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Old 10-15-2010, 12:36 AM    (permalink
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Are you referring to COD or Reach? I never really thought of camping as a problem in the Halo series, but it can get really bad in COD, especially in Hardcore w/ UMP's.
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I'm referring to COD. People usually complain about it in TDM or FFA, but i never play those game modes, so i guess that's why i don't see it as much. Playing objective games really makes the campers obsolete.
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The COD multiplayer is so frustrating because the Xbox community loves to use the easiest or cheapest tactic and spam the **** out of it.
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The only thing that is very irritating is the OMA/Danger Close spam tubing. I can usually deal with everything else.
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I made an OMA class just for those kids, rarely do you run into anyone who can out tube you. I really feel they noobiness has dropped in COD, the only thing now are people with modded controllers, but they usually suck as well.
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I made an OMA class just for those kids, rarely do you run into anyone who can out tube you. I really feel they noobiness has dropped in COD, the only thing now are people with modded controllers, but they usually suck as well.
My theory was a lot of the noob tubers migrated when Reach came out.
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Yeah, i have a OMA tubing class also, only bring it out when there's OMA tubers on the other team. Even the modded controllers aren't that big of an issue to me. The only time it really helps is when you're in CQC with a FAL. If you make a FAL automatic from medium to long range, you'll have crazy recoil and you'll miss your target pretty bad.
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Are you referring to COD or Reach? I never really thought of camping as a problem in the Halo series, but it can get really bad in COD, especially in Hardcore w/ UMP's.
sitting in the top of the tower with hologram. waiting for people to try to assassinate hologram, then assassinating them is the win.
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I didn't say it was hard. I said it was fun. The NPCs are actually helpful, but not because of their shooting. Most of the time they hide behind cover and don't shoot anything. Play the generator defense mission on Legendary and you'll find yourself racking up every kill. The reason they're helpful is because they draw attention allowing me to sneak up behind Elites for assassinations, grenades or gunfire.



Solo on Legendary isn't that hard. You just need to use cover and take out enemies one by one. That, and avoid Hunters at all costs. Anytime there are Hunters I just proceed with the mission and run by them. It takes like 7487458 DMR shots in the orange back to kill one. Even if you have a power weapon they're a pain in the ***.




Meh...that's what I dislike about Halo campaign. Playing it on Normal was boring because I could play like an idiot and still survive. What makes Halo campaigns so good is that the enemy AI is smart, dynamic and adaptive on harder difficulties. If I pull out a laser/sniper the enemies will hide, but if I try to rush in too close they come full throttle and engage in close combat. They flank you too. I'd love to see Bungie make a survival horror game because it would be terrifying.

COD campaign is more frustrating than fun. I didn't find it to be a matter of strategy or even skill. You basically just camp in one area, memorize where the enemies are and pick them off before they get the chance. I know that's realistic but it's not fun.
Oh, I completely agree; I was just talking about multiplayer. ;)

Running around like a madman gets you killed pretty quickly in campaign. It works for me in multiplayer, though, because I'm better with a BR/DMR than the majority of people. Now that I've gotten the feel for the DMR, I love it. When I played with the BR in Halo 3, it wasn't even fair.

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People who complain about camping and the game being unbalanced in multiplayer are just the people that aren't any good at it.
This is so untrue. I happen to be pretty damn good at COD and I have a blast playing it but I'm not going to sit here and defend it that camping/spamming noob tubes isnt a huuuuuuge part of multi player.
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My theory was a lot of the noob tubers migrated when Reach came out.
Very true. On Reach there are a boatload of grenade spammers and Active Camo + Sword/Shotgun campers. I'm guessing most of them are COD immigrants, especially the nade spammers.

Can't wait for Black Ops, even though I'll never play it. The week that Black Ops comes out will be the best week for Halo.

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sitting in the top of the tower with hologram. waiting for people to try to assassinate hologram, then assassinating them is the win.
Awesome. Which tower?

I stopped biting on holograms by the 2nd day. The first day was painful though.

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Oh, I completely agree; I was just talking about multiplayer. ;)

Running around like a madman gets you killed pretty quickly in campaign. It works for me in multiplayer, though, because I'm better with a BR/DMR than the majority of people. Now that I've gotten the feel for the DMR, I love it. When I played with the BR in Halo 3, it wasn't even fair.
OK yeah I completely agree. As long as you avoid nuclear warheads aka grenades then it's run and gun all you want.
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Yeah reach has to turn down the damage done by grenades. Not as bad as the noob tube but still annoying by halo standards. Active camo is hilarious, one the radar being jammed always lets me know ones around and two its hilarious because I see them all the time trying to crouch around and half the time I can come up behind them and back smack. The only annoying aspect of cameo are the ones who use it with sniper. That trick works so well.

Also its bs the bungie is releasing a map pack this soon for ten bucks. I know its to lure kids away from black ops, but its obvious the had these maps at luanch and chose not to release them for an extra ten bucks.
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Very true. On Reach there are a boatload of grenade spammers and Active Camo + Sword/Shotgun campers. I'm guessing most of them are COD immigrants, especially the nade spammers.
I didn't play Halo 3 much on live, but I did Halo 2. I remember there being **** tons of grenade spamming in Halo 2, and the little I did play of Halo 3 it was still frequent, so I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that.

You have to die in COD to get more grenades, but in Halo you can just pick them up. Halo has just as much grenade spamming, if not more.
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Grenade spamming in this Halo is AWFUL. Part of the game, though, and I'm getting used to it and better at using my grenades more effectively.

Completely agree with you on the map packs too, Jvig. Such ********. The maps they included for the release are ok (I ******* hate the Cage and the other one like it, though), but there's only like four of them for Team Slayer and Arena and they get hella boring after, like, five games.
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Grenades in Halo and Noob tubing in COD arent even close, and all you need is scavenger to pick up more grenades for the tube.

And agreed YFS, the maps arent all that great, my favorites are all remakes like blood gulch and ivory tower etc... They really should of just shipped with these new maps. However, I'm happier with these maps then I was with the halo 3 maps. Bleeeh
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Grenades in Halo and Noob tubing in COD arent even close, and all you need is scavenger to pick up more grenades for the tube.

And agreed YFS, the maps arent all that great, my favorites are all remakes like blood gulch and ivory tower etc... They really should of just shipped with these new maps. However, I'm happier with these maps then I was with the halo 3 maps. Bleeeh
Oh, I didn't know about the scavenger perk. I don't play MW2. I wasn't talking about noob tubing though.
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Oh, I didn't know about the scavenger perk. I don't play MW2. I wasn't talking about noob tubing though.
Yeah scavenger lets you pick up grenades as well. So no it's still different from halo but you have the option if you want to. Grenades arent the same for both games tho your right. I just refer to noob tube as it is an uneven approach to the game much like the grenades are currently in reach.
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If you wanna reload your accessories with scavenger, you sacrifice other very important perks, so it's not like you have a huge advantage over your opponents.
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Everytime Ive gotten a nuke it's been with scavenger. Not saying it's better but it certainly can be just as important.
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If you wanna reload your accessories with scavenger, you sacrifice other very important perks, so it's not like you have a huge advantage over your opponents.
Eh, of all the Slot 1 Perks, Scavenger is probably the best one. Sleight of Hand and Marathon are both good, but pale in comparison to unlimited ammo, stun grenades, and grenades/claymores.

Bling is useless and OMA is too unless you're a tube spammer.
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Eh, of all the Slot 1 Perks, Scavenger is probably the best one. Sleight of Hand and Marathon are both good, but pale in comparison to unlimited ammo, stun grenades, and grenades/claymores.

Bling is useless and OMA is too unless you're a tube spammer.

I like bling personally. I like using the grip and I need a some kind of sight (preferably red dot) or else I suck.
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