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Old 01-16-2012, 07:50 AM    (permalink
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To be fair just about everybody was begging for Glenn Dorsey and Brian Brohm instead of Matt Ryan. Glad he tuned people out, including me, who didn't want Ryan. Sure, he's missed a couple picks, but he has nailed a ton too. The biggest miss for me was Peria Jerry, never liked the selection, came out old and can't stay healthy. Dimitroff has got some great young talent in Weatherspoon, Ryan, Willy Mo, Corey Peters, Julio, Jacquizz, and Lofton. I'm probably missing some too. The only huge miss FA wise to me is Dunta, I don't think Ray Edwards is really that bad because we got him on a decent contract.
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Michael Turner is also a fine FA acquisition, and the Tony G trade was nice too. I think TD has done a decent job drafting so far, I won't ridicule him just yet. He really turned the organization around and I like the type of characters he brings to the team.
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TD's a good GM. Maybe not the genius we once thought he was, but still pretty good. He'll really be put to the test this year though, with tough decisions such as Abraham, Lofton, Grimes, outside FAs, etc.

Smith is a good HC. With him (provided we stay injury free) we're a solid blue collar team, who is going to win around 9+ every year. The issue comes with the fact that he seems to get overwhelmed by the playoffs, and he's not a great X and O guy.


We just have to take that next step. Successful coordinators and a bit more talent, and we've got a chance.
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The greatest thing about TD is that he is very aggressive in terms of trying to make this team as great as possible. He picked up Ryan and then traded up for an LT, signed Turner, signed Dontae, signed Ray Edwards, traded for Tony G, traded way up for Julio Jones.

I would like TD to be the GM of this team for a long time, we have the talent, it's on the coaches right now.
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TD has been the absolute worst at the thing that's supposed to be his specialty, defensive backs, that's the only problem I have at this point, I want a good secondary, and he should be able to bring that here, unfortunately he's not done it.

In large part it has a lot to do with our DC and our piss poor DBs coaches.
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Not sure how you can blame TD for the DBs. Brent Grimes turned into a pro bowler, TD brought in Dunta Robinson, DeCoud, and Moore. They have been decent, but it's hard to judge when your defensive scheme has been so ****** and the QB had so much time to throw the ball.
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Sounding like Nolan and Spags are the top 2 candidates still and there are reports we'll find out tomorrow who our next DC is going to be. Good stuff.

As far as the DBs, what'd TD have to do with Grimes becoming a Pro Bowler? Little to nothing imo, that was his own hard work and a bit of luck. Decoud hasn't been decent for years now, in fact, he's been garbage. A healthy William Moore was a good pickup, just hope he can do something about drafting guys that never play due to injury.

Robinson was hot garbage this year, I mean just absolutely miserable, that has to change.
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Per Jay Glazer we just signed Mike Nolan. Very happy with the signing.
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According to Jay Glazer: Falcons have hired Mike Nolan as their new defensive coordinator
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Say goodbye to Brent Grimes. Does this mean we become a hybrid D or just a 3-4?
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Broncos fan here. He was actually really impressive with us, and although we've gone through like 8 d-coordinators in 9 years, he was our most impressive (along with Dennis Allen, this year's guy)

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Sweet! I'm amped up about this. I think we'll see a hybrid defense out there, I certainly hope we don't try to go to the 3-4, cause we don't have the pieces right now, then again, maybe I'd be surprised and Spoon could make a great rush LB.

Abe is a free agent, maybe we'll let him walk away, let Grimes walk, and we'll have lots of cash to throw at some 3-4 type Free Agents, plus we'd have a whole new use for some of the guys who don't play much. Babs could easily play 5 tech, I think Ray Edwards could also play 5 tech, so that'd fix the DEs, Porkchop wouldn't be the best NT, maybe a rotational 5 tech for run situations.

Robinson should be allowed to get up on the WRs and really use his physicality to his benefit now, that could be a nice 'upgrade' for the defense. Moore will fit in just fine no matter what. I think Franks actually fits in a press situation better as he's got those long arms and plenty of speed, same with Walls.

LBs, put Mike Pete in the Middle next to Lofton, and that'd be pretty freaking nice for ILBs, then you'd be able to put Spoon on one end, with Sidbury on the other, and that'd be pretty nasty, although if we swap to 3-4 I expect to see a Nigel Bradham type LB drafted, those FSU backers lately have really done well in the 3-4 and Bradham fits the mold of a Timmons perfectly. So, maybe we'd have an easier transition than we initially thought.

What big space eaters are out there in free agency for NT though?
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If we switch to a 3-4 defense Peria Jerry is going to have to have a very
productive off season.

The main thing that it's going to boil down to is the chemistry between
Mike Smith & Mike Nolan and hope that this doesn't become an issue where
it's like sticking a square peg in a round hole.
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What big space eaters are out there in free agency for NT though?
The two obvious ones are Aubrayo Franklin and Sione Pouha
Then there are second tier guys like Kelly Gregg or Paul Solial.

Plus there are a few good options in the draft. Not a bad year to switch to a 3-4

Nolan is much better running a 3-4 imho
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The main thing that it's going to boil down to is the chemistry between
Mike Smith & Mike Nolan and hope that this doesn't become an issue where
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Well the two have worked together before. I don't see why we would hire Nolan if he didn't agree with Smith and vice versa.
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Hybrid, base 43, I'd imagine. Also known as my favorite defense. Love confusing the **** out of the offensive line.

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Enjoy him, he is a bright guy.
Yes, I remember what he did with that defense that had a lot of no names, and everyone thought McDaniels was a genius after that fast start. I gather from what I've seen that he's very aggressive, lots of pre snap motion. Agree?

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Sweet! I'm amped up about this. I think we'll see a hybrid defense out there, I certainly hope we don't try to go to the 3-4, cause we don't have the pieces right now, then again, maybe I'd be surprised and Spoon could make a great rush LB.

Abe is a free agent, maybe we'll let him walk away, let Grimes walk, and we'll have lots of cash to throw at some 3-4 type Free Agents, plus we'd have a whole new use for some of the guys who don't play much. Babs could easily play 5 tech, I think Ray Edwards could also play 5 tech, so that'd fix the DEs, Porkchop wouldn't be the best NT, maybe a rotational 5 tech for run situations.

Robinson should be allowed to get up on the WRs and really use his physicality to his benefit now, that could be a nice 'upgrade' for the defense. Moore will fit in just fine no matter what. I think Franks actually fits in a press situation better as he's got those long arms and plenty of speed, same with Walls.

LBs, put Mike Pete in the Middle next to Lofton, and that'd be pretty freaking nice for ILBs, then you'd be able to put Spoon on one end, with Sidbury on the other, and that'd be pretty nasty, although if we swap to 3-4 I expect to see a Nigel Bradham type LB drafted, those FSU backers lately have really done well in the 3-4 and Bradham fits the mold of a Timmons perfectly. So, maybe we'd have an easier transition than we initially thought.

What big space eaters are out there in free agency for NT though?
First off, we aren't moving to a 34. I'd be absolutely shocked. Did you read/listen to the PC after the loss? Did Arthur Blank seem like a person who wants to wait on a transitional period for the D before we make a SB run? No. I mean, I could see us bringing in more versatile pieces (like a DT over 300 lbs, etc.) but a full move? Can't see it.

While I have little doubt Spoon could play almost any LB position, rush LB would be his worst. In 34 looks I'd imagine he plays similar to Lawrence Timmons with Lofton (no brainer he'll be the guy we bring back, even if it's on a tag) as the thumper.

Can't see Ray as a 5 tech. Maybe on 3rd and long, but certainly not every down. Peters and Babs are good fits though.

Franks may be slightly more suited for a man scheme, but Walls is definitely a Cover 2 type.

Peterson should be no where near a starter.
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All in all, great hire. I would have preferred Spags because, well, I'd run a defense just like his if I was a DC, but this move is impossible to complain about.


I do want to hear from Nolan and his plans on 34/43 though. While I know he has run a 43 before, I really think of him as a 34 guy, and I can't see us making a full blown move to that scheme.
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All in all, great hire. I would have preferred Spags because, well, I'd run a defense just like his if I was a DC, but this move is impossible to complain about.


I do want to hear from Nolan and his plans on 34/43 though. While I know he has run a 43 before, I really think of him as a 34 guy, and I can't see us making a full blown move to that scheme.
Oh I don't think we'll make a full blown move this season either, and I wouldn't expect to, we don't have the draft picks or enough of the pieces in place right now.

I sort of disagree on Walls, but I was more talking about his long arms and being able to use those to be physical, Nnaamdi isn't a very strong guy, but he's got those long arms that allow him to get to the WR and screw up the routes. Not saying Walls is Aso, just meaning the arms can play in his favor and work with the ball skills he has.

But yeah, not a full blown move, at least not right now, I'm not against the move, but I really am a big fan of the 4-3 defense and what it can bring on every single down instead of having to rely on that 4th or 5th guy for pressure, a well coached DL can get it with 4, and that opens up a ton of coverages.
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Something else on the 3-4 Dent played LB in the 3-4 his last year in college and was very proudctive. I could also see beerman making the move to OLB if he lost some weight
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Nolan: It's my philosophy that you build
your scheme around players, not the other
way around.
https://twitter.com/#!/Atlanta_Falco...66165248036864

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Nolan: It appears the 4-3 is what's best for
that football team.
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Nolan: I like to think that I've always done
what's best for the team, whether that's 3-4,
4-3, more blitzes, less blitzes.
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Nolan: We're not trying to move this
defense toward a 3-4. We're trying to
make the current 11 guys better the best we can.
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Saw some Nolan quotes, and he says this team is definitely built for the 4-3. I wonder what kind of confusing schemes he can come up with using only 3 LBs. I am excited to see what he can do, but worry about the free agent situation.

Getting RG or DE would be nice, but retaining Grimes and Lofton is a must as well. Grimes especially...we have no CB depth. What do you think the FO should do?
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Saw some Nolan quotes, and he says this team is definitely built for the 4-3. I wonder what kind of confusing schemes he can come up with using only 3 LBs. I am excited to see what he can do, but worry about the free agent situation.

Getting RG or DE would be nice, but retaining Grimes and Lofton is a must as well. Grimes especially...we have no CB depth. What do you think the FO should do?
grimes doesn't fit nolan's press scheme according to someone's post earlier so he might be shown the door.
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Grimes isn't under contract with the Falcons. I could easily see them letting him walk
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[Is it time to put the Georgia Dome out to the pasture of conventions, high school football and Monster Truck events?]


If you're just waking up to the discussion, here are the basics: the Atlanta Falcons currently play in the Georgia Dome, which was completed in 1992 at a cost of $214 million (and recently renovated at a cost of $30 million). And though it seems there are plenty of people that find it a perfectly nice place to watch a football game, Falcons owner Arthur Blank would disagree (as would the NFL). As word comes this week that Governor Deal and the State of Georgia seem inclined to help Blank in his quest for a new, open-air stadium on a parcel of land semi-adjacent to the Dome, more than a few folks are concerned about just how it will be paid for. And rightly so- the City and the State are kind of broke, right? The critics' arguments are bolstered by studies like these, which present a pretty compelling case that sports stadiums don't spark the local economic growth often cited in justification of bond or taxpayer financing for their construction. Plain old logic and practicality have some relevance here, too. Given Atlanta's many pressing infrastructure and education needs (to name just two), does it make sense to spend $694 million on a structure that the Falcons will use between 8-10 times per year? Hat Tip to AJC Buzz for making us aware of the U Illinois study.
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