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Old 08-07-2008, 04:37 PM    (permalink
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Compairing himself to Tony Gonzalez, Jason Whitten and other top tight ends, Davis won't back off. "They're OK," Davis said."I believe I'm up there too maybe even better.I'm saying I'm going to have a great season.An awesome one."
Vernon MIGHT want to do something on the field before mentiong his name in the same breath as Gonzalez, Gates, Whitten and even Winslow
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Hopefully he bottoms out, then what we can hear what his excuses are. I'm sure he'd pull a TO or something.
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Hey, he's my starting TE in FF. I believe you Vernon ! Make me proud . :D
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Nothing wrong with a little confidence, but this is too much
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He better be smart enough to learn Mike Martz's system. I know his system, and just by reading his playbook, it's a pain in the butt to remember. Thank god I am not a pro WR/TE.
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HAHAHA... Martz doesn't even put a TE on the field except on rare occassion. This is going to be interesting.
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Good ol Vern.. He's just so stupid and overconfident that he brings joy to my heart. It's a shame they cut all of his "ya'knows" from written pieces cause that would make him even better to read about.
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HAHAHA... Martz doesn't even put a TE on the field except on rare occassion. This is going to be interesting.
Davis will line up in the slot on many occasions ..
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HAHAHA... Martz doesn't even put a TE on the field except on rare occassion. This is going to be interesting.
It's because Martz didn't have the TE potential that he has in Davis. Martz runs alot of mesh concept, and crossing concepts, and so in theory Davis should really bloosom in this system. It should also help Smith too, because he can hit Davis running the shallow or the Dig above him.

Only issue is Davis is smart enough to memorize all the different alignments and numbered routes. Not to mention, if they ask him to play inside WR, he has to know those numbers as well. Factor in run blocking assignments, and that's a boat load of info to process.
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This guy is hilarious.

He was a pretty freak TE prospect out of college too. Hope he does something this year.
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It's because Martz didn't have the TE potential that he has in Davis. Martz runs alot of mesh concept, and crossing concepts, and so in theory Davis should really bloosom in this system. It should also help Smith too, because he can hit Davis running the shallow or the Dig above him.

Only issue is Davis is smart enough to memorize all the different alignments and numbered routes. Not to mention, if they ask him to play inside WR, he has to know those numbers as well. Factor in run blocking assignments, and that's a boat load of info to process.
Martz never even tried to look for one. I wonder why...
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Az Hakir, Dante Hall, Shaun McDonald... Vernon Davis... Like I said... This is gonna be interesting.

One thing Davis has going for him. SF's WRs suck badly.
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Martz never even tried to look for one. I wonder why...
Maybe because he had some good WRs there with the Rams. He could very well accomplish the same concepts like Mesh, NCAA, and Drive, but going 3-4 wide instead of using a TE. Now he can use that TE and have him be a mismatch for the Lbs. Worse comes to worse, he is a window dressing route, which will hold the Lbs, for another route being run somewhere else.
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With SF's current QB situation I wouldnt count on him getting alot of balls thrown his way.
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Vernon the same dude who was all happy when Green Bay took AJ Hawk over him because he didnt want to play for us. Well Vern you got it backwards... The entire GB organization is happy they didnt select you because you suck and keep flapping your jaw. Did you ever think to just not say you didnt want to play for GB seeing as they didnt draft you.... and after they didnt is when you brought it up.
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HAHAHA... Martz doesn't even put a TE on the field except on rare occassion. This is going to be interesting.
Funny bc all we have seen since Martz has arrived is two TE sets, this seems to be our base offense. He has installed less of the 3 wr sets than anything else.

I think like most good coaches, Martz tailors his offense to his players strengths. Thus the heavy emphasis on Frank Gore this year.
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Why does it always seem like KW2 is the throw-in elite TE?

I *really* think more people need to see just how sick this guy is. It might erase that "can't block" thing too...he's not dominant but he's better than Gates is as a blocker IMO.

Oh and agreed with anyone who says Davis should shut up and play.
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He said this before his rookie year too. "Those guys are OK." Oh man.
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Funny bc all we have seen since Martz has arrived is two TE sets, this seems to be our base offense. He has installed less of the 3 wr sets than anything else.

I think like most good coaches, Martz tailors his offense to his players strengths. Thus the heavy emphasis on Frank Gore this year.
You can still run the same concepts with a 2 TE set. And it also helps in running the ball, helping the offensive line out too. Also, from there you can run alot of playaction, and bootlegs too. Just because he has different formations doesn't mean you can't run the same stuff that you used to. I am sure he is going to run the same exact concepts just via different formations, and different personnel. He really is a good OC, just not a good HC, in my opinion, and tends to get carried away passing the ball.
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Vernon Davis's career stats.

72 rec 774 yards TD's 7

Tony Gonzalez's stats just from last year.

99 rec 1,172 yards 5 TD's.
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Az Hakir, Dante Hall, Shaun McDonald... Vernon Davis... Like I said... This is gonna be interesting.

One thing Davis has going for him. SF's WRs suck badly.

Davis will be used, I'd be willing to bet. Here's what was put in the latest ESPN Mag...

"Shortly after he was hired, new Niners OC Mike Martz called Vernon Davis to let him know he plans to target the third-year tight end as much as possible. Needless to say, Davis is smitten. "Three words," he says of Martz. "My best friend."


And that's good to hear. I'm a big Vernon fan.
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I just which his awesome talent wasn't wasting away on such a bad team, in the interest of highlight reel plays I think he should be traded to Carolina for a can of beans.
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Another thing VD needs to realize...

He'll have a pathetic QB no matter who lines up behind center.
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To be fair Shaun Hill is atleast half decent. 'Small hands' on the other hand ...
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