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Old 09-03-2008, 06:05 PM    (permalink
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Where did the DeSean Jackson hate go?
Oh, how so funny it truly is to see opinions change oh so quickly. I'll cut him some slack though because he sure wasn't the only one ..
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Jeremy Zuttah>>>>>>>Sedrick Ellis
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Barry Richardson is about to take over RT. He is back to his junior.sophmore year form when he actually gave a crap.
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236th overall pick Jamey Richard of the University at Buffalo will be the starting center for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Zuttah's looking reaaaallyyyyy good Scotty.
damn right he is. He's so awesome. Wouldn't expect anything less. I know he won't replace Joseph, but the rest of the OL better watch out! They're jobs are in trouble(well except maybe Sears...)
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:22 PM    (permalink
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damn right he is. He's so awesome. Wouldn't expect anything less. I know he won't replace Joseph, but the rest of the OL better watch out! They're jobs are in trouble(well except maybe Sears...)
He is the #1 backup at every position on the line (when everyone is healthy).
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He is the #1 backup at every position on the line (when everyone is healthy).
he should start. There's gotta be some weak point on that line. He should probably start over Faine...
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Isn't Carey moving to RT? I don't think it's a tough decision on Parcells to have Long win that position battle if the guy he's replacing can be an improvement somewhere else. In fact, it almost feels like Carey won the RT spot, and Long was just given the LT spot - considering how much it would cost to bench your #1 overall pick and get zero production out of him.
The difference between Jake Long is that has be actually been on the field and looked good. If Jake struggled, Miami could easily move Carey to LT and try Long at RT (where most experts thought he'd be best) or even inside to Guard. Miami has some talent at OL and could have moved a struggling rookie around, not insert him right into the LT spot. But Long has looked good and held his own so there's no reason to move him from LT, that way we can keep Carey at RT where he could be a Pro Bowler.

Branden Albert on the other hand, hasn't even been on the field. He's been hurt almost all TC and still will take over at LT not because he has been there and played well and deserved to hold that spot, but instead he has it basically because if he didn't they would be stuck with McIntosh at LT. For those who forget, McIntosh was let go by the 1-15 Dolphins in favor of LJ freakin Shelton. KC has no choice but to play Albert there even if he sucks, Miami has the choice to move Long if he struggled because they have another good young option for LT in Vernon Carey.
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Haha, lawlz. Ellis will make Faine cry at night.
That may be so, but watch out for Zuttah. I've been informed from my entirely non-biased source (scotty) that he is good for about 500 pancakes on the season.
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He is the #1 backup at every position on the line (when everyone is healthy).
Well that isn't entirely true. I doubt he would start at C over Sean Mahan or at LT over Anthony Davis.
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Well that isn't entirely true. I doubt he would start at C over Sean Mahan or at LT over Anthony Davis.
According to BuccaneerBonzai, he would if Penn went down and the rest of the line was good.
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According to BuccaneerBonzai, he would if Penn went down and the rest of the line was good.
BuccaneerBonzai is a poster on the Buccaneers message board right? Great source.

The reason I say he won't start at LT or C is pretty simple. Anthony Davis and Sean Mahan have plenty of starting experience in Tampa Bays offense. If Zuttah plays lights out at RG, I could see him possibly starting at LT if Penn went down, but I still think him starting at C would be a huge stretch over Mahan.
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BuccaneerBonzai is a poster on the Buccaneers message board right? Great source.
Bad as it may sound, BB has sources.
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I still wouldn't trust another poster when it defies simple logic.
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I still wouldn't trust another poster when it defies simple logic.
Guess we'll have to wait for Penn to tear an ACL.
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Zuttah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Penn

Zuttah never played center for us, so while he could easily block, I've never seen him snap.
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Good, I get to see Ellis get owned on every play in person. Yay.

Ellis is starting at Nose Tackle, Tracy Porter at Right Cornerback.
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Um...Vernon Carey.
Um they moved him to right tackle so long could play left I still do not know how you justified your argument they both were handed the job when they drafted Jake Long Vernon Carey was struggling at LT and everyone thinks he is a better fit at RT anyway. I do not see how that makes him any different than Albert
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The draft world got very down on Sam Baker because of his atrocious game against Oregon State a few years back when he was completely B****ed by the Oregon State DE all game long, not to mention he couldn't open a hole to save his life on the ground either. Obviously it was the worst game of his career, but he stood out so badly in a USC lost, which they rarely do, that everyone remembered it just like everyone will remember Winston Justice against New York last year.
That was the UCLA game was'nt it?
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Um they moved him to right tackle so long could play left I still do not know how you justified your argument they both were handed the job when they drafted Jake Long Vernon Carey was struggling at LT and everyone thinks he is a better fit at RT anyway. I do not see how that makes him any different than Albert
Since when did Vernon Carey struggle at LT? I just realized, there's no reason to argue with you, you don't know what you are talking about. Go ask any expert, Carey more then held his own as our starting LT. Just because he is a better fit at RT does not mean Sparano couldn't have easily shifted him back to LT if Long struggled.

Part of the appeal of taking Long as that we could move Carey to to RT were he can be a Pro Bowler. We take care of two spots with 1 pick. We didn't take Long to replace Carey the way KC took Albert to replace the no names they had at that spot. We took Long to move Carey over and improve the whole line.

Anyways, this discussion ended when you said Carey struggled at LT. You don't know what your talking about. If you don't watch Carey play then at least read the write ups about him before you post. He played very well last year.
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Since when did Vernon Carey struggle at LT? I just realized, there's no reason to argue with you, you don't know what you are talking about. Go ask any expert, Carey more then held his own as our starting LT. Just because he is a better fit at RT does not mean Sparano couldn't have easily shifted him back to LT if Long struggled.

Part of the appeal of taking Long as that we could move Carey to to RT were he can be a Pro Bowler. We take care of two spots with 1 pick. We didn't take Long to replace Carey the way KC took Albert to replace the no names they had at that spot. We took Long to move Carey over and improve the whole line.

Anyways, this discussion ended when you said Carey struggled at LT. You don't know what your talking about. If you don't watch Carey play then at least read the write ups about him before you post. He played very well last year.
Then why did'nt they move Long to RT if Carey played so well it is said that Long is a pro bowl RT right off the bat but could stuggle with speed on the left
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I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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