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Old 07-14-2008, 05:07 PM    (permalink
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Nice to see the Jets at 6. If people think Joe Thomas looked kickass last year...I think D'Brick is going to show alot of people why he went 4th in that '06 draft.

Not that they deserve it...I love the Bills O-line (really young too)...the Jags should be past the Jets too.

The Browns have the best O-line in football.
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The Browns have the best O-line in football.
That's a little extreme imo.
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That's a little extreme imo.
That group looked absolutely sick for a bunch of guys working for the first time together...I can only hope Faneca does for the Jets left side what Steinbach did to the Browns.

It might be a tad extreme but I'll stand by it. They're too talented.
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Yeah, that left side of the Jets looks filthy.

I bet they run that way more than 60% of the season haha.
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How are the Pats not 1? :/
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Hmmm...which would you guys take over the next 3 seasons:

D'Brick-Faneca-Mangold?

Thomas-Steinbach-Fraley?

Peters-Dockery-Fowler?

I guess this'll be more fun after people actually see the Jets new left side...
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Hmmm...which would you guys take over the next 3 seasons:

D'Brick-Faneca-Mangold?

Thomas-Steinbach-Fraley?

Peters-Dockery-Fowler?

I guess this'll be more fun after people actually see the Jets new left side...
If D'Brick manages to pass protect he'll be a lot better.
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If D'Brick manages to pass protect he'll be a lot better.
D'Brick's biggest problem is his weight problem. Thats a metabolism thing and like anyone else his should slow down in time.

D'Brick's pass protection problems are exaggerated by that completely BS stat I constantly see. So many of those sacks attributed to D'Brick on that play are due to stunts meant to attack our LG's. D'Brick has played with mediocre at best G's next to him, and I just can't buy that he gave up the 10-13 (depends on the source) sacks those stats say he did. I can think of at least two in one game (Titans) where the Titans ran stunts with KVB where he blew past and through Clarke like nothing.

He looks bigger than ever this year...yea I'm a little excited to see our O-line this year....
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D'Brick's biggest problem is his weight problem. Thats a metabolism thing and like anyone else his should slow down in time.

D'Brick's pass protection problems are exaggerated by that completely BS stat I constantly see. So many of those sacks attributed to D'Brick on that play are due to stunts meant to attack our LG's. D'Brick has played with mediocre at best G's next to him, and I just can't buy that he gave up the 10-13 (depends on the source) sacks those stats say he did. I can think of at least two in one game (Titans) where the Titans ran stunts with KVB where he blew past and through Clarke like nothing.

He looks bigger than ever this year...yea I'm a little excited to see our O-line this year....
so because yur LG sucked, D'Brick couldnt pass block?



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Hmmm...which would you guys take over the next 3 seasons:

D'Brick-Faneca-Mangold?

Thomas-Steinbach-Fraley?

Peters-Dockery-Fowler?

I guess this'll be more fun after people actually see the Jets new left side...
Give me Cleveland, Buffalo, then NY.
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Agreed. Thomas and Steinbach are both top 3 at their position imo.
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I believe that 1-4 is pretty tough to rank. You could put these in any different order and I'd have no issues with it. There's not much separation from 1-4.

Also, the Steelers shouldn't be this high.
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and Fowler will be gone after this season anyways
Yea...yea I'd say that'd throw the play of a LT off.

Besides that...he absolutely owned Jason Taylor this year...then shut out Osi, Cole, Geathers, and Schobel...and he played well against KVB and Wimbley.
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I love homers...Not that Peters isn't good, but I just love how people throw out comments like these about their players as if they have watched even half the games of other elite LT's around the league.


How often have you watched games of Walter Jones? You also can't just dismiss Pace because he was hurt last year, Peters I wouldn't put before any of those guys yet, and he's certainly not clearly better as you make it seem.
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Considering hes just as bad as Sims was without Cable I disagree.
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Considering hes just as bad as Sims was without Cable I disagree.
He's worse than Sims. Hell he got benched last year for a raw rookie.
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They did lose their last game...

Derek Anderson threw 4 picks against the Bengals to clinch a playoff spot and pretty much blew it during the whole second half of the season.
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He's worse than Sims. Hell he got benched last year for a raw rookie.
Statistically both him and Sims are even. The only reason Sims wasnt benched was because there was nobody behind him worth starting.
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Titans have a top three unit IMO, Roos and stewart are to of top young tackles, both just got new contracts, while scoot is an improvement over olson, and eugene amano is just as good as bell was, and mawae is still playing at a top level. IMo overall the o-line is the strongest part of this team this year.
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Statistically both him and Sims are even. The only reason Sims wasnt benched was because there was nobody behind him worth starting.
Kwame Harris has been at right tackle usually facing inferior pass rushers. Statistically comparing a right tackle and a left tackle is pointless.
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Kwame Harris has been at right tackle usually facing inferior pass rushers. Statistically comparing a right tackle and a left tackle is pointless.
Well by just watching each player play you can at least make some differences. Not stat wise of course. I remember when Kwame Harris was blocking for us in 2006, defenses relentlessly blitzed from that side. He of course struggled, but he was getting more than his fair share.
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