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Old 08-26-2008, 10:35 PM    (permalink
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I'm a little curious as to when the Colts will draft Manning's successor.

He'll be 33 next year, pretty healthy guy. Another 2 / 3 seasons or so before they pick someone (including 08)?
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I'd love to get Alex Smith from San Fran. He's not a lost cause imo.
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I'm curious to see where TJ ends up. If he finds the right situation and they know how to use him he'll be fine I think.

I'm hoping Simpson/Henry will be enough. Henry, when not an idiot is very solid for us. Simpson seems to be learning but he's got a long way to go.
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I'd love to get Alex Smith from San Fran. He's not a lost cause imo.
I think so too. I hate him, but mostly I look inward at management and wonder if Mike Nolan has screwed his head up.

The right coach/management can probably fix it. Indy would be great for him.
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2-3 years with under the best in the business with a great supporting cast and coaching staff is perfect for him.
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If he's cut or released, which I doubt will happen, he'd come cheap. He might come cheap anyway since he lost his starting job to someone who never was more than a 3rd stringer for most teams.

I could definitely see Indianapolis making a play for him. He'd still be young in 2-3 years (26-27) and by learning that time under Manning, Dungy, and Jim Caldwell would do wonders to increase his confidence.
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Except, Detroit will franchise Roy Williams. He isn't goinmg anywhere and I doubt Hous is either. I think teams will be disappointed with either of Cincy's WR's unless they have another Palmer to throw to them. Franchise QB's have a way of making WR's look a lot better than they are.
Re: Williams, that's definitely true. The Lions absolutely could franchise Roy Williams, to either trade him or hang onto him for at least one more year, and the latter would definitely help Drew Stanton if he's the starter. In fact, the Lions could very well sign Williams long-term, that I can recall they really don't have anyone else on the team to extend for the current time - Ernie Sims should be signed through 2010 if not 2011. The big hold-up is spending that much money on receivers in and of itself, but in terms of making the roster better, they could probably do much worse in free agency versus re-signing Roy Williams.

Of course if Millen does finally get the boot like I think, the new management coming in will be a critical factor, depending on how they want to build the roster from that point and the thought process they have in doing that.

As for Housh, I just don't think Cincy will match what another team will offer once TJ hits the open market. The draft picks at receiver were pretty much the writing on the wall that they are moving ahead with younger talent, and even though I been saying tor two years now that I think TJ is the better receiver of the Bengals' duo, I would definitely let him walk and gladly build behind Chad Johnson as my #1 guy.
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I think it depends who comes on the market and how their QB situation goes. If stanton is a goer then they might let him walk and let it be the CJ show. If they've still got a lame duck QB they'll need the elite receiver pair to do damage.
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Re: Williams, that's definitely true. The Lions absolutely could franchise Roy Williams, to either trade him or hang onto him for at least one more year, and the latter would definitely help Drew Stanton if he's the starter. In fact, the Lions could very well sign Williams long-term, that I can recall they really don't have anyone else on the team to extend for the current time - Ernie Sims should be signed through 2010 if not 2011. The big hold-up is spending that much money on receivers in and of itself, but in terms of making the roster better, they could probably do much worse in free agency versus re-signing Roy Williams.

Of course if Millen does finally get the boot like I think, the new management coming in will be a critical factor, depending on how they want to build the roster from that point and the thought process they have in doing that.
there were some reports last year after the whole "I want out"-ordeal that Williams wanted to remain in Detroit.

Also, I can't imagine any GM (Millen or new, probably the competence level won't be much higher considering it's the Fords calling the shots) not wanting a receiver of Roy's caliber.
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I'm a little curious as to when the Colts will draft Manning's successor.

He'll be 33 next year, pretty healthy guy. Another 2 / 3 seasons or so before they pick someone (including 08)?
I understand that Peyton had the same surgery that Harrison had last year and Harrison said it really bothered him for the whole season, so we'll have to see how Manning heals. Will he be his old self or a much slower version of the old Peyton. I really hope he is OK because he's fun to watch.
Even Tom Brady may have a tough year. Can they give him time to heal properly or will they risk his career by rushing him back into play. It will be a boring season if both of these guys are sidelined or rather ineffective. San Diego has lost Merriman so I'm not expecting a whole lot from them either and the Giants have lost Osi. We could possibly see a complete turnover in the top teams and it could be a wide open race with this many stars hurting.
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I understand that Peyton had the same surgery that Harrison had last year and Harrison said it really bothered him for the whole season, so we'll have to see how Manning heals. Will he be his old self or a much slower version of the old Peyton. I really hope he is OK because he's fun to watch.
Even Tom Brady may have a tough year. Can they give him time to heal properly or will they risk his career by rushing him back into play. It will be a boring season if both of these guys are sidelined or rather ineffective. San Diego has lost Merriman so I'm not expecting a whole lot from them either and the Giants have lost Osi. We could possibly see a complete turnover in the top teams and it could be a wide open race with this many stars hurting.
Not to mention the injuries to Hardwick, Gates, Rivers and LT. And the suspended Cooper.

In all reality though, I expect the Chargers to be back to nearly full strength (minus Merriman of course) be Week 3 or so. I can't see them getting any less than 10 wins, likely a couple more on top of that.
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Not to mention the injuries to Hardwick, Gates, Rivers and LT. And the suspended Cooper.

In all reality though, I expect the Chargers to be back to nearly full strength (minus Merriman of course) be Week 3 or so. I can't see them getting any less than 10 wins, likely a couple more on top of that.
I think your underestimating the loss of Merriman, probably the top pass rusher in the league bar none. I'm also not sold on Turner as a solid HC and with Merriman injured it is going to be on his shoulders to keep the ship afloat.
I think 10 wins is the absolute best you can expect and even that is suspect IMO.
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there were some reports last year after the whole "I want out"-ordeal that Williams wanted to remain in Detroit.

Also, I can't imagine any GM (Millen or new, probably the competence level won't be much higher considering it's the Fords calling the shots) not wanting a receiver of Roy's caliber.
We are in complete agreement. I'm not even sure that Ford won't keep Millen another 2 or 3 years even if we fail to win 6 games. Ford is that incompetent and I agree that Ford's new hire probably will be another inept GM.
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I don't remember a season where I've watched a game without the commentators mentioning at least one of the linemen being out for either team, its pretty common.
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Maybe even Detroit comes into play, because Matt Millen will finally be fired after this season. Oh yes Lions fans, it will finally happen.
Well, the Lions didn't wait until after the season. :D
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