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Old 10-03-2010, 03:20 PM    (permalink
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Look at his stats on the year. He is better than average at best. He is a franchise QB. Look at Aaron Rodgers today, he threw 3 picks. Everybody has games where they throw picks. I truly believe Ryan is a top 5 QB within 2-3 years.

Maybe in 2-3 years, but he's barely average at this point. He had a huge game against the Cardinals, looked very good against the Saints, and simply atrocious against SF and PIT, after looking awful last year.
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I thought he looked good against the Steelers, other than the INT. I've discussed that one previously. I do agree that he looked bad today. That's 3/4 good games. He is better than average right now.
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I thought he looked good against the Steelers, other than the INT. I've discussed that one previously. I do agree that he looked bad today. That's 3/4 good games. He is better than average right now.

You mean the INT that should have cost us the game? And the fact that he threw the ball 45 times without putting the ball in the endzone? I guess we have different definitions of good.
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You mean the INT that should have cost us the game? And the fact that he threw the ball 45 times without putting the ball in the endzone? I guess we have different definitions of good.
Don't feel like debating the Pittsburgh game again. Look back like 5 pages. He made the right reads that game, had no help from the running game, and nobody else other than Roddy White stepped up at receiver.
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I think we should have William Moore ahead of Coleman and Stephen Nicolas ahead of peterson. After today's game, they deserve to be #1 on the depth chart.
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William Moore is sick. With Weatherspoon back we're going to really improve as well.
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Oh and for the Steelers game... Matt Ryan had really horrible accuracy, that's all I remember.
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Im middle of the pack w/ Ryan, not as extreme as ATL and not as impressed as Draft King. Today He looked awful, thats for sure, accuracy was extremely bad, granted HD drops 80% of the balls thrown to him, w/o Roddy, Ryan wouldnt have done ****, so sick catches on his part.

Ryan made some pretty terrible decisions, holding onto the ball to long, the INt at the end of the game, I mean wtf man? game was on the line...

His first was tipped so ya ok not as bad, but that goes back again to accuracy, to be an elite QB that we all want him to be and the few flashes hes shown, he has to be able to make those throws in crucial situations.

Now aside from bashing him, at least after the pick and being pinned inside our own 10 w/ less than 2 to play at least he had enough composure to drive down in FG range again, so at least he didnt quit if anything positive from him this game.
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I'm really impressed with the defense more then anything. They have gotten 2 interceptions in each game we had so far. It makes it much easier to win when they are forcing turnover and making big plays.
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Im middle of the pack w/ Ryan, not as extreme as ATL and not as impressed as Draft King. Today He looked awful, thats for sure, accuracy was extremely bad, granted HD drops 80% of the balls thrown to him, w/o Roddy, Ryan wouldnt have done ****, so sick catches on his part.

Ryan made some pretty terrible decisions, holding onto the ball to long, the INt at the end of the game, I mean wtf man? game was on the line...

His first was tipped so ya ok not as bad, but that goes back again to accuracy, to be an elite QB that we all want him to be and the few flashes hes shown, he has to be able to make those throws in crucial situations.

Now aside from bashing him, at least after the pick and being pinned inside our own 10 w/ less than 2 to play at least he had enough composure to drive down in FG range again, so at least he didnt quit if anything positive from him this game.

I said he's average at best. I don't think that is very extreme... And the tipped pass pick came from forcing a ball into coverage, and we don't do **** on the last drive if it wasn't for a few bail outs from a top 3 WR.
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You guys are lucky to have a receiver like White. I am pretty sure all but one of his catches came in the 4th Q and that forced fumble was a play that not many receivers would have made.
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It's not like it was his first time. It's amazing how long he has come. I remember when he couldn't catch ****, and I thought it was just another WR fail by the FO. Roddy is on pace for some records this year.
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White has played great this year no doubt about it
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I think it's about time Roddy gets consideration for being the 3rd best WR in football.
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there are just alot of very good WR in the league. Im not saying Roddy isn't by any means b/c he always performs, just alot of competition.

Fitz, Andre johnson, Randy, Marshall, Calvin(just on talent, ****** situation)

But ya he should fit into most top 3s
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We play the Browns? Nice. We should beat them like a rag-doll. 5-1 is a nice place to be, especially with the only loss coming at Pittsburgh in OT. Some of our wins have not been 'pretty' and we have been 'lucky' at times, but you need to win ugly and lucky in the NFL. We are definitely in position for a playoff bye considering all the lousy teams still on our schedule.
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This should be a fun game. Or disaster.
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Fun, like the Cardinals game.

BTW: how about William Moore! 2nd pick. So glad he is healthy.
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William Moore is amazing. Erik Coleman last year went the whole season without a pick. Willy Mo is just a big play maker.

Holy **** guys we're already in week 5. This is going by so fast.
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Moore has been a good suprise and if he keeps it up we dont have to worry about saftey for the next 5-7 years
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The defensive line is playing really well. They are not getting any numbers, nothing show up on the stat sheet. But they are getting so much pressure and good push compared to last year.
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The defense as a unit are vastly improved based on last season. Would be nice to finally draft offense...like a true #2 WR
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The D-line are doing well, but I still see DE as a priority for our 1st pick (also, a lot of the improvement is due to better push from the middle).

Abe is aging rapidly; Biermann is quality; Sidbury is promising, but hasn't shown anything yet; Anderson is a useful swingman, but clearly not an elite passrusher; and Davis is just a role player.

A premier passrusher to throw in the mix - a gradual introduction in 2011 (assuming there is football), followed by full replacement of Abe in 2012 - would be perfect, I think, and is necessary to push our D towards elite level.

By the way, I don't see the Cleveland game as that easy. We'll need to be on top of our game, especially the run D. That said, their passing game is so poor that we can really sell out on the run and should be fairly secure against the big play.
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Pats are trading Randy Moss to Vikings. We could be that team.
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Pats are trading Randy Moss to Vikings. We could be that team.
Nah, that's completely contrary to our identity as an organisation.

That said, adding Moss would make our offense ridiculous, and it definitely makes Minnesota a more dangerous NFC competitor this year.

I'm already looking ahead a bit to the playoffs ;)
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