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Old 04-27-2013, 12:56 PM    (permalink
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9ers draft is amazing, and we just take Toilolo, jesus christ. Why not Jessie Williams, Corn Wash, hell even an OL or WR depth.
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I'm okay with Toilolo. He would have been a much higher pick had he stayed for his senior year and been featured in that Stanford passing game. He's 6'8", can be a redzone target this season and move into the starting role after Gonzalez retires.
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I'm okay with Toilolo. He would have been a much higher pick had he stayed for his senior year and been featured in that Stanford passing game. He's 6'8", can be a redzone target this season and move into the starting role after Gonzalez retires.
Is he even that good to step in after Gonzo?
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I don't see why he wouldn't have a good shot. It's not as if we need much from our tight end if we continue to surround Ryan with weapons on the outside.

I don't see why he wouldn't be able to at least be a good starting tight end in the mold of Scott Chandler.
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Saints got a great fit with Kenny Stills.
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I don't see why he wouldn't have a good shot. It's not as if we need much from our tight end if we continue to surround Ryan with weapons on the outside.

I don't see why he wouldn't be able to at least be a good starting tight end in the mold of Scott Chandler.
Well if he can at least be a 50 catch guy and a redzone threat after Tony is gone then that saves us a pick next year and maybe he turns out to be a good pickup.

I know we don't like bad character guys but Id love to add DaRick Rodgers at this point in the draft as a depth guy
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agreed, alot like Moore there now. Another good reason why getting some athletic corners was a good thing.
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I really wonder why Washington is dropping so hard. He wasn't a system fit at UGA and tested great if I recall.
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I'm glad we took another DE, even if I know nothing about him. TCU plays defense though.
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I'm glad we took another DE, even if I know nothing about him. TCU plays defense though.
Ya might as well throw as many in there as we can and hope 1 pans out at this point.

As far as CornWash goes though, His measureables and testing were amazing, no idea why he has fallen this far, def worth taking a risk on.

We still need OL and WR depth, possibly S depth too. Need a big upgrade at LB
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I don't understand how we haven't taken a LB.

As far ass Washington, Sidbury tested great and we never got him many significant snaps. The guys we have drafted this year have been thick and long-armed. I don't know.
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I really like the Toilolo pick.
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No one really to get excited about.
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No not really. Im happy with the Sean Renfree pick though. We need a backup QB and he was a steal in the 7th round.
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Seth Doege QB

Donald Russell RB
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Darius Johnson WR
Rashad evans WR
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Ryan Schraeder OT
Matt Smith OL
Alex Savoie OT
Terren Jones OL

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Brandon Thurmond DE
Cam Henderson DE

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I liked the renfree pick as well. He played well for Duke
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He really has a lot of tools. He's got the size, strong arm, the smarts, experience. He's also a pretty good athlete. What hurt his stock is an injury so he couldn't perform in any pre-draft workouts.
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I love the Falcons draft. Trufant, Goodman, Toilolo, and Renfree were all guys I was hoping for the Chiefs. Toilolo will be a step down from Gonzo, but seriously, any TE would be. Not a dynamic athlete but I think he'll keep the middle of the field muddied for defenses post-Gonzo. Renfree at the very least is a great developmental backup type at QB, might become flippable in the future.

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I don't understand how we haven't taken a LB.

As far ass Washington, Sidbury tested great and we never got him many significant snaps. The guys we have drafted this year have been thick and long-armed. I don't know.
TD was asked what position he missed on during the draft and he said LB, especially on weak side. This confirms even more that he wanted to take Arthur Brown before the Ravens stole him from us.

As far as Sidbury goes, everyone knows he should have been given more time. He left and talked very negatively about the team and I don't blame him.
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TD was asked what position he missed on during the draft and he said LB, especially on weak side. This confirms even more that he wanted to take Arthur Brown before the Ravens stole him from us.

As far as Sidbury goes, everyone knows he should have been given more time. He left and talked very negatively about the team and I don't blame him.
The closer we got to the draft, the more I thought of LB as a pressing need. We need two good linebackers, not one. We can't run four corners out there every play and, as we saw last year, Nicholas can easily be exploited. Dent isn't worth talking about. Our defense next year with Arthur Brown (in place of Alford and a later pick) would be respectable. I can't help but think this will only make TD more aggressive; his strategy has been to trade up and get his guy, and the one time he doesn't do it, it kicks him in the ass.

That said, I still think we got a very good player in Alford and he should be a big time contributor in years to come. I'm hoping he takes the nickel from McClain. We need playmaking. Alford started out as a WR in college and has the ability to run it back once he does get it. He's at least as physical as Trufant as well.

Although, Trufant really showcased his long speed by running down Alford on that Senior Bowl kickoff return. Same 40 times essentially but Trufant is a more gifted, fluid athlete, and that's not a knock on Alford at all.

Lastly, I'm wondering where we had some of these guys ranked altogether. I suppose we had Trufant in the top 10 to 15 but that may be wishful thinking. Same with Alford, who easily could have went high second. Between the corners drafted between Trufant and Alford, there was Rhodes, Slay, Banks, Amerson, and Taylor. JMO but the only ones we would have taken higher than Alford are likely Rhodes and Taylor. And considering he avoided taking a LB/DE at that spot instead of a fourth corner, we obviously had a high evaluation of Alford.

Then, lastly, you have the defensive ends. Where did we have Goodman and Maponga. We felt strongly enough to trade up for Maponga and we liked Goodman more than him half a round earlier. I would have rather grabbed guys like Lavar Edwards or Quanterus Smith. OR JESSE WILLIAMS. I mean, we could have had those guys. We passed on Brandon Jenkins, who was the next DE drafted, for Maponga. Then again, I don't know anything about these guys really. But we'll see how they perform, because they both have opportunities for significant roles.
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As far as the corners goes, I love both, and they fit great with our defense. Not adding an OLB that can cover and has speed will hurt. Nicolas wasnt great last year at all and it showed greatly in the playoffs when we had zero clue how to cover a TE of any kind.

Love we traded up for Trufant but losing that 3rd stings, it was the right thing to do but always tough to see the guys you miss out on (Khaseem Greense, Jelani Jenkins ) as far as OLB goes.

I would have loved Jessie Williams but apparently there is major concern with his knee, I know he hurt it in the NC game and later came back in but obviously there are pretty big issues with it for him to possibly be a late 1st to dropping to the 5th.

As fas as upgrading the defense I dont feel we did that. We basically replaced Grimes with Trufant, and Alford should be better suited than Robinson, but I dont think Osi will be any better than Abe, and we didnt add anything (IMO) that is going to be able to make a drastic difference in our pass rush problems. Our LB core is the exact same which leaves things to be desired, especially Dent who is nothing more than a ST player at this point, he is just awful, Nicholas shows flashes but he too should be a backup.

Hopefully the offense is just too good for it to matter.
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As far as the corners goes, I love both, and they fit great with our defense. Not adding an OLB that can cover and has speed will hurt. Nicolas wasnt great last year at all and it showed greatly in the playoffs when we had zero clue how to cover a TE of any kind.

Love we traded up for Trufant but losing that 3rd stings, it was the right thing to do but always tough to see the guys you miss out on (Khaseem Greense, Jelani Jenkins ) as far as OLB goes.

I would have loved Jessie Williams but apparently there is major concern with his knee, I know he hurt it in the NC game and later came back in but obviously there are pretty big issues with it for him to possibly be a late 1st to dropping to the 5th.

As fas as upgrading the defense I dont feel we did that. We basically replaced Grimes with Trufant, and Alford should be better suited than Robinson, but I dont think Osi will be any better than Abe, and we didnt add anything (IMO) that is going to be able to make a drastic difference in our pass rush problems. Our LB core is the exact same which leaves things to be desired, especially Dent who is nothing more than a ST player at this point, he is just awful, Nicholas shows flashes but he too should be a backup.

Hopefully the offense is just too good for it to matter.
We didn't have Grimes last season. Our cornerback situation has improved vastly and we're not paying them much at all. Our secondary should be very solid.

However, yes. We have problems in the front seven. If we bring back Abraham, then it's another story. That leaves us with Osi, Abe, Biermann and both rookies at the position.

I have to think that we may have stayed put at 30 if we had known that Alford would be available in round two.

Zaviar Gooden/Jelani Jenkins in round three would have been a major contributor for this defense. Or Ogletree/Alford. Whatever. But hindsight is 20/20 and TD made the right move by moving up to get Trufant. Just should have done it again for Brown.
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