The worst QB class in years

illmatic74 · 09-02-2008, 01:36 PM

The senior QB class is incredibly weak. I don't think there is a first rounder in the bunch. Stafford, Tebow and maybe Freeman will be to this draft what Rodgers and Smith were to 05. Unless one of these prospects has a Jason Cambell like senio season don't expect any of these senior QBs in the First round.
Painter- Interception prone
Cantwell- First year as starter
Boeckman and Harper- There game logs show that most of their great passing stats occur against weaker teams.
Carpenter, Hoyer- Inconsistent
Bomar, Brown- Div 1A
Should be worse than the 05 bunch Frye, Walter, Orton, etc

bored of education · 09-02-2008, 01:38 PM

Stafford not a 1st rounder? Is this season already over?

Turtlepower · 09-02-2008, 01:40 PM

Better QB class than last year.

Also, I never understood where Carpenter is labeled as inconsistent. He has been pretty damn consistent except for a small sophomore slump, which really wasn't that much of a drop in production.

BBIB · 09-02-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by illmatic74

The senior QB class is incredibly weak. I don't think there is a first rounder in the bunch. Stafford, Tebow and maybe Freeman will be to this draft what Rodgers and Smith were to 05. Unless one of these prospects has a Jason Cambell like senio season don't expect any of these senior QBs in the First round.
Painter- Interception prone
Cantwell- First year as starter
Boeckman and Harper- There game logs show that most of their great passing stats occur against weaker teams.
Carpenter, Hoyer- Inconsistent
Bomar, Brown- Div 1A
Should be worse than the 05 bunch Frye, Walter, Orton, etc

We don't even know which QBs will and will not emerge. We don't know who's staying and who's going pro and you're making this thread?

You must not follow football.

Colt McCoy was a top 5 pick after one season, not so great the next. There are also opposite things that occur. There are guys who rise that you do not expect.

You can't even gauge a QB class until 3+ years after they are drafted and you are trying to do so before we have any idea who's going to be even in the draft.

duckseason · 09-02-2008, 01:43 PM

This senior QB class hasn't even been established yet. A full season is an eternity in college football. Much will change between now and January. For all we know, 3 of the first 5 picks will be QB's and 2 of them will be HOF. Way too early.

illmatic74 · 09-02-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bored of education

Stafford not a 1st rounder? Is this season already over?

I said Stafford was a potential first rounder.

619 · 09-02-2008, 01:57 PM

I agree that this class without question is missing the stud QB and as a result guys like Stafford, Tebow, Cantwell will be overvalued. Just wait until next year though when Sanchez is in the mix . ;)

Bruce Banner · 09-02-2008, 02:01 PM

Boeckman is trash.

Watching him every Saturday is hell.

d34ng3l021 · 09-02-2008, 02:26 PM

I dont agree with this at all. I think Harper, Cantwell, and Painter could all be solid guys. The guy who will stand above them all is Matthew Stafford though. I see a breakout season for him, and even if he doesnt have one, he has the tools to make a name for himself during the draft process (big arm. mobility. tough conference). If he has that breakout season and lights up the combine, everyone is going to be on his nuts.

P-L · 09-02-2008, 02:38 PM

I think it's really hard to be as bad as that 2005 class has been. Not counting Aaron Rodgers, who is still a large unknown, then Jason Campbell is the best quarterback in the class and he hasn't been much more than average so far. This 2009 class looks bad right now, but there are some really good underclassmen who could turn it around should they declare.

duckseason · 09-02-2008, 02:42 PM

One guy to keep an eye on is Tom Brandstater from Fresno State. He's got the size and arm to play in the NFL. If he continues the pace of development he's been on since arriving at Fresno, he could be a legit 1st rounder.

Another guy who is flying under the radar right now but will rise as the season progresses is Willie Tuitama. His stats will be inflated, but he has the tools to develop into a legit NFL QB. With what he's about to do this year in that Arizona offense, there will be a bit of hype building around him as the year progresses.

Not particularly big on either of those guys yet, but I could see both of them climbing pretty high on boards.

Oh, and I think Mark Sanchez will be a top 10 pick if he comes out.

bigbluedefense · 09-02-2008, 02:43 PM

I like Sam Bradford a lot. I think he's going to be a very good qb in the NFL.

JT Jag · 09-02-2008, 02:47 PM

Tebow's not going to come out.

bearsfan_51 · 09-02-2008, 02:49 PM

I made a thread similar to this which was closed because some people are five years old. I think Painter and Brandstater are the guys with the most potential personally. Painter may take a hit due system-bias.

Crickett · 09-02-2008, 02:56 PM

So how long 'til we see "Sam Bradford a bust?" threads? Two months?

Scotty D · 09-02-2008, 02:59 PM

I like Central Michigan's Dan Lefevour.

BBIB · 09-02-2008, 03:02 PM

Even when guys emerge to the top of the class it's way too early to call people booms/busts before they play a down.

Look at the hype around Bush,Young, and Leinart. Now look at them.

SMoore · 09-02-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duckseason

One guy to keep an eye on is Tom Brandstater from Fresno State. He's got the size and arm to play in the NFL. If he continues the pace of development he's been on since arriving at Fresno, he could be a legit 1st rounder.

Another guy who is flying under the radar right now but will rise as the season progresses is Willie Tuitama. His stats will be inflated, but he has the tools to develop into a legit NFL QB. With what he's about to do this year in that Arizona offense, there will be a bit of hype building around him as the year progresses.

Not particularly big on either of those guys yet, but I could see both of them climbing pretty high on boards.

Oh, and I think Mark Sanchez will be a top 10 pick if he comes out.

I really like Tuitama, but I think the biggest thing with him is staying healthy another year. I know he's a year past those concussions but they still worry me.

Ozzy · 09-02-2008, 09:01 PM

This is pretty bad but just look at last years class, it was so deep and so talented with guys like Ryan, Booty, Brohm, Henne, Flacco, Woodson, Ainge, Dixon and Brennan. Heck if a guy like Woodson gets cut, then most of these guys just will not hack it.

All of this Painter talk I hate, the guy is not that good, not that athletic and really is a questionable leader on the field. I would be really surprised if he is a star in the NFL. I do not see that, at least at this point.

Ozzy · 09-02-2008, 09:05 PM

What about guys like Daniel, Carpenter and Parker Wilson? Those are all very solid QB's and Daniel is a SR as far as I know right?

Sleepers are Pinkney, Brian Johnson who just beat Michigan and as people said before Tuitama.

But yeah it is not a great class, but they have some decent players in it.

And we all know Freeman, Tebow, Stafford, Williams, Lewis and Sanchez...one if not two of those guys will come out as JR's I am sure.

kwilk103 · 09-02-2008, 09:29 PM

isnt daniel like 5'10 though

Ozzy · 09-02-2008, 10:02 PM

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Isnt daniel like 5'10 though

Yes that is true, still the guy has talent and puts the ball where it needs to be. Sure he might not be a 1st round guy but I think he has more star potential than most in this years class. Chase Daniel is more than just average I feel, and throws such an accurate pass and is such a calm leader on the field.

princefielder28 · 09-02-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D

I like Central Michigan's Dan Lefevour.

join the club ;)

Sniper · 09-02-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

Brian Johnson who just beat Michigan

You make it sound like that's impressive this year.

SuperKevin · 09-02-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duckseason

One guy to keep an eye on is Tom Brandstater from Fresno State. He's got the size and arm to play in the NFL. If he continues the pace of development he's been on since arriving at Fresno, he could be a legit 1st rounder.

Another guy who is flying under the radar right now but will rise as the season progresses is Willie Tuitama. His stats will be inflated, but he has the tools to develop into a legit NFL QB. With what he's about to do this year in that Arizona offense, there will be a bit of hype building around him as the year progresses.

Not particularly big on either of those guys yet, but I could see both of them climbing pretty high on boards.

Oh, and I think Mark Sanchez will be a top 10 pick if he comes out.

I'm high on Brandstater. The Rutgers game was a poor viewing of his talent. He had no time to throw and his WRs dropped a lot of catchable balls. He did show great touch on the deep ball though