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Old 09-15-2008, 09:23 AM    (permalink
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So looking at those teams this year, we have some horrible, horrible teams.

I cant see the Rams or the Chiefs win more than 1 and 0-16 is quite possible.
U know a team has problems if a team tries a WR at the QB position.

Raiders are lucky to play teh Chiefs twice, i cant see them get more than 4-6 wins this season unless DMac beasts like AD.

Bengals...Well they still have to play the Ravens and the Browns but i also cant see how they can make it any better. 2-4 wins with what they have shown so far

Miami looks better than last year but also is horrible. 2 wins maybe.

The Lions, well they are the lions, they could still win 1-2 games against the bears but i dont have any faith in them after playing only about 5 minutes serious football...

So many horrible horrible teams out now and we havent seen Houston after their big loss and Seahawks with their serious injury problems
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I don't think it's going to be as horrible as you're making it out to be. The Bengals and Dolphins have just enough to win 4 or more games, with the Texans 6 or more. The ones that i'd really worry about are the Cheaps, Raiders and Rams.

Kansas City has nothing remotely close to resembling an offfense, and their defense isn't even middle of the road, either. The Rams are pretty pitiful, especially on defense. If they get hot, they might win a shootout or two, but i wouldn't bet on it. The Raiders, well.. They're the Raiders.
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the Chiefs suck. We will see how bad they suck even more so next week when they play Atlanta.
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you know how bad you have to be to go 0-16? I don't think we'll see that this year.

Unless the Rams do it. But in their defense, they played the Eagles and Giants in the first 2 weeks of the season.

The Rams do look terrible though. But I can see 2 wins maybe.
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On paper, I think the Lions are an 0-16 team. I think we'll end up pulling off 2 or 3 wins, but we should be the underdog in every one of our remaining games.
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Marques Hagans played QB in College his senior year, he's just not tall enough to play in the NFL. So its not that out of context.


Rams....HA! Ugh, wow kill me now.
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I can see the Chiefs and/or Bengals both going into week 17 at 0-15. The only winnable games I see on the Chiefs schedule are @Atlanta, @Oakland, and Miami and with how bad the Bengals have looked I don't know if they can beat anyone.
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The Bengals will win. Their offense will do enough in some games to make up for what they have lacked so far. I see them at around 4-5 wins.
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if we play like we did in the 4th quarter then we will go 0-16

if we play like we did against the gaints through the first half of the 3rd, then we will win some games

but of course those are some big iffs
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Yea, but thats like letting a guy like Antwan Randle El play QB. its a big issue. Im not saying all those teams I mentioned will go 0-16 or have a chance, more that we have alot of horrible teams that are close to it
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Yea, but thats like letting a guy like Antwan Randle El play QB. its a big issue. Im not saying all those teams I mentioned will go 0-16 or have a chance, more that we have alot of horrible teams that are close to it
Which brings up another good point. If we have a lot of temas with very few wins (less than 5) we will also have a simlar number of teams with very few losses (also less than 5). That is just an example. But what I am trying to say is, if there are a lot of teams with very few wins, there will be a lot of competition for playoff spots.
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On paper, I think the Lions are an 0-16 team. I think we'll end up pulling off 2 or 3 wins, but we should be the underdog in every one of our remaining games.
I think that's being a little pessimistic. The Lions are no where near as bad as the Rams or the Cheaps are. Detroit showed yesterday that they can battle back, and possibly win a few shootout games. I mean, don't expect the defense to stop anyone, but you have a pretty strong passing attack, that just might net you a few wins. Can't say the same for Kansas City or St. Louis though.
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I am praying that the Lions lose all 16 games this year. And don't misunderstand my hopes. It's not that I am no longer a Lions fan and supporter. It's exactly the opposite. I AM a Lions fan, and therefore realize that the only way that Ford, Sr. ever makes the necessary changes (i.e. Fire Millen, clean house again) is if we are unquestionably regressing. We won seven games last year. All the talk of the organization was that we would be even better this year. Fans recognized the hollow nature of that seven win season last year. They finished 1-7 in the last 8 games after all. How could the current regime possibly keep their job after a step backwards of 4-5 wins following a 7 win season? Normal logic, and even the contorted logic the Lions organization operates under could not deny the necessity to blow up the team.

0-16 . . . here we come.
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I am praying that the Lions lose all 16 games this year. And don't misunderstand my hopes. It's not that I am no longer a Lions fan and supporter. It's exactly the opposite. I AM a Lions fan, and therefore realize that the only way that Ford, Sr. ever makes the necessary changes (i.e. Fire Millen, clean house again) is if we are unquestionably regressing. We won seven games last year. All the talk of the organization was that we would be even better this year. Fans recognized the hollow nature of that seven win season last year. They finished 1-7 in the last 8 games after all. How could the current regime possibly keep their job after a step backwards of 4-5 wins following a 7 win season? Normal logic, and even the contorted logic the Lions organization operates under could not deny the necessity to blow up the team.

0-16 . . . here we come.
Clean house, draft Stafford and hope for the best.
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God I hope so.

Seriously, the Lions no more than about 6 young players worth building the team around . . . Calvin Johnson, Ernie Sims, Gosder Cherilus for sure, with Roy Williams, Daniel Bullocks, and Drew Stanton as hopefuls for the future.
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OK, someone do some research and find out just how many 0-16 teams there have been?
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Zero. Tampa Bay was 0-14 as an expansion team. No team has ever lost them all since they went to a 16 game schedule.

The Lions may well make history.
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Nevermind, I did it myself.

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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers went 0-14 in their first season in the NFL (1976). A season was 14 games long in 1976. They are the only team to have gone through an entire season without a victory or a tie. The 1960 Dallas Cowboys went 0-11-1. A season was 12 games long in 1960.

With that being said, I'd say the odds are relatively low that anyone go 0-16.
Horrible teams, definitely.
0-16, i'm not sure.
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The Dolphins should have gone 0-16 last year, really. That win over Baltimore was a gift.

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0-16 . . . here we come.
If a team goes 0-16, they will never live that down. Ever.
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I would love for the Lions to go 0-16 to the tune of a 1930s silent cartoon.
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God I hope so.

Seriously, the Lions no more than about 6 young players worth building the team around . . . Calvin Johnson, Ernie Sims, Gosder Cherilus for sure, with Roy Williams, Daniel Bullocks, and Drew Stanton as hopefuls for the future.
I do agree with you though, that as bad as it sounds, the Lions are doing themselves a disservice by winning games. Last year they overplayed their talent, even though they did lose 7 of 8 down the stretch. They just need to get back to building through the draft, but that obviously isn't gonna get anywhere so long as Millen is running them.
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I do agree with you though, that as bad as it sounds, the Lions are doing themselves a disservice by winning games. Last year they overplayed their talent, even though they did lose 7 of 8 down the stretch. They just need to get back to building through the draft, but that obviously isn't gonna get anywhere so long as Millen is running them.
One day when I have some time on my hands I am gonna compile a ranked list of the worst Millen draft picks. Mike Williams is undoubtedly #1 but the list would be lengthy. I can count all of his good draft picks on my 10 fingers in his 8 years.
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No team will go 0-16, if the Dolphins last year couldn't.
The Lions could do it. The Dolphns came close. The only thing they lacked was a 50 year long history of losing.
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