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Old 09-17-2008, 02:46 PM    (permalink
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Kampman's been in GB for a while, Allen and that coaching staff are still figuring out how to best utilize him whereas GB has had a lot of time to get comfortable with what Kampman can do.
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Kampman's been in GB for a while, Allen and that coaching staff are still figuring out how to best utilize him whereas GB has had a lot of time to get comfortable with what Kampman can do.
Best utilize him? He's a DE. He either plays on the right, or the left.

Rush the passer. Plug and chug.


Kampman has been the most disrespected pass rusher in the league the past 3 years. Steady Eddie, he's consistently at the top of the pass rushing list, and is one of the best run stuffing DEs.

He also has less help on that line. He just shows up to work every sunday and gets it done.
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Kampman - Has 43.5 Sacks in 6 Seasons and 2 games

Allen - Has 44.0 Sacks in 4 Season and 2 Games.

I know Stats doesnt mean everything but 2 years ahead and almost the same sack count in a career....I think it might be Kampman < Allen sack wise.

Both pretty good.
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I'd say they're about equals... same type of DE, both had great season last year. I guess you could argue Allen is better, careerwise he's got .5 sack more than Kampman, while playing 2 seasons less. But Kampman did get more sacks over the past two years (27.5 to Allen's 23)... but I'd say they tie.
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Jared Allen is a better pass rusher, Kampman is slighty better run stuffing. I dunno though pretty equal.
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Kampman - Has 43.5 Sacks in 6 Seasons and 2 games

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I know Stats doesnt mean everything but 2 years ahead and almost the same sack count in a career....I think it might be Kampman < Allen.
meh, Kampman similar to Strahan, started out slow. i do admit though, that kind of shat on my argument.

I will make this statement: Kampman will finish with more sacks than Allen this year.
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Best utilize him? He's a DE. He either plays on the right, or the left.

Rush the passer. Plug and chug.


Kampman has been the most disrespected pass rusher in the league the past 3 years. Steady Eddie, he's consistently at the top of the pass rushing list, and is one of the best run stuffing DEs.

He also has less help on that line. He just shows up to work every sunday and gets it done.
It's not really going to work that way. Strong side and Weakside are two different end positions. Not to mention now he is in a different confrence, and division, so they may handle him alot better than teams in KC's division.

Because of the ability to stop the run, the Vikings might have their ends contain, rather than crash. Who knows? Then on pass rushing plays, 3rd down, he may be doubled and perhaps doubled and chipped by opposing Rbs. So I can understrand why the production may be low. I don't think it's as easy as plug and chug.
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Best utilize him? He's a DE. He either plays on the right, or the left.

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Kampman has been the most disrespected pass rusher in the league the past 3 years. Steady Eddie, he's consistently at the top of the pass rushing list, and is one of the best run stuffing DEs.

He also has less help on that line. He just shows up to work every sunday and gets it done.
Allen's a very different pass rusher than Kampman as he's a lot quicker and a little smaller so he doesn't have quite as much with the bull rush. They're different types of guys. So kampman's team-mates know how what he does effects what they do and vice versa better than allen. With time Allen will have a better feel for how his team-mates affect the opposition, making life easier for him.
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It's not really going to work that way. Strong side and Weakside are two different end positions. Not to mention now he is in a different confrence, and division, so they may handle him alot better than teams in KC's division.

Because of the ability to stop the run, the Vikings might have their ends contain, rather than crash. Who knows? Then on pass rushing plays, 3rd down, he may be doubled and perhaps doubled and chipped by opposing Rbs. So I can understrand why the production may be low. I don't think it's as easy as plug and chug.
I know that. But he's pretty much playing the same position, just on a different team. If anything, he has less gap worries with those big boys inside, which allows him to burn the edge more.
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meh, Kampman similar to Strahan, started out slow. i do admit though, that kind of shat on my argument.

I will make this statement: Kampman will finish with more sacks than Allen this year.
yeah he started pretty slow... 13.5 sacks in his first five seasons isn't very good. For comparison, in the same timespan Allen racked up 43 sacks. Kampman has been better lately, so again, they tie.

As far as Kampman getting more sacks, I'd say that's very well possible. He'll be going up against the Bears' line twice (not their strong point), the Lions' line one more time and the Vikes' right side isn't great either. Plus hes already a sack and a half ahead.
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I know that. But he's pretty much playing the same position, just on a different team. If anything, he has less gap worries with those big boys inside, which allows him to burn the edge more.
Actually other way around.. Because it's less gaps to worry about teams will try to run to the outside. Meaning he can't keep crashing, and will need to read, fight off blocks, and thus contain to stop the run from the outside. Also, as an offensive guy, I would just run the other way taking Allen out of the game completely to frustrate him.
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I felt that way about him throughout most of last year. But now i rank Mario Williams and Justin Tuck ahead of him.
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Actually other way around.. Because it's less gaps to worry about teams will try to run to the outside. Meaning he can't keep crashing, and will need to read, fight off blocks, and thus contain to stop the run from the outside. Also, as an offensive guy, I would just run the other way taking Allen out of the game completely to frustrate him.
Exactly why I won't pick one right now until Allen adjusts to his new team-mates.
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Yeah.

Would you like to see some gametape? Or maybe if I put a star on his helmet, would that change your mind?
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I felt that way about him throughout most of last year. But now i rank Mario Williams and Justin Tuck ahead of him.
Williams you can make an argument for, without a doubt. Might as well put them 1 and 1a.

Tuck I think is well on his way, but there are things about his pass rush ability that have yet to reach the level of both Mario and Kampman.
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Williams you can make an argument for, without a doubt. Might as well put them 1 and 1a.

Tuck I think is well on his way, but there are things about his pass rush ability that have yet to reach the level of both Mario and Kampman.
Tuck's been making a lot of plays since last season. He's not a pure DE like Kampman but I'd rather have him on my line than kampman.
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Williams you can make an argument for, without a doubt. Might as well put them 1 and 1a.

Tuck I think is well on his way, but there are things about his pass rush ability that have yet to reach the level of both Mario and Kampman.
I don't know. Tuck has that uncanny ability inside at UT. His technique can use some refining though, but he's been so good it hasn't mattered yet.
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Justin Tuck, the guy that has started, what, two games in his career?
Well yeah, but look at his stats while not techically "starting". And see what he did in his two games. Granted things can change but 9 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 pass defended and 1 int for a TD is a damn good initial follow up to his stats for not starting. And this is only the beggining..
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