tackling and making plays inside the box. Hardly misses a tackle.

5. Patrick Willis - Shooting up in my rankings as the best ILB in the game. On a team with little help, he still managed to lead the league in tackles. If Balmer pans out for his line up front, he will be the next Ray Lewis/Young Brian Urlacher.
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Putting my homer googles on I say

Kevin Williams
Jared Allen
Nnamdi Asomugha
Bob Sanders
Brian Urlacher

I tried to go with one player per position and those 5 are the best at their positions IMO or at least the look like the best because of the systems they play in.
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If Pat and Kevin Williams were one person and were able to clog up the middle they would have to be up here. Probably the best Dline duo.

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Also Al Harris is not top 5, but deserves some love. He played with crap for teammates in 04 and 05 (guys like Carroll) but played excellently. He shouldve made the Pro Bowl those 2 years instead of this year.
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Also Al Harris is not top 5, but deserves some love. He played with crap for teammates in 04 and 05 (guys like Carroll) but played excellently. He shouldve made the Pro Bowl those 2 years instead of this year.
He also got beat like a whipping boy vs Plaxico and the likes of Patrick Crayton...I like Al Harris but he deserves no part of a thread titled 'top 5 defenders in the NFL'.
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If Pat and Kevin Williams were one person and were able to clog up the middle they would have to be up here. Probably the best Dline duo.

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Also Al Harris is not top 5, but deserves some love. He played with crap for teammates in 04 and 05 (guys like Carroll) but played excellently. He shouldve made the Pro Bowl those 2 years instead of this year.
get real. seriously, he doesn't deserve any love in the 'top 5 defensive players' talk. debate it in a 'top 5 CB thread' but this is just laughable here
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must say i am pretty shocked at those people who don't have a DL player on there list. It just doesn't make sense in my mind. Defenses are often built off of the DT and DE's, so to not have one just doesn't seem right to me. but if that is ur actual opinion i guess i can't argue. But u may be undervalueing their skill/talent/impact
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get real. seriously, he doesn't deserve any love in the 'top 5 defensive players' talk. debate it in a 'top 5 CB thread' but this is just laughable here
Which is why I didnt put him the top 5. Im saying that in 04-05 he couldve been close had he had a better supporting cast. Regardless, he isnt at all close to top 5

Brian Urlacher
Champ Bailey
Aso
Ed Reed
Mario will be
Merrimen is up there
Bob Sanders

Its hard to narrow it to 5
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Urlacher, Merriman, Reed, Bailey, and Sanders. Probably wouldve said the same group last offseason with Peppers in there instead of Bob Sanders. Not anymore
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Best S - Ed Reed
Best CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
Best LB - DeMarcus Ware
Best DE - Aaron Kampman
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Which is why I didnt put him the top 5. Im saying that in 04-05 he couldve been close had he had a better supporting cast. Regardless, he isnt at all close to top 5
as long as u acknowledge that. u made it seem as though he was on the bubble, and i certainly don't think he's in the top 15 to the bubble personally
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as long as u acknowledge that. u made it seem as though he was on the bubble, and i certainly don't think he's in the top 15 to the bubble personally
I was just saying Al didnt get enough love a couple years ago. Some of us Packer fans bring up Al whenever a thread like this gets made though.
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1. Nnamdi Asomugha. If you want feared, I would look to him. Throwing to him or challenging him would be a terrible mistake and an interception by him can change the course of the game very much.

2. Champ Bailey. See #1

3. Shawne Merriman. Feared pass rusher who can really make his presence felt in the passing game.

4. DeMarcus Ware. See #3.

5. Jared Allen. Hard to gameplan against a 3 down DE who does a great job rushing the passer, stopping the run, and getting his hands up to disrupt plays.

Honorable mentions (JUST missed):

Ed Reed. He does a great job taking away the deep game. You may think you have a WR open down the field, but by the time you throw and the ball gets their, its probably likely that Ed Reed is there.

Laron Landry. Same reason as Ed Reed. He has ridiculous range and has great instincts for the game. I think he still needs some work with his ball control skills, but as soon as he got that down, I think he will be just like Ed Reed in the sense that he can patrol the deep side of the field extremely well.

Brian Urlacher. Does a great job in coverage, rushing the passer, and supporting the run. Does it all very well and is very feared.
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dude is gonna be so sick in a year or two when he puts it together.
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Which is why I didnt put him the top 5. Im saying that in 04-05 he couldve been close had he had a better supporting cast. Regardless, he isnt at all close to top 5

Brian Urlacher
Champ Bailey
Aso
Ed Reed
Mario will be
Merrimen is up there
Bob Sanders

Its hard to narrow it to 5
Then why did you even mention him? Wouldn't it be cool if everyone said, "Everyone on my team shouldn't be top 5 but they deserve some love." Who gives a ****?
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clearly it's in no order:

Gary Brackett, Ron Girault, Eric Foster, Osi Umenyiora, and Justin Tuck
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Landry isn't even top 5 at his position, not sure how people can say is one of the top 5 defensive players in the league.
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Landry isn't even top 5 at his position, not sure how people can say is one of the top 5 defensive players in the league.
Name 5 that are better than Landry
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:01 AM    (permalink
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I dont agree with either Mario Williams or Tommie Harris. I think Mario isnt at that top 5 level yet, and Tommie is not the best DT in the game. That would belong to Haynesworth. Harris is probably a top 3 DT though.
I think that there are plenty of DTs that are better than harris in the game right now. Tommie Harris being one of them, and Mario is turning into a huge problem for left tackles.
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Name 5 that are better than Landry
Bob Sanders
Ed Reed
Troy Polamalu
Sean Jones
Adrian Wilson
Brian Dawkins
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