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Old 06-30-2008, 05:03 PM    (permalink
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NFC:
Brian Westbrook - 10
Adrian Peterson - 9
Steven Jackson - 1

AFC:
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Joseph Addia - 4
Willie Parker - 3
Ronnie Brown - 3

So now only vote for 1 NFC and 1 AFC because Westbrook and Tomlinson are 1st team.
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How is McNabb better? Eli has won a SB and McNabb was throwing up during his SB cuz he ate too much Campbell's soup.
That isn't a good argument. Dan Marino never won a superbowl but Trent Dilfer did. It was the giants defense that won their superbowl, just like the ravens defense won the superbowl. I'm not comparing McNabb to Dan Marino by any means but that just proves that QBs alone don't win championships. And maybe the reason McNabb was throwing up was because he was forced to constantly run around to escape pressure. I seriously find it laughable the amount of people who consider Manning better than McNabb because of the Superbowl, other than those couple games he was extremely average last season, while McNabb is a 5 time pro bowler and has way better stats, with much worse receivers (minus 1 and a half seasons with TO). Eli could be better in the future but the only thing he has proven over McNabb at this point is that he won a superbowl, which is an attribute to a whole team, not 1 player.

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NFC:
Brian Westbrook - 10
Adrian Peterson - 10

Steven Jackson - 1

AFC:
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Joseph Addia - 4
Ronnie Brown - 4
Willie Parker - 3
Fred Taylor 1

Only vote for 1 AFC now because every other spot is taken up.
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It was the giants defense that won their superbowl, just like the ravens defense won the superbowl.
David Tyree would disagree.

The defense almost let them down as good as they played.
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David Tyree would disagree.

The defense almost let them down as good as they played.
David Tyree wouldn't have had the chance to make the catch if the Giants' defense didn't turn the Patriots' OL to swiss cheese all game.
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David Tyree would disagree.

The defense almost let them down as good as they played.
You've got it backwards. When a defense takes an offense that's averaging 36.8 ppg and holds them to 14, they've done their Job. When an offense that's averaging 23.3 ppg only scores 17 points, they damn near gave up the game. Don't let one flukey play distract you from who underperformed.
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As a Philly fan, yes, it does. Not because of what happened and when it happened, but because it's only been used by about 678,912,908,999 people who hate the Eagles.

I don't know how Tom Brady got 2nd best QB after a 50 TD season.
I can see how that would get old but I hate Eagles fans. I don't hate the Eagles but their fans suck. I've only met 3 Eagles fans in my life that I've been able to get along with. The rest are a bunch of angry assholes that are mad cuz their sports franchises haven't been able to win a championship in years. At least they do know what it's like to win A championship. New Orleans hasn't been able to win any professional sports championships at all.
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David Tyree wouldn't have had the chance to make the catch if the Giants' defense didn't turn the Patriots' OL to swiss cheese all game.
The D gave up the go ahead score. If they stop them the Giants don't need Tyree to make the catch. They played great, just sayin.
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That isn't a good argument. Dan Marino never won a superbowl but Trent Dilfer did. It was the giants defense that won their superbowl, just like the ravens defense won the superbowl. I'm not comparing McNabb to Dan Marino by any means but that just proves that QBs alone don't win championships. And maybe the reason McNabb was throwing up was because he was forced to constantly run around to escape pressure. I seriously find it laughable the amount of people who consider Manning better than McNabb because of the Superbowl, other than those couple games he was extremely average last season, while McNabb is a 5 time pro bowler and has way better stats, with much worse receivers (minus 1 and a half seasons with TO). Eli could be better in the future but the only thing he has proven over McNabb at this point is that he won a superbowl, which is an attribute to a whole team, not 1 player.

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I know all of that. There was a time when I thought McNabb was one of the best QB's in the league but until he is able to play more than six games a season I will continue to rank Eli Manning ahead of him.
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The D gave up the go ahead score. If they stop them the Giants don't need Tyree to make the catch. They played great, just sayin.
The D also held the NFL's all-time most prolific offense to 14 points.
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The D gave up the go ahead score. If they stop them the Giants don't need Tyree to make the catch. They played great, just sayin.
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The D also held the NFL's all-time most prolific offense to 14 points.
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The D also held the NFL's all-time most prolific offense to 14 points.
Where am I saying they didn't play great? They did, just happened to give up the go a head score and saying the D won the game when they didn't that is sort of a false statement. The offense and Eli's cold veins won that game.
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Where am I saying they didn't play great? They did, just just happened to give up the go a head score and saying the D won the game when they did that is sort of a false statement. The offense and Eli's cold veins won that game.
No, they didn't. The only reason why the Giants were even in the game was because of their defense.

Anyways, let's get people to vote for the RBs so we can move on.
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I know all of that. There was a time when I thought McNabb was one of the best QB's in the league but until he is able to play more than six games a season I will continue to rank Eli Manning ahead of him.
Well, Good News Then. McNabb has averaged 12 games played per season since 2004. You now should rank him above manning by your own criteria.
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Well, Good News Then. McNabb has averaged 12 games played per season since 2004. You now should rank him above manning by your own criteria.
But I won't until he proves he can be healthy.
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Where am I saying they didn't play great? They did, just happened to give up the go a head score and saying the D won the game when they didn't that is sort of a false statement. The offense and Eli's cold veins won that game.
The Giants offense scored not only below their own average, but below the average given up by the Pats D. They underperformed the entire game. Manning still didn't manage to complete more than 56% of his passes, and that was against a defense that was a hair away from giving up 60% completions on the season.
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Just proving my point for me.
Honestly, I think that after Tomlinson, the rest of the AFC is a crapshoot. So I picked Ronnie Brown because he was sick at the beginning of the year and had a lot of time to recover from his ACL tear.
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Ronnie Brown

I know the ACL is an issue but he had half of the reg season and all of the off-season to recover. The addition of Jake Long should help the running game. Ronnie was the leading rusher in the AFC despite being on a winless team.
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