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Old 02-27-2009, 09:53 AM    (permalink
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I understand that we are a young team and we can continue building through the draft in hopes of building a constant contender and possible dynasty, but I think we should be a bit more active in FA. Foxworth did a good job for us, and I am surprised we aren't retaining him. Even some of the other mid level guys (Gibril Wilson) would have been good for us. We have so many holes on defense its not even funny.

WLB, SLB, NT, pass rushing DE, CB, SS, FS.

Basically everyone.
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I wouldn't say that FS is a hole, but otherwise I agree.

Would be nice to see us make some moves, but we are still only in the first 12 hours. I'm glad we're not going crazy with the cash.

Holding out hope for a SS, LB, and one other position. That would leave us in a decent position to address the rest in the draft.

P.s., i do think that Nicholas is going to end up as a starter next year.
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on nfl.com i also said that we are showing interest in antonio smith. i guess it is to bring him in on running downs in a rotation with abraham. if the talk about spicer is also true looks like we will sign a de in free agency. neither guy is great, but do you think it will end the possibility of us drafting someone like english in round one? also with foxworth gone do you think cb will be looked at with pick 24, maybe someone like alphonso or sean smith, or do you think it will be adressed in the later rounds and we will give chevis an opportunity to start?
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Looks like we may be planning to address CB in FA.

We're reportedly interested in Greer (along with about 10 other teams!).

Would be happy with Greer, should fit the system well. However, with that much competition, could be expensive.

Also would be happy with McFadden (though reportedly wants 17 mill guaranteed, not far short of what Hall got); Bodden; C-Mac; Chris Johnson.
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Eric Green could even be interesting, at a cheap price.
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i would also be happy with greer or mcfadden. doubt we go after mcfadden because of the money.

not too sure about the other guys, would rather see chevis and/or draft someone to start.
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DAMN! Now we have to deal with Winslow twice a year.

Who are we going to sign/draft to deal with that, because I know that none of our current LB or S would have a chance.

Funnily enough, Boley's the only guy who has the athleticism and cover abilities to do it. Tedious.
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Thank goodness Haynesworth is off the market. I guess the Redskins will be offseason champs for the 6th year in a row and less knowledgeable fans will be green with envy.

As for Winslow, he's so great that he couldn't lead the Browns to anything and they didn't want him......but he had nice stats.
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Winslow is a fine player. It's not his fault the Browns suck at everything else.

The best hope is that his knee is so screwed that it limits his impact in Tampa.
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As for Winslow, he's so great that he couldn't lead the Browns to anything and they didn't want him......but he had nice stats.
Yes. Because tight ends lead teams to wins and championships.

Winslow is probably the 2nd or 3rd best receiving TE in the league. He is an absolute mismatch for a defense. We have no one on our defense that can answer for him. I think we go LB in the first for sure now, especially with the likely signing of LJ Smith.
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Hey, I just wanted to ask a real quick question. How good was Dominque Foxworth for you guys last year? How much did he play and how good was he? Many raven fans are real hyped about this but I don't know enough about him yet.
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Hey, I just wanted to ask a real quick question. How good was Dominque Foxworth for you guys last year? How much did he play and how good was he? Many raven fans are real hyped about this but I don't know enough about him yet.
He was our best player in coverage. Other than ABE and Babs, you can say he was our best defensive player. Im pissed we aren't going to get him back. He played a good deal at the end of the year and started in the playoffs.
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Hey, I just wanted to ask a real quick question. How good was Dominque Foxworth for you guys last year? How much did he play and how good was he? Many raven fans are real hyped about this but I don't know enough about him yet.

He was a full time starter. He's not a #1 corner. He played pretty well for us, and I think he will be a good #2 type. Too much money however.
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Getting Winslow would have been a mistake. Maintain the chemistry.
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Getting Winslow would have been a mistake. Maintain the chemistry.

LJ's been known to cry and complain and isn't half the player Winslow is.
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Getting Winslow would have been a mistake. Maintain the chemistry.
I seriously think all Winslow cares about winning. Put him in a winning environment, a la Randy Moss, and he will start producing at a great rate. His reaction to the staph infection was completely valid.
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So does T.O. They love winning...when they are catching balls. No reason to bring in a player like that.
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So does T.O. They love winning...when they are catching balls. No reason to bring in a player like that.
I don't think the comparison is anywhere close really. Unless I've missed a lot since he was in the NFL, I haven't heard a whole lot (outside of the staph mess) from him. He had a fluke broken leg on onside kickoff coverage team, made a poor decision on a motorcycle, was a Pro Bowler, then had staph infection (one of MANY on the Browns) and was pissed about it. Anyone who knows anything about him knows the guy is confident (if not cocky) but I haven't seen any undermining that TO has been known to do.

Besides the draft pick compensation for him, the only reason I could see for not wanting to trade for Winslow is the fact TEs in Mularkey's system are blockers moreso than receivers and clearly not worth the money or picks.
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Well, that was a pretty annoying day to be a Falcon fan.

Hopefully today is more interesting.
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Interestingly, the Haynesworth deal is apparently actually (due to a 29 mill roster bonus after the 4th year) a 4 year, 48 mill deal, with 41 of that guaranteed.

So basically 12 mill p.a., for Haynesworth while he is 28-32. Not actually that ridiculous. The big risk is if he gets injured or plays less well with the big bank balance, then all that guaranteed cash is a load on their back. But really not as bad as $100 mill sounds. That was clearly agent P.R.
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What is the deal on Sean Jones? Was he franchised? I dont hear too much about where he is going and all.
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Originally Posted by d34ng3l021 View Post
What is the deal on Sean Jones? Was he franchised? I dont hear too much about where he is going and all.
nope, the browns didn't tag him. I'm pretty sure he's a FA.
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