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Old 08-01-2008, 02:27 PM    (permalink
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I think this year CJ really begins to assert himself; we all know he's basically Jesus playing WR when it comes to the body composition, skills, and work ethic. Now it's just a matter of putting it all on the field/avoiding a freak injury.

I'm excited to see him play, and there's been a dearth of new topics. What's everyone else think?

Side note; if Jamarcus Russell falls flat this year and CJ lights it up, what do the Raiders think? I can't fault Al for going with the QB, even though CJ was without question the most talented player on the board. It would still be a tough pill to swallow.
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He is the best WR prospect ever. He's going to blow up sooner or later.
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He had a solid year last year for a first year WR. Like everyone else, I expect big thigns from him. If not this year, very shortly.
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There aren't many 'sure-things' in the NFL draft, but he was/is considered one of those 'can't miss' guys.......you would figure that given everything he has, and injury free, he will bust out. Why not this year? QB play? Poor Oline? Lack of running game?

basically, the only things on his side are his incredible talent, and the fact that he has a top notch WR playing opposite him to keep extra coverage on him.....
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He is the best WR prospect ever. He's going to blow up sooner or later.
I wouldn't be so sure Sports Illustrated called tony mandarich the best LT prospect ever and look how that turned out.
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There aren't many 'sure-things' in the NFL draft, but he was/is considered one of those 'can't miss' guys.......you would figure that given everything he has, and injury free, he will bust out. Why not this year? QB play? Poor Oline? Lack of running game?

basically, the only things on his side are his incredible talent, and the fact that he has a top notch WR playing opposite him to keep extra coverage on him.....
he will bust out cause he is a Lion
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I think Calvin will get 900+ yards this year, probably over 1000. Next year is gonna be his big coming out party I think, year three usually is for WRs.
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Reports from training camp say he's a man among boys. We all knew that already, though.

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Side note; if Jamarcus Russell falls flat this year and CJ lights it up, what do the Raiders think? I can't fault Al for going with the QB, even though CJ was without question the most talented player on the board. It would still be a tough pill to swallow.
I wouldn't expect Russell to fall flat this year though I'm sure ready for a whole lot of inconsistency throughout the entire season. CJ's gonna be soo beastly ...
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D Bowe >>>>>>>>>>>> Cj.

Joking.

Cj has godly physical attributes.

I hope the best for him, yet I think Bowe will have a better year again this year. Bowe has been killing it in camp.
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He played fairly well for a rookie who was battling injuries and playing on pain killers all year.

I think he'll have a better year now that the offense is supposed to be more balanced. That team just wasn't talented/not a good enough fit to run Martz offense.

With Kevin Smith and Tatum bell getting 30 carries a game between them and a more standard offense with Roy and Calvin being focal points on the outside I think he'll be targeted more and should have a good second year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 1000+ yards and 6-8 Td's
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I think Calvin will get 900+ yards this year, probably over 1000. Next year is gonna be his big coming out party I think, year three usually is for WRs.
This is generally true that is when I'm expecting him to really break out and be franchise WR
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I wouldn't be so sure Sports Illustrated called tony mandarich the best LT prospect ever and look how that turned out.
This has nothing to do with him. And being the best prospect ever at a position doesn't guarantee success. Even IF Mandarich was the best prospect ever, his status as a pro doesn't effect how he was looked at as a prospect.

And try telling me that a 6-5, 235 lb WR who runs a 4.35 and produced the way he did with ******* Reggie Ball as your QB is not the best prospect ever. Name a better prospect, please.
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Moss wasn't a better prospect as long as we're discussing the whole package, but Moss is easily the best wide receiver I've ever seen play, so I can't say Johnson is better.

I supported the Russell pick back in 2007, and I still support it today. That said, I'm not sure I've ever liked a prospect as much as I liked Johnson, and I still held out hope until the last moment that Al Davis would go for the kid. Assuming Detroit can erect some sort of offense, he is going to be fun to watch.

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It's not going out on a limb saying he will break out or expecting him too...He has all the measurables, and I wouldn't be surprised when he shows up with a 1300/15 TD season whether it be this year or next...If it never happens he will be viewed as a bust, but judging from last year and his 700/4 campaign he looks like he should make that turn soon the same way Braylon did.
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I said before the draft that Bowe would have a better career than Johnson. I can only hope I'm wrong...
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Not yet it's not. It will be soon enough, but what's guaranteed in the NFL?
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One year into their careers, it doesn't look so foolish. People can make all the excuses they want for Calvin, but Dwayne Bowe was far better than him in their rookie year. Trust me, as a Lions fan I would like nothing more than for Calvin to prove me wrong.
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One year into their careers, it doesn't look so foolish. People can make all the excuses they want for Calvin, but Dwayne Bowe was far better than him in their rookie year. Trust me, as a Lions fan I would like nothing more than for Calvin to prove me wrong.
You couldn't be more right. Still, Calvin is a tiny God. As much as it pains me to admit, between him and Laron, there were moments that I longed for the Chargers dark days of drafting ridiculously high. Then again, I don't have much room to complain. Cromartie with the 19th pick astounds me in retrospect, even coming off an injury without much experience.
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One year into their careers, it doesn't look so foolish. People can make all the excuses they want for Calvin, but Dwayne Bowe was far better than him in their rookie year. Trust me, as a Lions fan I would like nothing more than for Calvin to prove me wrong.
Bowe had the upside of being the only explosive option on that offense, while Calvin Johnson was battling back pain all year. Not to say that Bowe wasn't easily the best rookie wideout, but even with the injury Johnson made some plays that I don't think Bowe will ever make.
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Sophomore slump for Bowe. You heard it hear first. haha.

In all seriousness, with LJ back he should be able to improve. I imagine LJ is going to have a crappy season though.
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